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8th August 2006, 04:08 PM
Sudhaama

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Originally Posted by Nichiro

Dear Sudhaama Sir,

My posting which you feel has offended you has appeared in another vedic astrology group . I just posted the same here.
I see that it has been removed.
Actually it was in response to a debate in that group.

If it is offensive to you then sorry.
I cannot undo what has already appeared before.

I wanted your opinion on charts posted by me.
What you have posted about Guru is totally unacceptable by me.

Guru is a parasite for any house.

Unless my posting is re instated, I will not participate further.

Tatvam-Asi

Dear Mr. Nichiro,

No Posting of yours have been removed so far, as alleged.. So the Question of Re- instatement does not arise.

In the contemporary Society, you and I know... there are some communal-fanatics, purposively dragging the caste-factor in any and every subject...just to show their hatred towards a section of the Society. So they concoct the meanings of even the Vedas and twist to their own convenience just to carry on a vicious-propoganda and thrust their personal venomous thoughts on others. Should we support their narrow-minded outlook?

We, including you and I are broad-minded and Large-hearted enough to look and perceive the True colours and Rich values of our Heritage... one of which is the IMMACULATE ASTROLOGY. Is it Not?

Simply because somebody else has stated his own self-centred inferences and Wrong Notions, we need not copy nor follow them. We must accept what we are convinced as genuine. Is it Not.?

So I reiterate my request. Please Delete the Caste-related wordings in your earlier posting.

Guru in 9th and 7th are quite far different and in fact beneficial in contrast to its Negative-effect by location in other houses.. as I have learnt from Books, Experts as well as by practical observation too.

If you differ with me on that point...well, it interests me to know that other side Please detail your views. Then I will put forth mine in detail.

This factor, I had to raise up now, initially... in connection with your earlier statements.. generalising for all houses... where I differ. On completion of our discussions on this factor, I want to take up the cases you have quoted... and put forth my reply later.

Unless we both are clear on this main factor of "Overall-Parasite in any and every house" ... we will not be able to proceed further, especially on the cases you have asked for my comment.

So let us complete your first point now....Guru in 9th and 7th too is a PARASITE?.

I say No....But I am anxious to hear your repudiatory points. Please put forth.
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8th August 2006, 06:16 PM
selvakumar

Quote:

Guru in 9th and 7th are quite far different and in fact beneficial in contrast to its Negative-effect by location in other houses.. as I have learnt from Books, Experts as well as by practical observation too.

Sudhamma,
I have seen GURU in the 7th house in Rajinikanth's horoscope. Lagna is Leo.
Guru - 5th house and 8th house lord.
I think we know very well about how RK's marriage life was :D
Yes.. Practically I havenot seen much negative effect for people who have GURU in the 7th house and 9th house.

But if we have to look as per the rules, I think NIchiro too has a point. I think it depends on lot of factors as you mentioned.
8th August 2006, 10:15 PM
Sudhaama

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Originally Posted by Rohit

Dear Nichiro, Selvakumar and Sudhaama,

Incidentally I read some of your posts and I simply couldn't resist expressing my views, which I hoped you would be well prepared to handle, but obviously it clashed with your convictions due to mutual incompatibility of our views. I do apologise if my posts have, in anyway, distracted you from your convictions. Please resume your discussion. :)

Very Many Thanks Mr Rohit.

I know you are a Gentleman of high Intellect. Because I have read with much interest... your several postings under various Threads here.

That is why I am giving you the due regards..

Your Question ... whether Astrology is qualified to be named as a Segment of Science or Not... is Quite a Valid and Wise one.

And our intention was not to discourage you. But only to let you know that we have already progressed far ahead of such an Elementary stage and Fundamental factor, which we have already dealt with long back at the initial stage under this Thread itself..

...and it will not be proper to reopen and revert back to that Alphabetical stage ...

... INTERRUPTING in between the Advanced-stage Topic discussions.. by all others

Nothing beyond. Sorry to disappoint you.
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9th August 2006, 01:53 AM
Rohit

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Originally Posted by Sudhaama

Sorry to disappoint you.

Dear Sudhaama, you have not only disappointed me by not being able to respond to my posts well, but you have also shown how you have passed-over all the 'broad-minded' and 'large-hearted' outlooks you have been trying to project all these times. While passing the following 'broad-minded' and 'large-hearted' remarks, strangely, you altogether forgot to mention the names of people you were actually referring to in your following unqualified and opinionated remarks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sudhaama

We, including you and I are broad-minded and Large-hearted enough to look and perceive the True colours and Rich values of our Heritage... one of which is the IMMACULATE ASTROLOGY. Is it Not?

Simply because somebody else has stated his own self-centred inferences and Wrong Notions, we need not copy nor follow them. We must accept what we are convinced as genuine. Is it Not.?

