IR's composing technique

Why isn't anybody discussing about "Ottachattiya vachikittu" :?
JG i know you love this song very much as i do ;)

Vijayr,

In ur previous posting you did mentioned that
"you kept pretending as if you didnt understand".
So you infer that I understood your response from the beginning. Then how come did you comment referred me as "tubelight" in your earlier posting.

Either I was pretending or tubelight. I cannot be both. Both of them are your comments on me. Are you contradicting yourself or do I have "comprehension problem" or is an another incident of "revising".

My previous posting is as follows:

"the worst song (I interpret it as "could have been more respectable by picturaization, tune, rendition, lyrics etc." ) overall by greats (not just by IRs tune or beats)"

You put together and preceived that my interpretaion is "Vulgar". Yes. You can put together anything like this according to your outlook or perception. You have all the right to do so.

Venus, it was you who first used the word "cheap" in the context of the song. Saradha didnt mention it anywhere.

"So you infer that I understood your response from the beginning. Then how come did you comment referred me as "tubelight" in your earlier posting. "

Well only from your previous post(when you made comments like "evading" etc.) it became clear that you were trying to play dumb, probably expecting me to make an offical announcement saying I was wrong about enge en jeevane or something to that effect(duh!). Either that, or you were trying to cover up the fact that you completely misread and misunderstood my initial comments on the topic. Your pick :-)

Vijayr,

You were only clear when I wrote something down the line in the discussion. But you have already judged upfront without any basis(what is the reason etc.,).

My pick is as follows,

This shows how you jump into conclusions in haste without knowing the full picture.

You wanted know what evade means,
When I showed that I did not introduce the word "Vulgar" in the context (which you had mentioned in ur previous posting as my interpretation) , then you changed the context into "cheap". Keep trying.

Venus, my judgement is based on the content of your posts, period.

What do you mean by "full picture"? What, do I have to wait for another year to get a fuller picture? Absurd.

"When I showed that I did not introduce the word "Vulgar" in the context (which you had mentioned in ur previous posting as my interpretation) , then you changed the context into "cheap". Keep trying."

I said "cheap or vulgar"(I used "vulgar" synonymously with the word cheap). You did say "cheap" right? How about explaining that? who is evading here?

A better example of evasion would be when you completely misunderstood my very FIRST post in this discussion. You assumed I was criticizing vandhaaL mahalakshmiye, kaalai thendral etc. and were trying to tell me back as to how they werent bad songs. That was really funny. When I pointed it out, you didnt bother to say that you stood corrected. And then you misquoted me as saying that enge en jeevane was cheap, when I clearly said in the previous post that it was a decent song. Again when I brought it up you didnt bother to say that you stood corrected. And you are accusing me of "evading". Laughable irony for sure. Come to think of it, I should have been the first one to accuse you of evading and responding selectively. Nice tries there, to cover up your own misunderstanding.

It is more than an hour past midnight, but I simply cannot let go this number, replaying it now for about a dozen times! It appears in the movie Deiva Vaaku and is sung by none other than the Maestro himself along with a female, probably SJ. It is all the way IR in this lilting number and to me SJ fails to impress. The song starts with a beautiful prelude involving the guitar and flute, with the guitar going
tang da dang dang
tang da dang dang
and the mesmerizing flute creating the mood. God, it is unbelievable music. Then IR goes

VaLLi vaLLI ena vandhAn vadiveElan-dhan
puLLi vaithu puLLi poTTan pudhu kOlam-dhan (tang da dang dang)
solli thara solli kEttu
dhinamum solli thandha sindhu pAdinAn
valli inbavalli endru
dhinamum mullai charam kondu soodinAn

The first interlude is richly decorated with flute and some chorus humming. The second interlude is violin and flute in tandem. The violin especially is haunting here.

Film : Pudhu pudhu arthangal

song : Eduthu naan vidava en paatai
Thozha thozha

Beautiful thalam!!!! Beautiful composition!!!!!

http://users.wireweb.net/green/pianolessons.htm
In the above link, there are some very interesting lessons on bass patterns. Please click lessons #26,#27,#28 and #29.

In the lesson #28, the author introduces the "Walking Bass Pattern". He explains that there are hundreds of patterns like this used in Rock& roll and other style of music.

At the bottom of the page he gives a link to a MIDI file where he has used the pattern in a actual song.

http://users.wireweb.net/green/pianolesson28.htm

I could think of three songs in which IR used similar patterns

1. Rum Bum Bum (Rock and Roll???)
2. Baa Baa
3. Vanam enna (vettri Vizha)

It looks like IR used several of these patterns and created his own patters as well to meet TFM requirements.

I remember the discussions on "Base guitar usage by our MDs" by TFM DF experts like Srikanth, Srinath, Rjay, Swamiji,Sashi, Sridhar and others. Interesting and informative discussions. Missing those discussions.
Thanks.

2. Baa Baa ...what song is this?

Probably `pudhu mAppiLLaikku nalla yOgamada' too can find a place in your list...

app_engine,

Your correct. In my list #2 is Pudhu mappillaikku. Sorry for confuding by not giving the enough wordings from the song. Thanks for pointing out this.

It is interesting that , in the same movie for two different genere of songs, IR used similar patterns and in "Raja Kaiyavecha" song, IR used differnt base pattern (to me in this song it is more of rhythm accompaniment).

All of them are good to hear and entertaining as well.

Thanks.