1983 should have more interesting albums! App anna has a a "marathon" to complete :notworthy:
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1983 should have more interesting albums! App anna has a a "marathon" to complete :notworthy:
nanRi, skr!
I need to key in two songs today to catch up and both will be from Anandhakkummi...
#104 ஒ வெண்ணிலாவே, வா ஓடி வா
(ஆனந்தக்கும்மி, 1983 ஜானகி / ஷைலஜாவுடன்)
One male + 2 female songs are not a rarity in TFM (though not as commonplace as reNdu poNdAttikkArarkaL in TN :wink:). The famous ones that come to mind quickly are nAnoru ponnOvium, nAn onna nenachchEn, Ayiram malarkaLE malarungaL. And so is this sweet number that has SPS adding to the best-of-the-duet-pairs-in-TFM. Song was a little more popular than thAmarikkodi on radio and buses.
I simply love the bass score of this song, especially the "transition to saraNam" part of the interludes. On the melody part, 'nALai indha vELai emai nee kANa vA, O pAl pOla vA' anupallavi part is unadulterated honey IMHO. On the lyric part, well, sweet but so, so - 'nilA nilA Odi vA nillAmal Odi vA' kind of pallavi which gets a little better in saraNam, overall quite average considering the umpteen nilA songs in TFM.
I know very well that AK was months later to kOzhi koovuthu and in my scale nowhere compared to that killer of an album. In a way, the recording & SPB were the major plusses of the album that helped it reach a level where A-kummi can even be discussed on the same line with k-koovuthu. kk is perhaps among the top-few innovative albums EVER in TFM. (Why compare these two? because both were IR family productions from the same time period). That way, though it had evergreen songs, personally, AK was a less satisfying album (despite thAmaraikkodi).
#105 ஊமை நெஞ்சின் ஓசைகள் காதில் கேளாதோ
(ஆனந்தக்கும்மி, 1983 , ஜானகியுடன்)
Vairamuthu in decent form in this song, with his special 'oomai nenjin Osai' cover drive. Despite some mAne thEne here and there which were necessary for filmy lyrics those days (may be to accommodate some Raja tunes), this song has such interesting phrases and the smooth flowing melody makes this song sweet. With SPB-SJ effortlessly delivering the goods, this one becomes easily the second pick of the album for me. And what a terrific second interlude with that sweet guitar phrase as the cream on the top!
Ofcourse there's simply no right emotion (if pathos had been intended) which is a common problem for all the songs of this album. thAmaraikkodi sounds like a war-cry (compared to kAdhal kEli), oomai nenjin sounds like a thAlAttu (supposedly pirivuththuyaram), O veNNilAvE sounds like children school song (and not a lovers' memorobilia). IR/SPB - who are supposedly the best in the business when it comes to that area (of emotions in TFM), went without a clue in this album. Sweet but not evoking strong feelings of the right kind or any form of nostalgia :-( Quite strange that way!
I think this album came in the 4th sem when we all had single rooms in the Emerald hostel. I had a Philips transistor radio (from grandfather as his home had a big stereo now, thanks to his last son-in-law-who-was-living-with-them, a mech engineer and big-time into music, even had a recording center later on in that city of Kamarajar). However, some friends had big stereos / walkmans in the hostel and life became a lot more musical. One of them -brother of a MLA and my badminton teammate - had that famous Panasonic stereo player (the same model with the Paul Mauriat demo which I've posted earlier about) and this one was to be the source of great music for most of us for the rest of the stay :-)
Beautiful write-ups App for Ninaivellam Nithya songs, your writings mixed with nostalgia are such a pleasure to read and for sure transports us back to those times. Great start to 1983 :clap: :clap: :clap:
App,
Which was the most popular song in AK at that time? The female duet oru kiLi uruguthu is the most popular today. And I have listened to O vennilaavE in the FM channels. The other two are not popular at all. Thamaraikkodi is almost forgotten. Thanks to people like you and complicateur (in that lovely writeup in Times of India) the song is getting some new listeners. :clap:
'mainA, mainA' was the most popular and 'O veNNilAvE' the next. The others were occasionally on radio / buses.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nerd
Interestingly, as per the existing culture, many people recorded all songs (except may be the 'machchAn mAtteekkittAru' and 'aNNanmArE thambeemArE' that turned off such "recorders" due to the irritating first line). 'thAmaraikkodi' enjoyed reasonable popularity with such private cassette players (i.e. in my observation) along with thiNdAduthE & oomai nenjin OsaikaL.
