Friend Nakeeran...the news about MGR donning Jesus is news to all of us.....inspite of MGR rejecting the role of Jesus due to people worshipping the poster of his pose of Jesus, people today still worship MGR as their GOD.....
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Friend Nakeeran...the news about MGR donning Jesus is news to all of us.....inspite of MGR rejecting the role of Jesus due to people worshipping the poster of his pose of Jesus, people today still worship MGR as their GOD.....
At that time, he has not left DMK. I think if he were to do the role, he'd come into flak with his own party people. Remember, when he dressed up as Lord Muruga for one of the songs, he came under criticism from DMK people?
Plus, he would have been too old to play Christ, even though he still looked good. He had always used Christ, alongside Bhudda in his songs (Buddhan Yesu Gandhi). But it would have been interesting to note how he would have portrayed Christ. Would it have been performance oriented or MGR-istic? We will never find out.
Aaaaand....here's the worst part. The fans, then, would not be able to accept the climax, even though there is resurrection. The last time MGR died on screen, it was havoc!
But still, it would have been a milestone in his career.
Groucho,
I heard another reason.At that time ,there was a setiment (rumour or not,I am not sure)people who act as christ in movies and dramas dies soon after that .
Joe, I think if you put all those rumours together, acting as Christ is a no-no. And MGR is definitely not the kind of man to believe in those 'sentiment. If he wanna do it, he'd do it, no matter what. Look at USV. It could have just died out, he wanted to do it and bloody hell he did it!
On Christ, I think he would have made calculations and decided that it is not worth the effort. He was at the peak of his political career (before the clash with MK, of course) and this may be a risky move, considering that it will be a religious-oriented movie. He had always moved away from acting in those kind of movie, thus earning love and respect from fans of all religion. It's okay to play a christian character; but to play Christ himself may divide his fans. Or so, I think.
By the way who is USV //sorry for dig//
Groucho,
I don't think any problem seen from his partymen then ,since I have seen photos of MK with MGR on this movie launch
I don't think so ..NT acted as Siva .Did it divide his fans ? No .I am good example.I rate Thiruvilayadal is one of the greatest movies,which made me more NT fan.Quote:
Originally Posted by groucho070
I. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by leosimha
ulagam sutrum vaaliban.
:lol: Both are mutually exclusive to each other !Quote:
Originally Posted by NOV
Groucho sir ,Quote:
Originally Posted by groucho070
I thought the other way. :D
The fans would have expected the climax to change totally & dramatically that the Jews would have apologised to the Christ Jesus pleading his mercy :D
See , in many of his movies, the villain will be made to realize his sins / mistakes and will apologise to MGR before he gets taken away by the Police :)
So, we can expect the same treatment here also.
I shudder to imagine what could have happened to the theatre screens if they had shown the Jesus ( MGR ) as dead in the end.
The screen would have been dddddddddddddduuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrr
Forget it. I think in the early 70s MGR wanted to play different roles ( with less number of fight scenes ) to suit with his advancing age. Mind you, he was 53 in 1970 when USV was made.
See, he tried Naan en pirandhen - you know the story well.
Also Pallandu vazga can be categorised in the same league.
So probably, even Jesus must have been such an attempt by MGR to move gradually to character roles and say goodbye to movies
Anbe vaa was another example ( movie sans fights )
USV was released in 1973, unless it was made in all those 3 years ... :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Nakeeran
yes, USV was very long iin the making.... 1970 was when the Expo was captured in Japan. banzaiiiiiiiii.....Quote:
Originally Posted by m_23_bayarea
:banghead: hmm...I thought so....hmm...here since people also use acronyms for IDs...got confused...Quote:
Originally Posted by NOV
Bay AQuote:
Originally Posted by m_23_bayarea
USV was a looooooooooong term project of MGR . Mr. Nov is right.
Expo 70 in Japan was the highlight of the movie which Thalaivar very smartly used it to his advantage.
What problems that he faced was vividly described by Mr. Manisegaran
USV is really a cool movie. MGR directed it :clap: MGR is a really talented person , though he is not great at acting. i think he is very underestimated.
Pallandu vaalgha ! another MGR movie that i liked .
the song, "Ondrey kulam edru paaduvom" is still awesome. MS Vishwanathan is a genius.
YESSSS !!! He is the best ... His work is NEVER SEASONAL!! Evergreen ... :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by Saamy
Saamy & Bay AQuote:
Originally Posted by Saamy
The composer for Pallandu Vaazga was K.V.MAHADEVAN .
This movie has some more hit songs like
1. Poivaa nadhi alaye
2. Enna sugam
MGR always kept KVM in high esteem. FYI , for Adimaipen ( Another MGR directed movie ) KVM only composed.
