jaiganes,
:clap:
pidinga one more title that is due to you : "Hub's imagery specialist" :-)
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jaiganes,
:clap:
pidinga one more title that is due to you : "Hub's imagery specialist" :-)
danq uvar aanar.Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
Wow Jai! I am dumbfounded :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by jaiganes
Santhana Kaatre , Lovely pick, Kaatele metekkera maatiri oru sugamaana paadal. I like the tananaa... joining in the charanams!!
jai, aakasadhindhA jAri is from jenma jenmada anunbandha
I watched Jaya TV's "Thirumbi Parkiren" program yesterday, the guest was Deepan Chakaravarthi. Is he the son of "Thiruchi Loganathan" ? :shock: On the show DC was taking about his song "பூஜைக்காக வாழும் பூவை சூறையாடல் முறையோ " . During the shoot for this song SPB was appearently in Singapore on some trip, and couldn't make it on time for recording it, so IR asked DC to do the "Track singing" for this song. Once this has been completed SPB returned back from Singapore to record this song as per IR's request! Once SPB heard the version song by DC, he appearently said " ivar paattu nalla thaane iruku, ithaiye padathila podunga".
DC was overwhelmed by the "Humility" of his annan SPB, he had tears in his eyes when he said this on the show. This song fetched him the national award! :clap:
But I still thing "Sangeetha jathi mulai" deserved the NA more than any songs in the film :(
Param, I'm not sure it was NA...probably Tamilnadu State Award :roll:
Sorry App anna, It was TN State award not NA :oops:Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
#90 கூவுங்கள் சேவல்களே
(தனிகாட்டு ராஜா, 1982 )
The weakest area of SPB-IR combo, IMHO.
majestic muzhakkams. Where TMS with either MSV or KVM simply ruled during MGR days.
Both our men try hard (IR with his trumpets and other wind instruments along with strings and percussion work, SPB with high-pitched energy) but it didn't make the impact on me like, say, 'adhO andhappaRavai pOla' :wink: Not even the impact of 'podhuvAka emmanasu thangam' by IR/MV combo. And, as usual, my taste sync-ed with the taste of 80's TN-ers and this song didn't make it that big. Had some air-time, loud speaker time etc but not to the proportions of how a Rajini-SPB-IR song should have reached.
Well, if placed in a right setting, this may have made its impact. (For e.g. prior to 2011 TN elections, I happened to watch a program on Jaya TV where there was interaction with public / news clippings etc showing people's anger against the rulers, suddenly there jumped in a SPB song with unmistakable IR orch - so fitting to the situation and had me in pullarips - but it started in the middle of the saraNam and so took me a couple of seconds to figure out that it was a song dissed by me at the time of its arrival :lol: Gandhi dEsamE - a similar SPB-IR muzhakkam that failed to strike a chord in me when it came but worked big time with the reality visuals on Jaya TV).
Who knows, when placed in an appropriate setting, 'koovungaL sEvalkaLE' may hit me like 'adhO andhappaRavai pOla ' :roll:
koovungaL sEvalgaLE could have been apt in the 1989 elections for ADMK(JJ)
App anna
All your posting makes me see "Thanikaattu Raja" again (last time I saw this was ,almost 10 years ago). Is this the one with Chiranjeevi in a "guest" role ?? ( I am not talking about Mappilai) :roll:
No, that would be Ranuva Veeran. MSV music.
Oh I thought so, BTW Thanikaatu Raja had Rajni in a double role right? or was it Kupathu raja :roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by groucho070
Double role could be 'pOkkiri rAjA' (one as pOkkiri with Radhika and another as rAjA with Sridevi), again MSV music.
This had one Rajini, one Sripriya, one Jaishankar & one Sridevi as Jaishankar's wife...
Oh too many "Raja" , hence the confusion :oops:Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
#91 நான் தான் டாப்பு
(தனிகாட்டு ராஜா, 1982 , ஜானகியுடன்)
Comical attempt with usage of terms related to older Rajinikanth movies (murattukkALai, thillu-mullu, parattai etc). As mentioned in the 'pookkaL sindhungaL' post, recycle of the tune. Singers singing in 'pOgira pOkkil pAdeettu pOkalAm' mode. rAsA doing template style orchestration to fill the disk space...
Still the song featured big stars and had airtime / kOlAmbi time etc and one couldn't escape being subjected to this song those days from some source or other.
So, it has to get a mention in this listing. Otherwise, I'm not so thrilled to write about this :-)
(thiraippAdal link is wrong, as mentioned before, it goes to nAn thAndA ippO dEvadAss and no link for that song, so the above link should lead to youtube)
Whatever contept one has for nAn thAn tAppu kind of numbers, it's amazing to see this kind of variety in this album :
santhanakkARRE - one of the best ever love duets
rAsAvE onna nAn - what a mysterious longing number, no SPB here
koovungaL sEvalkaLe - muzhakkam
nAn thAndA ippO dEVAdAs - drunk
nAn thAn tAppu - chummA
mullai arumbE - sweet duet :-), no SPB here
அப்போ பழசிராஜா-வில் யாரு? அதுவும் ராஜா தானே?Quote:
Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN
adhula rajini illayE
Kupathu Raja
Pokkiri Raja
Thanikattu Raja
All came within a short period - all 3 were rajini movies hence the natural confusion esp bet KR and PR because both had MSV (I think)
Later Rajini added Rajadhi Raja to his resume
Yes, that is the reasonQuote:
Originally Posted by Plum
Yes it was MSVQuote:
Originally Posted by Plum
#92 பூவில் வண்டு கூடும்
(காதல் ஓவியம், 1982 )
We've now arrived at a historic IR album. Since this has a number of SPB songs, we can relish them for a number of days. One at a time. And none left out as each one is a rare gem!
I recalled when kAdhal Oviyam happened - in 2nd sem of my college days. (Edited the post as I remembered that 1st year got completed only in 1982 Dec). Also, I very clearly remember the cover picture of the echo record of this movie. mottai IR giving guitar lesson to BR :lol: The echo phenomenon started around the payaNangal mudivathillai time frame and by this time it was a single window for all new releases of IR. Unlike earlier, now there was no issues for IR to have LP records and deliver all songs in one disk.
BR was just recovering from tik-tik-tik which followed a highly successful alaigaL Oyvathillai. Radha was paired with a newcomer Kannan who had to do the role of a blind person in his debut movie - poor guy, he didn't get much opportunities after that. There was this legend that sankarAbharaNam was first planned with BR and later K Viswanath was commissioned for the project. (My cousin always used to joke that had it been BR, the focus would have been the love story of Rajalakshmi and Somayajulu story possibly placed in the backburner :lol:)
In any case, lot of IR-lovers wanted IR to do some project of that nature, win NA and accolades etc showered upon him-knowing that he was completely equipped for that. So, when this movie was projected to be based on a classical singer with SPB in the game, the expectations went up. Though there was this apprehension that Radha could never do a Manju Bhargavi in dance, the boys opined - well, she is beautiful and any kai-kAl-asaivu could be tolerated as decent dance :lol: (Well, the end result was as expected - more of running around with kai-kAl-asaivu than dance).
BR did a total sodhappal and so was the hapless hero and the movie became a terrible flop. IR talks about it in varalARRu suvadukaL with some sense of humor:
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Originally Posted by Maestro
Wonderful write-up with lot of insights App! :clap: SPB at his best. Remember watching the film after our friends told me that the movie was horrible, just for Ilaiyaraaja and songs you can watch. Really loved all the anecdotes of IR especially about Guruvayoor trip and about BR's next venture 'Vaalibame Vaa Vaa' :lol:
poovil vaNdu youtube :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZYYOvy8mWI
pAvam Radha :lol2:
#93 வெள்ளிச் சலங்கைகள் கொண்ட கலைமகள்
(காதல் ஓவியம், 1982 , குழுவினருடன்)
What a sweet dance number with correct proportion of all the classical instruments and SPB! How one man's mind could combine all such ideas and come out with compositions like so many of these in one evening is simply a proof that miracles do happen :-) OK, now if one doesn't buy the claim that all these happened so quickly in an evening, even to compose the songs of K-O in a whole lifetime is a miracle, IMHO!
As I corrected in my last post, this happened during 2nd sem of college days when we moved out of the "1st year hostel Agate" to Coral, now only 3 in a room compared to the 4 prior. Same MSV-argument-party as one and another neutral guy (who is now a faculty in an IIT) made life a lot more colorful. Unlike the 1st sem when there was this continuous fear of ragging, suddenly a lot of freedom. Also, moving to the upper floor (1st in Indian terms, 2nd in American terms) made this wonderful "parapet wall" available in the corridor to sit and chat for hours! Sometimes most boys of the whole wing will be on the corridor and when the discussions were about movies / music, it was simply a riot - there was this Sivaji fan who'll dance (actually act) like MGR, singing MGR songs :lol:
Fortunately for us, there were no HC KH or HC RK fans (there were some MGR-Sivaji fans but they mostly were defensive only), the discussion often steered towards songs / music (i.e. when actresses weren't the focus :wink:)!
K-O was one of the much discussed topics, thanks to our HCIRF from Thanjavur who'll bring his "recorded cassettes" each week after his weekend trip home and was very soon influencing the music listening tastes of many wingmates! No wonder IR was getting hero-like-proportions in attention by boys. (BTW, till the prior batch, it was a boys-only-residential-institution with first girl student getting admitted in our batch...still, the total # of girls in our year was single digit only and were either day scholars or staying in staff quarters...in our junior batches, they became a huge % and majority dayscholars & also got a separate hostel for them).
Well, veLLichchalangaikaL was / is always a SPB special where the singer got more attention than the composer among the admirers!
veLLichchalangaikaL youtube :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSrKrCoWtSA&feature=related
another 'aiyyO pAvam Radha' :lol:
Another wonderful write-up!
:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
Very nice to read your nostalgic college chats. Yes those corridor and parapet wall chats for hours together are always memorable!
Wonderful writeup App for the two KO songs. Thanks for sharing the info from Varalaatru Suvadugal, a really interesting read. IR has a great sense of humor.
RAGAM CHANDRAKAUNS.
that's the deiveega smile, you wanna enjoy..:swinghead: while treat your soul with the divine music.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajoPa97XpIo
oh ..yeah , பாலா, உங்களுக்கு மட்டும்தான் dramatic ஆ டெலிவர் பண்ண தெரியுமா?
எங்க ஜானும்மா கேளுங்கோ ..She will put you , S .P .பாலா the greatest singer in trance :clap:
Raaja has given another female solo for Janu in AZHAGU MALARAADA....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbj8QjoU_6s
where are those பத்மா awards for our (இளையராஜா & பாலா)'s girl ?
Kandena Govindana......chandrakauns...Purandharadasar.
http://www.musicindiaonline.com/list...-Chandrakauns/
first track by BOMBAY JAYASHREE
idhai paththiyum nadu nadula sollungO! Who were the kanavu kannis progressively from your school times etc. indha threadla koochamA irundhA veRa threadla vechukkalAm ;-)Quote:
the discussion often steered towards songs / music (i.e. when actresses weren't the focus
VS , movie was not horrible! It was a good movie, any one who have fallen in love as in "தெய்வீக காதல் " would love this film along with Alaigal oivathillai.Quote:
Originally Posted by V_S
yEn intha Kolai veri :x , She was a good dancer :)Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
#94 அம்மா அழகே
(காதல் ஓவியம், 1982 )
Relatively short song, SPB solo, sung very emotionally. The supporting orchestration creates the "serious context" to the song -possibly depicting a scene showing trouble / difficulty of the lead character. I think it was around this time that IR had adopted this style of combining the bhaktippAdal-style sounds with regular light music songs for effect creation - sometimes in temple setting and on occasions even otherwise. This song could have been in temple setting as the blind singer was always seen around kOvil prakArams but vaigaraiyil vaigai karaiyil was in a recording theater setting, longing for a lover, with very similar orchestration as rAga dheepam ERRum nEram.
In sum total, when a movie character was in distress, IR started using this kind of orchestration (and possibly similar rAgams) to create a specific effect on the audience. There could have been similar attempts during the pre-IR era (especially by the light music kings) and IR got inspired from them or it was another trick he tried on his own...more like the former as I get reminded of the 'solladee abirAmee' song of TMS whenever I hear these numbers (rAga deepam, vaigaraiyil, ammA azhagE, sangeetha jAthi mullai)
அம்மா அழகே பாடல் எனக்கு மிகவும் பிடித்த ஒன்று SPB sir மிகவும் அனுபவித்து பல இடங்களில் நம் மனதை கலங்கடிப்பார்
#95 குயிலே, குயிலே எந்தன் கீதங்கள் கேட்காதோ
(காதல் ஓவியம், 1982 , ஜானகியுடன்)
Another emotionally charged number, this time SPB is supported by SJ to pizhinjify people's hearts. Add IR brand shenoy (which takes all kinds of avatars in his music, typically on folk themmAngus) and you have a song that can throw people into depression. The way in which this pair concludes the saraNam is simply goosepimple stuff!