Beautiful write-ups App!. You are carrying us with Raja's music, your wonderful college memories simultaneously, along with various insights and anecdotes which gives a thoroughly entertaining and nostalgic read.
nanRi, V_S!
1983 will be as exciting a year as 1982, having tons of Raja albums with adequate SPB presence.
App annaQuote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
Wasn't Salangai Oli released in 83 as well ? :roll:
Since 1983 has simply too many IR-SPB albums and the timeline isn't as cleary remembered, I'm reverting back to the alphabetical order thingy (and Anandhakkummi came first). I think the significant numbers from AK are done and I should move on to the 200th movie of IR today :-) The other SPB numbers from AK - aNNanmArE thambimArE and machchAn mAtteekkittAru don't need separate posts IMO even though those were heard here and there those days. (I remember reading somewhere in the hub that one of them featured GM getting adi)...
Yes, ofcourse! And I saw the movie on the same day Kapil hit 175 n.o in the Prudential cup!Quote:
Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN
#106 அந்தரங்கம் யாவுமே சொல்வதென்றால் பாவமே
(ஆயிரம் நிலவே வா, 1983 )
SPB singing in a pitch different from speaking, possibly to differentiate two Karthiks (is it a dual role or manasAtchi or his own "Avi" or multiple personality? What was it? Didn't see the movie neither have any clue about the story). Ofcourse, the speech part ('epdi, epdi') is thoroughly irritating while the singing part is sweet. A guitar rich song with a new rhythm pattern for the time period and decent interludes. Overall, IR had done a minimum-standard-but-not-extraordinary-kind-of-job for this movie, despite the advertisements telling "200th movie of IR".
Actually my picks those days from this album weren't SPB numbers at all - 'gangai ARRil' by PS with that sweet guitar prelude & 'oottikkuLiru ammAdi' by MV/SPS with the cracking thALam were my favs. However, the radio / bus / tea stall / recording center kind of groups preferred the SPB numbers :confused: There was also a mukkal-munakal SJ song, kanni iLam poovudal.
Most of our wingmates too kind of aligned with my taste and it was 'oottikkuLiru' blasting out of the Panasonic stereo all the time! Very catchy beats that should make anyone shake / tap a bit :-) andharangam yAvumE had its own wingcasts but not the hot fav.
Movie was probably a flop and didn't do much to Karthik's career.
isnt this the movie with the rehash song of "KeLadhe nimagaagi" from Kannada movie Geetha into "Dhevadhai ILameni" ? what a fantastic transformation from a pathos to spooky.
I believe this movie was directed by RamaNarayanan and the plot involved a fake ghost story put on by the hero to fool the heroine (Sulakshana?).
Yes, dEvadhai iLam dEvi unnaichchuRRum Avi is the song and the director was A S Prakasam IIRCQuote:
Originally Posted by jaiganes
App, Superb song and Superb writeup as well. This was one of my recent discovery (:lol:)
Jai, even I have listened telugu version (original?) of Andharangam Yaavume song
app_engine, my take is that the "eppidi eppidi" was very novel then. I was young at that time (but already hooked to IR songs), and it was quite new, with the playfulness of the song coming through in those words. Also, I love the interludes of this song....wouldn't agree at all with your "minimum-not extraordinary" opinion, at least for this song.
Also, the two songs I listened to most from that album were Andharangam Yavume and Dhevadhai Ilam devi...
