IR's composing technique

Thanks ananth for those nice observations & also the link...
(pls also note I'm a gnAna soonyam when you talk about scales & major minor etc...)

Vijayr,


"My preference is for the 2 songs, but enge en jeevane isnt cheap or bad. "

So can I infer that your opinion

"saradha, apart from 2 songs all others in Uyarndha uLLam belong to the category of the above song"

is not valid any more?

venus, I revised what I said first looooong time back. I am glad that finally the (tube)light in you burned :-)

Thanks Vijayr.

I am glad that super intelligent like you could respond to me. I am blessed.

Just Because you called me tubelight I am not going to be tubelight, I know my capabilites, I never assess myself by other's scale. But I do assess others by how they address others and also what they preach and what they do.

I am laughing at the irony of life, here you cannot even tolerate to your coDfers questions and you refer the co-DFers as tubelight or judging them as "has comprehension problem" and in the other thread you are complaining "IR is Arrogant / has attitude etc.," towards his co-workers. Good joke. I wish you see yourself in the mirror before calling anybody anything.

In none of your posts , you had mentioned that you have stood corrected. You were just evading by not answering to the point after a posting a sweeping statement without even caring to go into the details (before posting)of the songs in the movie.

Now I could see clearly see how could you arrive those magic 10%, 20% numbers for IR songs.

Interesting!!!!

If you go in detail you may need to "Revise" them.

Venus, Oh so you are still bitter over that 10%, 20% thing, thats funny. Get over it. I did produce facts and figures when it mattered. Not in THIS particular discussion. The fact that I revised my first statement is very clear in my second one. Even AFTER I mentioned that enge en jeevane is a decent song you still asked me as to why I included it in the cheap songs category. And then you misread me as saying that vandhaaL mahalakshmiye and kaalai thendral were cheap songs and were giving unnecessary explanations as to how they were good, when everyone else understood what I was saying. When I pointed it out you chose to "evade" it.

Now who is having comprehension problems?

As for me not including enge en jeevane, no big deal. We are not compiling any accurate stats or figures here. If we have such a discussion then I'll bother to back every post of mine with stats. Now,Isnt it very obvious that I revised my first statement? To everyone else it is , not for you probably(until it is explicitly stated in high caps I presume). You have serious issues.

Here is a tabla based mindblowing number by IR:

Indha mAn undhan sondha mAn
pakkam vandhudhAn sindhu pAdum

interspersed with lilting strings (?) between words and then the scintillating

sindhaikkuL Adum deepamE kaNmaNiyE
sandhikka vEndum deviyE ennuyirE

Then follows super interludes that are entirely in line with the mood of the number. Salute!

I don't care if this number could have been enhanced if some trained singer had rendered in place of IR. As it is, the song is a life giving melody.

Vijayr,

You are assuming that I am bitter about your 10%, 20% numbers. Yes you have mentioned the right emotion "It is Funny".

Is there any proof that I am bitter about your numbers. Never in my previous posting or in the current posting, had I mentioned my liking or disliking for you 10% 20% numbers. My bitterness is immaterial here. I drew parallels between your claims (and later come and revise it) and you have inferred that I am bitter about your opinion by assuming something.

Obviously you have comprehension problem here.

Like this I can come up with your problems or issues. It is not going to resolve. So let us move on.

Still if you need to narrow down who has probelms or issues, let us take it offline.

Thanks.

"Is there any proof that I am bitter about your number"

the fact that you brought it up after 2 months in an irrelevant discussion is proof enough. Obviously you are harboring some grudge from some past discussions and trying to harp on an insignificant point when the person who posed the question initially(app_engine) itself didnt bother to continue with it and seemed satisfied with my reply. You werent involved in anything here and tried to jump in the middle after wrongly assuming that I was criticizing all the good songs in the album. To me, thats proof enough.

Vijayr,

I visit this site from '97. I was never involved in the personal attacks or character assasination (either on a fellow DFer or any other artists) to have any grudge on you or for that matter on anybody here. If I need to tell, I will do it right away.

Involvement has to start somewhere. It is a thread of discussion and nobody has any ownership, anybody can ask for clarification and keep going. And I see you do that all the time (jumping in).

I do not want to disturb a person living in the world of assumptions. Good luck to your assumptions (of course when you do it , you call it a proof, nice try) and the subsequent judgements based on them.

Bye.

Venus, I have been here for over 8 years too and I can discern between a genuine question and a potential flame-baiter.Even after I had clarified myself to the poster concerned earlier, you kept pretending as if you didnt understand what I said.And then you mentioned something about me "evading" you(which was funny) and quoted some of my posts from other threads. It doesnt take a whole lot to put two and two together. I dont stand corrected. My choice is those 2 songs from uyarndha uLLam and even though enge en jeevane might not be cheap or vulgar(which I clarified) it does belong to the enna veNum thinnungada doi category for its mediocrity. Thats what I meant earlier and there is no correction or revision to that. And secondly, I just noticed that saradha hasnt mentioned anything about cheapness or vulgarity as far as enna venum song is concerned. It was just your interpretation. He just mentioned that it was a bad song which didnt fit the situation, period.