Sometime back Joe sir remarked that for many songs of yesteryears many thought that it was of MSV but actually were of KVM. I argued with him but now I realize that what he said is true 8-)
Probably many may think that Thillana mohanambal / Thiruvilayadal were of MSV but they are by KVM
Bay AQuote:
Originally Posted by m_23_bayarea
Mellisai Mannar is a trend setter and founder the new concept called MELLISAI which was severely criticised by purists in the end 50s but what he achieved is history .
That man possessed unbelievable melody and talent that he is incomparable genius.
Isainyani himself admits that whatever he has gained and achieved in life has to dedicated to MSV Anna only :D
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Originally Posted by Nakeeran
A Puratchi thalaivar movie with superb songs . This movie is another hit movie for MGR .
Whenever I listen to this song, automatically, I get motivated
Such a power lyric
Aarilum saavu noorilum saavu
thayagam kapadhu kadamayada
Karuvinil valarum mazalayin uyiril
dhairiyam valarpal thamiz annai !!
Vaanzdhavar kodi maraindhavar kodi
makkalin manadhil nilaipavar yaar ( This sentence befits MGR the most )
TMS sings at a very high pitch with minimum of fuss and thats his greatness !
MGR , riding on a horse sings this o/s song of yesteryears.
Mellisai Mannar MSV and TKR composed which is one of their best albums as well
http://music.cooltoad.com/music/song.php?id=185543
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Makkal thilagam rasiga perumakkale.
Here is the link for all his movies ( site under construction )
http://mgrmovies.blogspot.com/
Watch it yourself and ensooooooooooooooy it yourself .
Vataaaa
Can anyone please upload NAADODI MANNAN in any other download site except RAPIDSHARE / MEGAUPLOAD etc :roll:
Would really appreciate IF I could get "Kaanji Thalaivan" as well :roll:
What problem do you face in Megaupload ? I have been doing through this tool only regularly .Quote:
Originally Posted by selvakumar
By the way, did you try the links for Nadodi Mannan given in the earlier page ?
Wow! Thanks a lot! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Nakeeran
Here is the photo of Puratchi Thalaivar dressed up as Lord Murugan :shock: :D
http://bp0.blogger.com/_NSxK-BA3kHo/...-h/murugan.jpg
Murugan endraal azagan
MGR endraalum azagan dhaan :)
"najam ondu neermai ondu oodu rasa "
i like this song very much.
vaalkala adipattu nothu poi irukura oru manushan entha paatu kaata avanuku munatram than.
Thanks for the info. For me, rapidshare, Megaupload etc doesn't work since they operate on no. of connections / user / country :cry:Quote:
Originally Posted by Nakeeran
The links given by you refer to the content in Youtube.com. It is not downloadable. So, IF u can upload them as a ZIP file in either Share and Serve or Stream, it would be good.
IF you don't have the same, leave it :) and thanks for the info :D and your updates
Nakkeeran sar, was the Murugan still from one of those abandoned projects?
Or is it one of those song dream sequence he did...with JJ, I think. Can't remember.
G70 saaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrr
Thats from a Devar movie for sure but dont remember the name .
Groucho,Nakeeran
chk this...
http://mgrroop.blogspot.com
murugan still also there. :)
I know, Joe. I've seen this Murugan still elsewhere. Everywhere, but, but I can't figure out which movie. Enakku Paithiyam pidichidumpoola irukku. I used to be quite good in MGRology, but it's been a long time. Got to take a refresher course.
We all know that Makkal Thilagam produced & directed 3 movies which were super hits also :
1. Nadodi Mannan - 1957
2. Adimai penn - 1969
3. Ulagam sutrum valiban - 1970-73 ( started in 70 but released in 73 )
Adimai penn was one movie which had a very interesting storyline .
2 MGRs but the first one dies well before the second one surfaces.
MGR 2 gets brought up inside a prison cell whose height is deliberately shortened so that he will not grow. Consequently, MGR walks in a bent manner ( you can see this in the initial stages )
THIS MOVIE HAD SOME VERY GOOD ACTING BY JJ , PLAYING 2 ROLES , ONE THAT OF A COMMON WOMAN AND ANOTHER THAT OF A QUEEN !
Ok. Now the story of Adimai penn
A woman ( Pandari Bhai ) was married to one king (MGR1) but another king named Sengodan( Asokan ) likes her. After some years Sengodan on a hunting trial meets the woman who was now a Queen, he proposes but the Queen points out that she is a mother, but Sengodan tries to kill her son, the Queen uses an axe and cuts Sengodan's right leg. This brings dishonest to Sengodan's country men.
MGR on hearing goes to Sengodan's country and asks Justice. And Sengodan agrees for a duel. The fight takes place over the net below Javelins was placed; who ever falls on the Net will get pierced. The rule is if the Fighter loses his weapon or falls from the net it is considered as a defeat and that the ruler and the people of that Country will become slaves to whoever wins the duel.
