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I happened to download the kadhal arangam trailer from behindwoods. The BGM was simply out of the world. I know that the movie has been in the making for a long time. When did the trailer come out ?? Am I too late to catch that ?? Are the songs out ??
songs not out. But Rajni helped velu prabaharan to solve the problem of this film.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nerd
irir123,
I am not sure if I know you. But, when you are asking someone to review Raja's albums pls consider the following points:
1. My sincere request to you is to NOT project Raja's works as pure western classical compositions. If you do so, their mindset would be to expect classical compositions and they would only be disappointed because Raja's music would have a whole lot of classical patterns & partially developed phrases because of the time constraints he has for a song/musical piece (of course, if those are developed they can make good fugues or sometimes even concertos)
2. Pls highlight the way he has seamlessly integrated ICM & WCM. His adaptation of WCM to a format that could be appreciated by folks soaked in ICM and Folk music (endha poovilum vAsaum uNdu (murattu kALai) Chandirarum sooriyarum (avathAram) are classic examples.
3. To highlight his fusion you could possibly have Mozart I love you from NBW. Chamber welcomes thyagaraja & I met Bach and the other Bach song from HTNI would also do.
4. Songs which had a good fusion of ICM & WCM (poonkathavE thAzh thiravai), ICM & Jazz (MX) , Folk & WCM (there are loads of them !!) are all good candidates
5. There are some pure WCM numbers by Raja as well, such as poottukkaL pOttAlum from kshatriyan - a pure WC number set in 3/4 (Waltz beat) . You can provide them those as well.
6. Choose some of his themes which clearly show his great sense of melody and the variants of the themes to suit the mood of the scene for which it was composed (Idhayam & mouna ragam themes are good candidates)
There are many more songs/scores our knowledgable hubbers can suggest.
The point is to set their expectations right before asking them to review.
Pls highlight the fact that in the given 3-4 minutes for a song, he's done all this and there are BG Scores where he's gone ballistic on the pure WCM because the time to explore the themes are more.
You did the right thing by giving this person the MX CD. The ONLY Jazz composition done by Raja never got the appreciation it deserved. This is partly bcos there are not many serious Jazz listeners (that too modern, soft Jazz listeners) in India.
What's there to say believe-it-or-not when MX was received well ?!?!?!Quote:
Originally Posted by irir123
When I listened to it, I told my friends that Raja has for the first time ventured into Jazz (for songs...For many BG Scores he's done a lot of Jazz. The Bar sequence in thambikku endha ooru comes to my mind when I write his) and this album is a welcome change from his routine synth drum crap he's churning out these days....But I was totally disappointed to see the album flop big time !!!
I am happy that at least ARR's Jazz effort in SOK was received well by public.
Good suggestions by Shankar. We need to introduce IR as a popular musician who uses WCM and ICM/WCM fusion as a base for his work. As Shankar, from a classical point of view, many of IRs works will not be 'fully developed' or 'formally structured'. I did play his songs to some musicians here in the US and they mentioned, they could follow the chords and the 12-note movements but were not sure about the type of singing or what the percussion was doing (quite understandable).
Even IR was willing to be portrayed in marketing literature as a 'new age' musician like Yanni. Some posters here have been clamoring for a purely instrumental album from IR, preferably with big arrangements. This would be a good material for marketing. I feel TIS was a wasted effort in terms on marketability on the technical front, as it sounded like a studio album with voice mixing (like a film song) instead of a pure orchestral score.
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I feel TIS was a wasted effort in terms on marketability on the technical front, as it sounded like a studio album with voice mixing (like a film song) instead of a pure orchestral score.
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Precisely my feeling !! Technically I was expecting more from Raja. It may sound blasphemous, but IMHO, to make a technically competent product, Raja must've made someone else sing the lyrics. But given that it wasn't done for purely commercial purposes, I was able to accept his singing, purely for the emotional aspect of his singing. I would've anyday preferred a professional singer sing those lines to market Raja in the international circles.
I just hope he does a live orchestra performance like Yanni did. I feel he's in the leagues of people like debussy who can take music from one era to another, but he chooses to be a well-frog (perfectly fine from his view point) which unfortunately is bad for listeners like us.
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Originally Posted by irir123
Kaila vennaiya vachikittu neikku alaiareengalae? See your PM.
See the TIS thread for my views on TIS/replies to Shankar.
guys - I was listening to some stuff of Joe Satriani (the guitar 'god'!) - one particular piece "ECHO" bowled me over - the arrangement, and everything else sounds so IRish! in fact, it is kindof the peppy-jazzy-techno stuff that IR uses in the first piece in Nothing But Wind and the one called "Composer's breath" - I have uploaded the same in coolgoose - here is the link -
http://music.cooltoad.com/music/song.php?id=278325
do listen to it and let us know if you also felt the same about the piece! for IR composing such pieces should be like eating 'halwa'!
As I had Doubted This weeks Junior Vikatan Confirms that For the movie Ajantha IR Recorded 9 songs for each language totalling to 36. Damn! These Websites creating such hypes as Guiness World Record and all :evil: