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Originally Posted by tvsankar
இன்னிக்கு ஏதோ குழப்பத்தில இருக்கீங்க :lol: போய் நல்லதா நாலு ராஜா பாட்டு கேளுங்க. சாரு போல கழிசடை எல்லாம் நெனச்சு மனச ஒழப்பிக்காதீங்க :D
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Originally Posted by tvsankar
இன்னிக்கு ஏதோ குழப்பத்தில இருக்கீங்க :lol: போய் நல்லதா நாலு ராஜா பாட்டு கேளுங்க. சாரு போல கழிசடை எல்லாம் நெனச்சு மனச ஒழப்பிக்காதீங்க :D
idhu vena nejam dhan RS.Quote:
Originally Posted by rajasaranam
ana - kozhappam manasil ilai - kannil - kannadi pottukanam...... inum potukalai... hehhehehhe
wow, Padma Bhushan to IR 8-) .........super :bow:
RS,
ennoda Sankar sonna varthai - IR and blogs thittaradhu patri -
KAAICHA MARATHUKU THAN KALLADI VIZHUM.......
I reject this belated recognition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bala (Karthik)
Rahman fans can rejoice at timely recognition but I dont think we should celebrate this belated recognition.
My office vaazhga! This site is banned! Thank You, my dear Senior Management. You have now added "poor taste" as a reason to ban a site from the office access.Quote:
Originally Posted by K
Plum,Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
If you see the complete list of some of the past recipients of this honour, you might like to reject the award itself, forget the timeliness or untimeliness of it. These awards have lot of their relevance long back. So no big deal.
There is no point digging into all that, because there is no end to it. We dont have to take these awards seriously. Any awards for that matter. Just a feel good factor that Govt. of India did not forget his contribution.
Mikka Nandri :) I strongly feel MSV too should've got so that there would've been a real 'samooga nallinakkam' :oops:Quote:
Originally Posted by MADDY
VALZHGA PADMA BOOSHAN ILAYARAJA :2thumbsup: :victory: :thumbsup: :notworthy:
ராஜா-ஷாஜி-சாரு
சாரு மூஞ்சில சேறு!
எல்லாம் ஒரு பில்டப்தான். நமக்கு எவ்வளவு ஹிட்ஸ் கிடைக்குது பார்க்கலாம் :P
Its late. Still, I am so :happydance:
Bala film la Raja ilaya? :?
raagas, I am aware of that. See here for more of my thoughts on this.Quote:
Originally Posted by raagas
My take is that this is not even a recognition by "Govt of India". It is too huge an entity to be represented by a State government(which usually has merit as only an additional consideration to its politics and personal reasons to recommend) and an amorphous committee, reconstituted every year, and consisting of nameless bureaucrats.
All this makes for a far more random selection than even any usual award.
A recognition for Rahman this year is still relevant because it means that even these "nameless bureaucrats" are well aware of his stature and achievements and it gives cause for some joy.
Plum,
Ellaam vasthavam dhaan, irundhaalum i wouldn't reject this like a state award comedy!
Bala, fine, actually I am not taking a practical stand here but a pedantic one. Ofcourse, for the majority, it is just another recognition, and such pedantic differentiation of timeliness, committee composition etc are not going to make sense. Nevertheless, I repeat that A DSP award would make more sense to me at this point - adhuvum modhalla MSV-kku kodukkaNum.
I completely agree.India, as such, is notorious for recognizing the talent late, if it manages to recognize that is.
These awards have lost their relevance and dignity long back my friend.Look at this year only.. Saif Ali Khan gets Padmasri(With due respects to him, sorry if there are any Saif fans here).Kamal Haasan got Padmasri in 1990, after he essayed a series of different roles (his 80s work had lot of good films) that put him up there.Now, if we strictly view the parity,it means even Saif has reach the level of Kamal in 1990.Doesnt that sound absurd?
The reason why ARR was given is simple - he was felicitated by non-Indian entity - 'Academy'.And then Golden Globes. And in response, in his home country, the Govt. wants to play safe by showing/proving that they have recognized him too.And Tamil Film Musicians did it. Tamil Nadu Govt. did it (i think).But Govt. of India (or an entity of jokers on its behalf) did not do it. So they did it. Thats about it. The same theory operates even in the case of Dr. Ramakrishnan. Did the Govt. of India atleast know that a certain Dr Venkataraman Ramakrishnan existed?Suddenly they woke up after his Nobel laureate. So the sincerity quotient of these awards dropped long long ago.
Like i said, we dont need to take it too seriously. We Just congratulate the maestro and move on.
You guys think IR will go to Delhi to collect the Padmabhushan?
I believe all the 3 National Awards he didn't go in person....
alAnti thelivi-thakku vALLu ikkadundaru, dhairaymugA cheppandi!Quote:
With due respects to him, sorry if there are any Saif fans here
Plum,
I am with you. Nothing to rejoice as a fan for this rather belated recognition. And very honestly, as RS said, if they had given the same recognition to MSV I would have definitely rejoiced. That man deserves lot of recognition for what he has given us. Unfortunate that the government turns a blind eye. Anyway, let me not crib much since that will mean we value these awards. (And the biggest joke is that even Amir Khan gets a Padma Bhushan!!! ) I will probably be more happy if Raja rejects the award.
raagas, what I am saying is the award for Rahman makes sense now becuase of his international awards. He is in the limelight now for his talent, and giving him an award now gives a sense of closure.
Congrats IR & ARR for the Padmabhushan!
விருதினால் சிலர் புகழடைவார்கள்!
உன்னால் விருதிற்கே பெருமை!
பத்ம பூஷன் இதுவரை வாழ்ந்திருக்கிறது!
இனிதான் இசை பட வாழும்!
Congrats Shri.IR.
Vinatha. :redjump:
state awards/natinal awards are better.They dont insult by putting people belonging to different generations and different everything into same package.There just their works get recognised - not as a person.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bala (Karthik)
aamir khan and ilayaraja into same package - enna kaamedy idhu?idhukku kudukamalaye irundhirukalam!
decaan chronicle idiot - ilayaraja,who composed hit songs for amitabh bachan's paa - vera edhume ilayaraja panlaya?velakennainga
let this be a precursor to padma vibooshan and if possible bharat ratna :clap:
Charu padma bhushan kudakalam , for blogs with maximum perspective bias :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
All,
Like i said, the points you've made (and yet to make) are all understood and i'm in complete agreement. However, i feel happy at the end of the day.
Viv, neenga vera, nethu edho oru site la IR pere mention pannaleenga :lol:
Seri, if IR had won the National Award for best MD award for NK, neenga ellarum adha kandukkaama vitruppeengala? I'm sure you wouldn't have ignored it! NA-lanadakkaadha comedy-a? :huh:
Bala, as I argued for dsp, national award is much less random. As an example, I heard antaheen, this year's winner along with jogwa, joint winner. They have nice, melodious songs - until I see the movie, can't comment on how integral they were to the movie but antaheen especially seemed to be very apt from whatever snatches I got of the movie. Now delhi 6 and naan kadavuL may still be better and more deserving but the winners aren't actually kalhonaho-bad.
As a bonus snippet, to my untrained ears and unscientific mind, antahneen sounded Raja-ish and jogwa rahmanesque - let's take that as a tribute :-)
(Ofcourse moitra of antaheen has raja influence is well known)
When it comes to NA,the randomness and comedy and all will not disgrace the artist - because only the particular work of the artist is taken into account.
But Padma awards recognise the work of an artist as a whole and here people should be more careful - placing people at right levels.
NT didn't get a NA :huh:
Madhur Bandarkar has got, how many awards?
Priyanga has got it for showing matter expressions in motion, chi Fashion. Kangana Runout, your favorite Varanam Ayiram....
And don't tell me there is no comedy at a consistent level every year!
Particular film ku kuduthu kuduthu dhaane nalaikku lifetime ku kuduppainga?