I agree, a number of people loved these two songs from the album but me (and my hostel colleagues) were out of sync. I think those two dry years of "thuvAkcity" corrupted the mind :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Shank
Manchu Kurise Velalo(abhinandhana) offers you an option without epdi epdi app. I deleyed the tamil version from memory because of the epdi epdi. Thank God for telugu and vamsi...
App-Engine
Absoultely Fabulous job. Thanks you are doing us a service, keep it up
For the several years you have been writing in the forum (At least 10 I would think), this is the first time, we differ in our taste that too on a IR/SPB song.
Devadhai Illam Devi/Andharangam Yavume (in spite of the Eppadi/Eppadi) would be listed in any one's TOP SPB solos - especially Devadhai.. What a song!. Sheer brilliance of IR/SPB showing superb contrast between this one and the Kannada "Geetha" song, tune being the same.
Gangai Aaru was a good song as well.
"ooti Kuliru"?? Hmm, we differ sorry
Once again, excellent job, Thanks and kindly continue
nanRi, balaji!
I do like the SPB songs of A-N-V but the others scored over them during college days due to many possible reasons. Looking back, it could be due to the huge transitions in (musical) taste due to the exposure in what could be called a "mini-america" that was only meters away from a TN village setting (i.e. the inside of REC campus where individuals with shorts / bathroom slippers / "love an enginIEEEr" roundneck shirts roamed around in brakeless bicycles).
Another development was due to a simple statement by a non-musical classmate who asked me 'did you hear "Thriller?". When I said 'No', he asked me another question, 'do you know MJ'. Again I said 'No'. His statement then was - you talk / discuss so much about music but don't know the #1 in the world!
I was in a state of shock!
Well, until that point, my exposure to music was primarily TFM and occasional Hindi songs / BoneyM / ABBA / western instrumentals that were used for march-past in school & circus :lol: (say, the piece called 'escape') and that's about it.
Now, his statement simply gave me a strong kick. What followed in another few days was a cover article in TIME that I chanced upon in the college library on MJ ("why, he is a thriller inside his world")! That same week, while loitering in burma bazaar, I spotted this cassette from Singapore (with a guitarist / STEREO logo) that had "The very best of Michael Jackson" and got it. It had beat it, girl is mine, thriller, off the wall, don't stop till you get enough, rock with you, I'll be there, billie jean among others. I had that cassette for another 20 years (and should still be in some corner in the house in India) :-)
So, a big change in approach to music listening from the year 1983 and that thing, kind of reflected on the personal rating of songs that appeared during that transition period :-)
#107 தேவதை இளம் தேவி உன்னைச்சுற்றும் ஆவி
(ஆயிரம் நிலவே வா, 1983 )
The most popular song of IR's 200th movie and as observed by Jai / Plum / balaji, a rework of IR's melodious number from other language into Thamizh as a eerie one. I was watching the youtube yesterday - which looks good though not causing fear. Karthik is nice and so is Sulakshana on this video.
As mentioned in the prior post, my rating of this song was influenced by factors other than the song itself while the acceptance was quite high among public. Had a lot of radio / bus / teastall time. Another irritation causing thing to me was certain MSV-fans in the hostel comparing this to 'engE nimmadhi' which was unjustified.
In any case, a nice song to hear - if one discounts those nari / nAi ooLais and such sounds.
All engine
Nice summary of your musical experience as a young man
83 Had wonderful films
Excellent - Adutha Varsisu, Vellai Roja (2 wonderful duets each) , Mundhanai Mudichu, Raagangal Maruvadhillai, Thanga Magan, Thoongadhe Thambi, Salangai Oli (Kamal focused more on non Tamil films era)
Some Nice songs = Oru Odai Nadhiyagiradhu (Thalayai kuniyum Thamarai), Payum Puli (Aadi Masam - cracker of a song only because of SPB), Anney Anney (Urugine - nice melody thanks to spb./sj - where did such simple songs go...)
Can't wait for your posting
App,
What a memorable recollection of your college days. :clap: I can visualize your talks as well. Incidently I was almost in your situation during my 9th/10 std where I have been introduced to MJ. But as you mentioned, I witnessed all the fights between our elder friends between songs of MSV and Raja those days, but those were the times I immediately get to those songs and experience how one faired better than the other, but could not obviously conclude anything, it was way over top of my head. Beautiful times.
nanRi, balaji & V_S!
Those were really wonderful times - youth & a measure of freedom :-) In addition, those years in Emerald (4th -8th sem) gave immense opportunities to have "personal time" as well as fantastic companionship with wingmates / hostelmates / yearmates.
The MJ experience was complemented with Radio Australia listening, thanks to another Thanjavur guy (who intro'd 'Eye of the tiger' to me and was a western music freak, you can ask him the details for any popular western # and he knew them all - he was in the other hostel for our year - Sapphire - but we shared a strong rapport - now he lives in the DC area). The international weekly top 20 count down (or ten, I don't clearly remember) on Radio Australia became a must listen.
What more, Raja was at his peak, hitting out hundreds after hundreds!
Times - that will never repeat!
#108 காவிரியே கவிக்குயிலே கண்மணியே வா வா
(அடுத்த வாரிசு, 1983 , ஜானகியுடன்)
A rocking hit number featuring one of the top on-screen pairs, Rajinikanth-Sridevi and sung by the top duet singer pair! A song whose traces can be seen in songs in other languages, including the 'kaisE kahEn' of new millennium. A song that thrilled all of us with its fantastic percussion arrangements when arrived - one in which Raja showcased some sounds made by his new toys!
One tends to think that SPB got so thrilled to sing this number, going by his enthu :-) It appeared that the producer spent quite some money (by standards of those days) to get portions of this movie shot in a Rajastan palace / lake. This song, as indicated by the motor boat sound in the prelude, was on the lake and was a typical kanavu scene :lol:
While the album can easily get a top rating (MV's Asai nooRu vagai too occured in this), the movie was so-so and the most disappointing thing for me on screen will be in the next post...
App-Engine
Compare this with "malli Malli" song from Rakshashadu. Similar start, boat songs, same singers, what a difference in the song, presentation and singing
SPB-SJ-IR are the masters of their profession and they do so well..
Glad we enjoyed music in their best times
Bala
I'm not yet exposed to this number, will try to search for this and listen to it :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by balaji
My exposure to "IR-north-of-pooviruntha-valli" is very very limited :-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-WFyI5ti-oQuote:
Originally Posted by balaji
What a beautiful song! Nanringo :D
#108 காவிரியே கவிக்குயிலே கண்மணியே வா வா
(அடுத்த வாரிசு, 1983 , ஜானகியுடன்)
:oops: First time, I am hearing this, infact "pEsa koodathu" was the only song I remember from AV, as it was a mokka film, I have not remembered much of the song!
App anna
Continue your marathon :thumbsup:
#109 பேசக்கூடாது, வெறும் பேச்சில் சுகம் ஏதுமில்லை
(அடுத்த வாரிசு, 1983 , சுசீலாவுடன்)
The Rajinikanth-Silukku song on screen :shock:
Let me put a disclaimer - I have nothing personal against Silukku - actually pity her, such a talented person who got totally misguided and killed herself in the end :-( Also, if one resigns to the fact that movies had / have / will have such a character in them anyways, then there's no question that she has no parallel - including most heroines who too tried to do the same thing on screen. So, my irritation was not against a person but the irrelevance of the kind of character she represented to such a great song.
ஆசை கூடாது, மணமாலை கண்டு, சொந்தம் கொண்டு... thus goes the lines with ammA (i.e. akkA of SPB) singing in a very homely way and one expected it to have a kind of scene that fits that. And not a swimming pool number with a call girl - yuck :-(
Well, if one didn't love the song too much prior to going to the theater when released, they may not have such a strong irritation. It was one of those too-much-loved-songs for me when we got the cassette. The very new style of background (possibly the new keyboard that rAsA got at that point of time) including the terrific ending sound were so loved by me and was never tired of listening to this number. (Even now, I hear this song often on drives).