If you really feel too mortified to identify those whom you badly wanted to refer to in your above remarks, irrespective of whoever they are, and if you really did not mean to be so 'narrow-minded' and 'shrunk-hearted', I would strongly suggest you to withdraw your unqualified and opinionated remarks. Also do the needful to demonstrate some civility that is now already due; and thereafter, if you can, please refrain from making such egocentric and irrational remarks on anyone, irrespective of whoever they are, simply because you feel empty of the specific answers. Thank you! :)
9th August 2006, 03:32 AM
Sudhaama

[quote="Rohit"]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sudhaama

..... While passing the following 'broad-minded' and 'large-hearted' remarks, strangely, you altogether forgot to mention the names of people you were actually referring to in your following unqualified and opinionated remarks.//

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sudhaama

We, including you and I are broad-minded and Large-hearted enough to look and perceive the True colours and Rich values of our Heritage... one of which is the IMMACULATE ASTROLOGY. Is it Not?

Simply because somebody else has stated his own self-centred inferences and Wrong Notions, we need not copy nor follow them. We must accept what we are convinced as genuine. Is it Not.?

If you really feel too mortified to identify those whom you badly wanted to refer to in your above remarks, irrespective of whoever they are, and if you really did not mean to be so 'narrow-minded' and 'shrunk-hearted', I would strongly suggest you to withdraw your unqualified and opinionated remarks. Also do the needful to demonstrate some civility that is now already due; and thereafter, if you can, please refrain from making such egocentric and irrational remarks on anyone, irrespective of whoever they are, simply because you feel empty of the specific answers. Thank you! :)

Dear Mr Rohit,

All these have NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU...but in response to Mr Nichiro's last posting mentioning about the planet Guru linking with a Narrow-minded Communal factor... which I do not relish... as much as any healthy hearted person.

With a Friendly-spirit of reciprocation after noting your high-spirited wind-up, I responded to your Gentlemanly gesture of apology...

...I too expressed Sorry... To END UP the matter. I could have kept silent

But... Why I expressed my RECIPROCAL-SPIRIT of Gentlemanly thoughts? Please think over.

Have I not appreciated you for your HIGH CALIBRE GESTURE and remarkable INTELLECT?.

Whereas in spite of my AFFECTIONATE WORDS... I am surprised to note Your SHOCKING BLOWS on me.l

Dear Friend, I am not such a Cheap person to make Sarcastic remarks aiming at someone indirectly.. I hate such a sickly approach.

Rather I am very careful in NOT HURTING ANYBODY.. by any means.

So please please and please DON'T ASSUME AND FEEL HURT. I will not at all be happy to see others hurt because of me...

I never Intend Nor mean such Sickly thoughts.. Never.

..Especially with you...A NICE GENTLEMAN..!!!
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9th August 2006, 04:53 PM
Nichiro

Dear Sri Sudhaama ,

I had written (four years back) the article on Guru during my research on Rahu) the comments about which you have raised objections.
What have I written??

"So the old Astrologers belonging to Brihaspati's kula (Brahmins) made a rule to explain"

can you tell me what is so bad about the above line??
Honestly I fail to understand. I too , am a Brahmin and I do not see anything objectionable in the above line.

Nichiro
9th August 2006, 05:39 PM
selvakumar

:( come on guys ! This thread is going towards some other direction :cry:
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10th August 2006, 09:24 PM
r_kk

Dear Rohit,
Thanks for the refreshing and gently placed counter arguments. As usual we can't get any answer to the logical questions...

I am seeing you after long time. After you and geno nearly left this arena, I had lost the interest to visit this forum. Please come to this forum very often and write logical and rational thoughts.

This highly superstitious thread need lot of alternative posts with more scientific explanation.
10th August 2006, 10:03 PM
Nichiro

Dear Rohit, r-kk etc,

I bow to you people in submission and request you to leave us alone to discuss our irrational and un scientific theories in this thread.
If you want , please open another rationality thread and do your discussions there.

I hope you would heed to my request.

Nichiro
10th August 2006, 11:07 PM
Sudhaama

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nichiro

Dear Rohit, r-kk etc,

I bow to you people in submission and request you to leave us alone to discuss our irrational and un scientific theories in this thread.
If you want , please open another rationality thread and do your discussions there.

I hope you would heed to my request.

Nichiro

Yes... Well-said...

Dear Nichiro,

Sorry.. Due to the Technical-difficulties in our Hub-access... I am unable to post in the speed...and promptnness, I want to reply.

I hope to reply to you tomorrow... if the access improves.

Our Critics have to keep in mind that this is NOT A GENERAL THREAD ON ASTROLOGY ... enabling the Opponents and Critics to raise any General or Fundamental Question on Astrology.

This Thread pertains to only one aspect on Astrology... as specified in the Heading.

While WE HIGHLY BELIEVE ASTROLOGY as a Life- Guidance.. and we are anxious to discuss amongst the like-minded dignitaries..

...I request such of those Friends... Non-believers of this Great Vedic- Science ...

. to be kind enough NOT TO INTERRUPT in the course of our serious discusions.... anymore.

If they are really interested to get the due Answers for their Typical Questions on Astrology... Well, they can very well open any number of New Threads with the Titles of their own choice and raise Questions there ...

... INSTEAD OF UNNECESSARILY INTERFERING IN OUR WAY... whatever be their evaluation on this Unparallel Life-Science....

... May be Astrology a HUMBUG or an UNWORTHY MADNESS as per their perception.

Whatever name others may ascribe.. we are quite Happy with Astrology!

...based on our Open-minded Understanding and PRACTICAL EXPERIENCE.

Let this be OUR LAST REPLY to our Interruptor-Friends.
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