Thirumaraaran and Jana!
yeah, yeah yeah, you are correct!
Get back to the topic or just leave! Thanks to you! :notworthy:
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Thirumaraaran and Jana!
yeah, yeah yeah, you are correct!
Get back to the topic or just leave! Thanks to you! :notworthy:
THirumaran,
As a Sivaji Veriyan and Die-hard kamal fan,I have acknowledged that Kamal is the Best All rounder ,Where as Sivaji is the Chakkaravarthi of Acting.
Isn't it OK with you?
I guess it boils down to what kind of acting you enjoy more.
Vietnam Veedu vs. Andha Naal
Thangappadhakkam vs. Mudhal MAriyaadhai
Rajaraja Chozhan vs. ThEvar Magan
If you want too "see" acting then Sivaji is miles ahead of anyone else, including Kamal. These are the choices on the left.
But IMO it is the choices on the right that underline how his extraordinary talent was woefully underutilized, despite his 300 odd filmography.
good! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by joe
kamal's talent is spread as ocean........
u should also accept that the throne of shivaji is now occupied by kamal at present! :D
aterall kamal is the succesor of shivaji!
do u say shivaji was underutilized in mudhal mariyadhai,thevar mahan?Quote:
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
:lol: :lol: ..
in my opinion those were the two great performances i have saw in the cine screen!....
mudhal mariyadhai...a script made for shivaji...100/100
devar mahan....its the vito corleone of india...an answer to them
Here, I cut and paste what I posted in MGR thread. I have not changed anything and consider only relevant portions for discussion:
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Thirumaran,
You are too emotional; cool off man. You are mixing the forum topic, this topic was originally a MGR thread. You, as a single person, virtually changed it to Sivaji vs Kamal fight. You need to go back to original topic and come out with a convincing list of MGR movies that every member of this forum will like. Please keep in mind that this is a public forum, so every member will jump in and praise or hate your statement. Be prepared to accept it. When you come out with a list of MGR movies, just do not stop with Madurai veeran, Kanchi thalaivan,NM, AP, USV (last three were made by MGR himself); you need to provide more movies and details to convince other forum members.
I like good cinema. I am a sivaji fan. I did not have any difficulty to give this forum a list of movies (16 movies) to show case Nadigar thilagam's versatility and also I added that many more can be given. I could continue that list, but it will be endless. That was Sivaji's power and I also mentioned his limit in doing action roles. As Joe and others highlighted, Sivaji acted in some very successful action movies, egs: Raja, Engal thanga raaja, thirisoolam. I heard Thirisoolam collection was so huge that Government of TN under MGR had to change the rule to collect the tax. That show cases his power and only after a very long time, Bhagyaraj movie (mundhanai mudichi) beat that collection. Even his movie Sandhipoo (dual role, one acted with Sridevi, as you were mentioning above) of Sivaji Productions was a super hit movie and it ran silver jubilee in every major centers.
You need to keep in mind, for Sivaji, there was no body before him to be compared. But, you have got a base line for Kamal, you are comparing Kamal with Sivaji. Kamal is a good actor/director/dancer, but according to my view, the comparison of sivaji vs kamal does not have any merit. Just one point: All Sivaji movies (in 50/60s and partly 70s) were kind of experimentation movies. He succeded in a big way including commercially, and his success rate was so big that was never witnessed before in tamil cinema (Read Randor guy's article in The Hindu, most of his articles still available in Hindu's archives). Some of his movies were way ahead of time, example: Andha Naal, Thooku Thooki, Uthmaa Puthiran, Puthiya Paravai. Kamal experimentation movies lack something. Some of his movies, though quality movies, fail at the BO collection, example: aalavandhan, hey raam, AS, MXpress,Raja Paarvai etc. I like Kamal's good movies, like Devar Magan was great, almost a classic (sivaji and revathy role in the movie made a big difference, that is entirely a different story).
In my last post, I was not asking you to show me an actor who can make VPKattabomman. I was challenging you whether any other actor can beat SIVAJI's PERFORMANCE, not to make the kattabomman again. Let me reiterate my point: Sivaji is UNIQUE in acting, his success cannot be repeated and that is why I said earlier that Sivaji is a genius in his own way. This opinion was concurred by many great actors, like Bollywood's Dilip Kumar and Hollywood's Marlyn Brando. Sivaji's presence was so powerful that he virtually defined what an acting is and people accepted that definition. TN agreed that "nadipirkku illakkanam Sivaji" and no body can come close to that. IMO, Kamal is a good actor; to bring more out of Kamal, he should act under very talented directors. There was always some rumour that Kamal does not go well with most of directors; i dont know how far it is true.
Any way, I want to stop sivaji vs kamal argument. I am expecting some good writing about MGR movies from Thiru (of course, on MGR thread, not here)
I have to go now and have a great and prosperous tamilzhar tirunaal PONGAL.
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a little change....shivaji dint experiment...shivaji is a part of experiment!
the story writers,directors and courageaous producers are experimenters!
but kamal uses his own money,directs himself and writes his own scripts for experiments like hey raam...
he is not just a part!
Kamal is the best for acting
Sivaji is good for dialogue delivering
You did not get what I wrote. It is my opinion that these are Sivaji's best performances and they underline how much he has been underutilized in his long filmography.Quote:
Originally Posted by nilavupriyan
This was a man who was ready with tremendous talent in Andha Naal (1954 itself). IMO that was his best performance. And his next best comes in 1992.
u are right man!