Going by the lyric and the choice of PS, I'm sure IR/SPB/Lyricist/PS didn't build the song for what finally got presented on screen. Perhaps the director too didn't plan it that way but ended up later that way - which can be blamed on disti's.
In any case, fantastic singing by SPB (Ekkam appadiyE izhaiyOdum) with a sharp contrast from PS (mature, disciplined)...
Yes, I completley agree about the pEsa koodathu song, I was irritated by such scene as well. I heard the song before seeing the film, and I was totally annoyed by the presentation! The song sounds like sweet innconect romantic duet!
and Like you said PS does sound so much like an "akka" to SPB :)
Apparently I overestimated you as Rajini and SPB fan. This thread is indeed useful. More app, more!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN
Kaviriye Kavikuyile, to me, is like sequel to O Vasantha Raja...there's something similar.
This is a rather special song for me. Particular favorite of my daughter who loves the "Sweet heart" portion of the song too much.Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
The picturisation was also classy (for an AVM kadai movie).
SPB simply eases into the song and Raaja sets up a wonderful arrangement of instrumental portions synth as well as real in perfect balance.
I was doubtful if this song would make it in app's list and was ready mentally to make a plea to include it... So delighted to see App already adding it..
I particularly like the hindi portions in the song "Saiyya more saiyya, Ae dheko Ae dheko... Saiyya more saiyya.. Kaali ghata chaye dekho na, aaa jaaa saiyya ,are mo re saiyya"
How to pack in which akshar in which note without spoiling it - one should learn from Baalugaaru!!! sooper..
jai,Quote:
Originally Posted by jaiganes
IIRC, the production was done by one "துவாரகீஷ் சித்ரா"...is it an other-lang version of AVM?
The name Dwarkish Chitra, which also apparently produced nAn adimai illai, reeks of a Kannada smell. Must be a Kannada Production house. Dont think it was AVM's clone
In the spirit of catching more eye-balls, spamming this thread with a post made in another thread:
(smart strategy, piggy back on app's dedicated fan-base that visits this thread.)
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Last song to catch my fancy:
vurukulayi godavari from Abhilasha.
Abhilasha, I have always neglected as a poor cousin of Challenge, what with Yendamuri, Chiranjeevi and the director(whose name I forget) combining yet again.
It doesn't help that the primary memory I took away on first watch were, well, Radhika in tights, Silk-Smitha-ish thigh-cut skirts pop-dancing away with the unruly mop-ped Chirugaaru, with his trademark (weird for non-fans, genius for fans) dancing moves.
Radhika - for all her general acting talent - isn't really my idea of a glamorous pop-star, a role she simulated again for Kannan vandhu paadugindran, thereby spoiling the song for me.
Therefore, I suppose I can be excused for mentally mapping Abhilasha as that album with Chiru-with-his-gymnastic-tricks "banti chamanti" and Radhika-prancing-for "vela paala ledhu"(in tamil SPS crooned this tune as "aadai kondu aadum" for some other movie - not, I think, a remake of this one).
When you assume like that, it is only natural that you end up as what they say happens to you and me when we assume.
So, then, this song shoots like a meteor into my life recently. I have heard it before - just not paid enough attention.
It is a grand number, with wind instruments ruling the roost raising images of wind-surfing on a placid river. One true test of Raja songs for eternal life is what we in this parts have put together as "escalating melody". I am not sure who coined it(I fancy it might have been myself) but it describes the song perfectly.
The grand wind-instrument opening leads to SPB, joyfully, as he only can, crooning the opening lines with mirth and excitement. As Janaki joins with a fitting riposte, SPB moves into heart-warming territory with "...shruti telupe murali", Janaki returns that with interest in "chigurakku...siri muvva ravali".