Today's TOI, Bangalore edition (ammoorukku pakkathu ooru nu solraanga). No mention of Raaja's name in the awardee's list! Ippadi onnum pichai madhiri recognition thevai illa nu sonna vasthavam dhaan, but ennamo therila.... I guess i'm more hurt at Raaja not being recognized than i'm at seeing Raaja get a much delayed (and below par) award from a set of jokers.
Unmayaana sanmanam na adhu DSP dhaan but yaarunne theriyadhavarukku andha award kuduppaanga nu nenaikkareenga? Why did Venkatraman get the award now? yenna he got another recognition, from a white man.
DSP is possible if the state government pushes for it.It all depends upon our state gove.I dont think that the jury at the top will be unaware about Raja.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bala (Karthik)
Even now I dont blame central Govt.I think its the state govt which nominates names for the respective awards..isnt it?
A Reply to Shaji
http://www.musicquencher.com/blog/a-...out-ilayaraja/
A Reply to pA.rA.
http://drjvvr.blogspot.com/2010/01/blog-post.html
An Appreciation not Recognition
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Music maestro Ilayaraja, who has been selected for the Padma Bhushan award, today described it as an "appreciation" and not a recognition.
"It is not a recognition, but an appreciation. An appreciation to encourage artists to produce more," a smiling Ilayaraja told reporters at his residence.
Dont know how this is going to be blown out now :xQuote:
The 66-year-old music director, who recently scored music for Amitabh Bachchan starrer 'Paa', refused to comment on fellow music director and double Oscar-winner A R Rahman also being chosen for the honour.
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When asked whether there was any preference accorded to North Indian professionals while announcing such awards, Ilayarja shot back saying, "ask this question to politicians, not me."
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On director Bala winning the National award for Best Director for his film "Naan Kadavul" (2008), Ilayaraja, who had scored music for the movie, said not all (directors) can attempt (such a subject).
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Originally Posted by rajasaranam
nadathunga nadathunga
Nandha is not musically close to other Bala+IR films. But as Bala said this movie is not dark movie, a movie to youngsters. PaarkalamQuote:
Originally Posted by raagas
Absolutely. We all understand how govt machinery works. Ever tried getting any work or registration done at a Municipal office? Or any govt. office. Govt. offices (be it even a small ration shop to passport office to just any office) in India are notorious for lazy and slow work. Privatisation has induced some competency and something like a Telephone dept has improved a bit.But generally, we all know how the govt. machinery works. The same applies to even these committees set up for these stuff. Art and Cultural affairs etc. wonder if really do any work at all.If we, at a common man's level, know how govt. machinery works at a local office, then we should also realize that something similar happens even at slightly higher level..say macrolevel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
I agree that if IR did not get recognition earlier, it is because of carelessness of state govt. I dont know if it was politically motivated,since i am not aware of TN politics and the issues of 80s and 90s.thats why i cant say that it is willful, but i think that it is their carelessness/laziness to do their jobs sincerely.
Aaha enna oru idugai, JM belongs to usQuote:
Originally Posted by JeMo
:clap:
http://sify.com/movies/tamil/fullstory.php?id=14928886
"It is an appreciation, not recognition" - IR
u have nailed the point.......:thumbsup: it is hurting when our guys dont get recognised than getting recognised late with other bunch of inadequates......IR too stole the words - dont take it as a recognition, take it as a appreciation :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bala (Karthik)
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Originally Posted by raagas
ouch :lol: ......most probably he meant, how would i measure that feeling on behalf of him, its something his....Quote:
Since AR Rahman is one of the awardees as well a question about how he felt was posed to the veteran. Responding to it he replied “Why should I feel anything for him? That’s something you should ask him. I feel only for myself."
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On the other hand AR Rahman was more cool and relaxed. “I’ m overwhelmed that I have received the honour at the same time that Raja sir has got it. It is a great personal statement for me . He has played for my father Sekhar and I have played under Raja sir. It is a family thing for me.”
:lol: Trust Raaja to puLiya karachchify in everyone's stomach!Quote:
Originally Posted by MADDY