As Sengodan has one leg, MGR binds his right leg and fights with him, the result MGR wins but Sengodan throws a Javelin and kills MGR. Sengodan orders his men to get hold of the Country and summon the Queen and her son. One of MGR's close aides escapes and reaches his country but he was able to save the queen but not the Prince, who was taken prisoner. All the girls in their country are made slaves and thus the title.
The Queen was in hiding and year’s rolls by. The close aide was captured and sentenced to prison where he meets the Prince (MGR) who was allowed to live in a 2 feet high cell, MGR was introduced as a Barbarian, he did not know how to talk, how to eat with his hands, and he did not know that he was a human being. The close aide was taken aback on seeing the condition of his Leader. Some how he and his Leader escape from the prison via a river. He manages to save his Leader and dies in his grand daughter’s hand getting promise from her that she has to teach everything to him and make him the Ruler again and abolish the slavery of their Country. The Grand daughter Jeeva, acted by Jayalalitha promises him and takes MGR to her hut. But the traveling made on the river makes him sick. So his hands and legs are tied, showing his beautiful physique. MGR behaves rudely but she calms herself and treats him good. She raises him against all odds. She teaches him to speak and write. Slowly he understands who he is. But still he was not able to walk like others, stands like a hunchback because he was grown up in 2 feet high cell. She also teaches him all kinds of martial arts.
As MGR character is a man who helps damsel in distress saves a girl from two warriors, and when he tries to help the girl who was binded between two heavy wooden plank and MGR while lifting the plank, his curved spine straightens he was able to stand like normal person. And now Jeeva tells MGR all about his tasks and shows his mother's hiding place. On seeing his mother’s condition MGR vows to his mother that he will release the slave girls and his Country from the clutches of Sengodan. MGR with the help of Jeeva and others attack small group of soldiers and show his mark to Sengodan. MGR and his followers strikes often and frees up the girls from slavery. On one such assault, he comes upon a Commander of neighbouring nation, who was also a relative of Sengodan, played by R.S.Manohar, he was astonished on seeing Jeeva because his Nation Ruler is also another Jayalalitha. He conspires to replace the real Queen with Jeeva and take over the country. This conspiracy leads to the separation of MGR and Jeeva from his followers. They are captured by the Commander claiming MGR as a spy and hides Jeeva in another place, keeping MGR and his friend in the trial.
The Queen presides over the trial as she is also the sister of Jeeva, MGR also believes that his sweet heart is the Queen and hates to look at her. MGR's hands were bounded and were pulled by strong men on both sides. MGR shows his physical strength and throws both men. The Queen was impressed and attracted to MGR and orders to release and appoints him as her special body guard.
The Commander hatches a plan to kill both the Queen and her body guard and ask her to come for a Party. But the poisoned drink was misplaced by one of MGR's close aides acted by Cho who pretends as a magician and practices Witch craft.
The Commander having only one card in his sleeve orders to arrest MGR and the Queen. He pleads with Jeeva to act as the Queen so she and her Leader can be freed and allowed to return to their country. She accepts and replaces the real Queen and the Queen was dressed in Jeeva's cloth and kept in captivity, later to be killed. The commander goes to the prison and tells his plan but MGR cleverly kills the commander and escapes with the Queen thinking that she is real Jeeva.
After a long journey MGR reaches his country, due to his long absence the Country has changed, their house gutted with fire and farms plundered, his own men were now against him. MGR tells the whole story and makes them to rejoin the army. The Queen now joins the Sengodan side and waits to take revenge.
Same time MGR mother was captured by Sengodans men and announces the news of going to kill her in public. MGR and his men secretly enter the palace and fights with Sengodan and MGR likes to pay a man back in his own coin kills him as Sengodan has done to his father, releases his mother, his lover from the Lion and his Kingdom from Sengodan.
The movie like any other MGR movie, ends on a positive note :D
STORY ENDS
Lets see the main characters from Adimai Penn :
Vengaiyan: MGR dons dual role as father and son, His hunchback character and barbaric activities like trying to drink the water like an animal from the bowl and doing the same with a cup, seeing his figure in the mirror and reacting and innocently asking why he is not kissed by Jeeva when she kisses and say good bye to all kids who come to learn are very well portrayed by him. The questions he ask about why he has to learn martial arts, the enemies, and how the enemies look like, and silly questions like how the fight will look like and so on that every child would ask.
And also how a Leader should behave in time of crisis and how to manage his men and his enemies are very beautifully narrated like many other MGR films. His love to his mother and the vow to regain his country in a clever way depicts his real character.
Sengodan: Played by Asokan … no he lived by the Character, as time is a good healer, his principles never changes in time. His disgust of not able to achieve his goals is depicted in every frame. His lion voice and modulated dialogues is another feather to his cap. His villainous laugh in the climax still echoes in my ears.