So far so good. Like a Fed-Nadal point, robust exchanges. Then SPB delivers the knock-out punch with an intoxicating, dreamy "rasa mayam jagathi".
But the real matter lies in the saranams. As I mentioned, it is here that the escalating melody shows up. It is one of those SPB-only-possible moments, as the tune, like a Anil Kumble floater, takes very minor twists and turns, and each turn holding a very subtle emotion. It is far tougher, as countless batsmen from the 90s will agree, to face up to such minor variations than with the big-turning, clearly demarcated emotional roller-coasters.
Thus goes SPB
naa pEdha hridayam // Robust declaration, but a typical lover-ish self-pitying reference to "my poor heart"
nee prema nilayam // "is your playground for Love". Moon-struck offer. The tune is same as previous line but you have to show a shift in the emotion
nAdhaina brathukE E nAdO nIdhainadhi // The subtle breaks SPB uses to punctuate this sentence are breathtaking - nA...dhainA brathukE..pause..E nAdO... is sheer genius at work. ("My life became yours ere long")
neevanna manushE I nAdu nAdhainadhi // Wonder, and joy at the culmination of the love and togetherness.
And here again, SPB has a knock-out punch to finish the stanza:
oka gundE AbhilAshA
padhi mandhikki brathukainadhi.
I just cannot get enough of the last two lines as SPB packs so much into them - I am infact, so broken down in emotion and sheer amazement at the art, that I would need the help of those reading this to listen to the song and help me list down what all SPB covered in those two lines. (suresh, raagas - pls help with links)
Intriguing lines, too. Until now, it is a personal ballad speaking of their love. These lines really raise my curiosity?
oka gundE AbhilAshA
padhi mandhikki brathukainadhi.
- "One heart's desire gave life to 10 people"
Why would it, I mean? Is he referring to the living made by sundal-wallahs, bribe-taking policemen, cinema halls selling tickets etc as among the 10 people who make a living from a heart's desire, as they do benefit from lovers' desire to be together?
Nah! More likely a reference to the film's theme, I guess. Raagas/suresh can throw more light.
Abhilasha is about a young lawyer, trying to highlight a loophole in the law, in a bid to legislate it out of the law-book. He arranges a fake murder, planning, reasonably enough, that he'll go through the legal rigmarole, and eventually, reveal all in the film's climax, thereby exposing the loopholes in the law. Only, the fake murder turns out to be anything but fake and he is forced to be on the run.
Would those lines, then, refer to the hero's desire to abolish this loop-hole in the law, which presumably, would benefit atleast 10 people?
Not really sure, and not really sure why such a sentiment makes its way to a love-duet.
Such, then, are the pleasures of Raja-triggered nostalgia, thought-coordination, and musings.
I'll leave you without a link(which will surely materialise soon if I know my suresh/raagas well enough as I presume I do) but with SPB, bringing his full hand of magic tricks, lapping my ears with wave after wave of the addictive, escalating melody
wat about Telugu SPB and Raja combo nu app kitae kaeka nenachen..u start Plum.lovely song.. lovely write up....
wat abt alli billi kalala raave....
rasa mayam ja ga dhi - ipadi sapce vidanam Plum...
Beautiful and Best Chorus............. so swweeeeeeet........
ja..ga...thi - yes, Usha, you put it right. The pause between the syllables makes the song.
One reason why I cannot make this a series like app is
a) my inconsistency as a writer - I am more often in writer's block mode than actual writing mode.
b) Unlike app, who encountered the IR-SPB songs linearly in Life, and are punctuated by vivid college memories(not sure whether the music punctuated his college life, or his college life punctuated the IR-SPB magic in his life), my experience of these Telugu songs are primarily aural, in random order through my Life. It is very difficult to put together a coherent narrative.
I'll be sporadic - as usual. But promise when I do post, I will try to cover as much facets of the song as possible including trivia and empty opinions.