Actually, the whole K-O album, if listened to continuously can throw people into real emotional low (regardless of whether that person is suffering from any kind of negatives in real life or not - luvvu or otherwise). For e.g., at the moment I don't have anything specific to feel this low that I'm thrown into after ammA azhagE and kuyilE kuyilE. Not any grave personal thing I'm going thru but still I feel depressed :-( Power of music!
Though this album has a couple of numbers that can be called "happy" (poovil vaNdu & nathiyil Adum poovanam) and two "neutral" (nAtham en jeevanE & veLLichchalangaikaL), one gets into gloom because even in those songs the singer's pathetic plight (blindness) comes to mind and one cannot really get into a happy mood. I think the fate of this film got decided the day BR thought of making a movie on the lead character without sight :-(
Sure, there are tons of brilliant real-life musicians who are blind but somehow those movies that have them as main char didn't seem to click in TN. (rAja pArvai, K-O, kAsi...such gloom doesn't seem to work well...BTW, thangappadhumai does not belong to this category; is there any big success story?)
wov great app. Kadhal Oviyam is one of finest album ever created in world film history.
Somehow I link Kuyile Kuyile song to Bombay's Uyire Uyrie song. Don't know why
Great write-ups App for such a power packed compositions and singing! This is again one soundtrack every aspiring singer wanted to sing and get somewhat close to what SPB has achieved. But SPB is too high to reach him. But just the feel we get when we sing these beautiful songs itself is enough to satisfy our apetite.
:lol: Again great timing! Super analysis on how all movies of this kind figured at box-office :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
There's no question Radha was a good actress and a decent dancer as well. And, was quite beautiful!Quote:
Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN
However, classical dance was not her strong area IMO and neither BR was a connoisseur in that area. Accordingly the end-product makes one feel sorry for both Radha and BR. (BTW, I don't think BR was a connoisseur in the classical music domain too but he was fortunate to have IR / SPB at their peak).
BTW, Plum, you had a question about 'kanavukkanni' :lol: which warrants some details...
I don't remember having any fascination for actresses during school years (due to the brought-up / village circumstances / not watching movies from 7th to +2 etc...I've even thought at times that MGR movies should not have those heroines at all and all those asingams). If anything, even after growing up a bit, I found the "seen-every-day-in-3D" much prettier than those ammaNees on posters.
After entering the college, in a new environment - going to movies with friends etc, I found the likes of Sridevi to be pretty (moonRAm piRai effect at that time).
Which was what I told - to a ruffian senior who was ragging me one day. (After washing their clothes for one hour+, it was typical for those fellows to have some more entertainment...typically done collecting a few wingmates and all of them poking fun at the freshie, asking questions of maRRa nature including this standard "who is your fav actress" question).
What followed my answer was such a roaring laughter by that gang which then had more probing questions (not printable here) for about 30-60 minutes and a lot of brainwashing in extreme language, thoroughly smashing away any respect a 16 yr old could have had for matinee idols on that domain.
appuRam enga irundhu kanavukkanni business ellAm varum? pOyE pOyAch!
Still, over a period of years, some actresses whose presence made the movies - strictly movies - more likeable were : Savithri, Padmini, Sridevi, Radha, Revathy, Gautami & many others (actually it's a very broad band with me having no vanjakam) :lol:
I have seen this movie in theater during the one week it was there. I was too young to understand the story line. But when I rediscovered this album in my later teen tears, I always thought it was a good movie did not work well with masses like Rajaparvai. Such nice songs with good lyrics... it is hard to imagine the movie was "sodhappal"... Well, IR does have many movies to his credit in this category: Ninaivellam Nithya comes to mind immediately. BR must have at least narrated the story well to IR and Lyricist... they did a fantastic job. IMO, this is the best album in all BR movies... Mudhal Mariyadhai comes very close though.Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
Kathal Oviyam album is a different movie altogether. Watched the movie, and it is instantly forgettable. It's like You forgot what you ate but the aroma tingling in your nostril and the smell on your finger is something else altogether. Listen to it, you and you see a different movie altogether. Listen to the entire album and you see your very own love story you concocted with accordance to your own sentiment. No Bharathiraja, No Radha, no Cyclops. It's make it up as you go, as you traverse through the aural ecstasy.
This is again, one of those movies where you want to file a police report against the filmmakers for total desecration on the work of art.
Thanks app. Wonderful writing as usual.
App anna
What you said about this "sad" , "depressed" feel for K.O songs are spot on! Such is the power of IR +SPB ! Like you said, even if you are in "jolly" mood, these songs can make you feel sad without any reasons! I am highly addicted to this "Depressed" mood created by these songs!