Jeeva/Queen:
JJ's one of the best portrayals of 2 different characters . Excellent differentiation between a poor peasant girl and Queen.
Her walk and look of a Queen is terrific. Also she is a good dancer, she might have exhausted after the dance sequence in the Desert. As per the story she is a teacher who teaches Martial arts to MGR (who is well known martial artist) the storyboard people questioned that the people will not digest that she is teaching MGR but MGR had confidence that his fans will not be embarrassed, after screening and huge success his idea proved right.
I think , this was the only movie that she had played 2 roles .
Costumes: The costumes of the film have two types one is rough looking and another Roman type. MGR cleverly used rough cloth to a peace loving people and delicate Roman style for Power hungry, depicting that nobility is not in the dress but in the heart.
Action: Or fights are all different kind as you expect in a MGR film the first fight scene on the nets and the last fighting scene with Lion is not pictured previously in any Tamil film. MGR as a Hunchback used wrestling techniques of gracious body movement and not using that much of fist for fighting. Swash buckling Prison fight with R.S.Manohar and his army is also worth mentioning.
Editing: As you know the film has 24 frames per second, and MGR used more 6 frame bits to Lion fights which boosts the thrill in the climax and shows MGR editing prowess. Thousand of footage used for the 10 minute Lion fight.
(The Lion named Raja was bred by him and after it died the body preserved and still kept in MGR Home for public view)
Camera: There is no ideal frame, the frame is always moving, zooming, panning and tilting, great camera work was again is in the Lion fight. Magnificent scenes include thousands of Camels marching in the desert and the song shot in Jaipur palace which I have mentioned in the previous blog are tip of an ice berg. The Cameraman V.Ramamurthy proved his mantle.
IF MGR HAD NOT ENTERED ACTIVE POLITICS, WE COULD HAVE WITNESSED MORE AND MORE SPLENDID / CLASSIC MOVIES FROM THIS VERSATILE GENIUS .
I particularly liked Asogan's performance in this movie. It is what I'd call, a perfect overacting. MANGGGAMMMAAAAAA!!!!!
Interesting trivia:
1. Was planned in '65, with Saroja Devi in it.
2. MGR/KVM Introduced JJ as a singer. Not a bad singer. Could have retired as an actress and become a singer, instead of....
3. This, I am not sure, but isn't the lion towards the climax his own pet?
I had the opportunity to see this in big screen and needless to say, the colour blew me away. MGR films are MEANT to be watched on big screen.
And here is the link ( youtube ) for the classic Adimai Penn :
http://techsatish-techsatish.blogspo...oad-links.html
Ensooooooooooooooyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy :D :D
The costumes all resemble greekish !!
During the song Thayilaamal Naanillai, MGR appears with red top and black bottom ( in a cut banian type dressing ) .
Midway, another MGR joins with an yellow colour outfit !
This movie is not short of titbits for sure :shock: :D
For one song, MGR as usual approached TMS but TMS had to go on travel for an important engagement and hence requested Thalaivar to wait.
BUT THALAIVAR TOOK IT THE OTHER WAY AND SUMMONED ONE ASPIRING CANDIDATE WHO WAS SINGING SPORADICALLY UPTIL THEN.
YES IT WAS NONE OTHER THAN THE GREAT S.P.BALASUBRAMANIAN :D
It was a pleasant surprise when MGR summoned SPB for singing the evergreen AAYIRAM NILAVE VAA .
During the time of recording, SPB was down with fever but MGR still pursued with him and assured him that he only will sing the song.
SPB came back soon and complete the recording
What a super hit song , it turned out to be ultimately.
ITS ONE OF THE VERY BEST OF SPB
Full marks to the composer , the great K.V.Mahadevan who tuned hit songs like :
1. Thai illamal naan illai - TMS solo
2. Emaatradhey emaatradhey - TMS solo
3. Aayiram nilave vaa - SPB with P.Susheela
Soon MGR-TMS patched up and TMS continued to sing kolgai parappu songs for Makkal thilagam :D
To listen to the superhit AMMA SENTIMENT song Thai illamal song , visit the link below :
http://mgrvideo.blogspot.com/2006/12...dimai-pen.html
I had the opertunity to see Adimai pen on big screen 10 years back ..But recently I bought a DVD with 2 in one USV and Adimai pen :)Quote:
Originally Posted by groucho070
Good analysis Nakeeran about 'Adimaippen'Quote:
Originally Posted by Nakeeran
I have watched the movie several times, both in big screen and in small screen.
So, I am 100% sure that, they showed in the title end "Direction : K.SHANKAR".
I think the 3 movies he directed were nadodi mannan, USV and Maduraiyai meetta sundrapandian.