Films of Mani Ratnam

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Originally Posted by rangan_08

One thing I noticed about Mani's films is that inspite of being a trend setter, most sought-after director etc., he has not shot even a single song sequence in a foreign location unless and otherwise the story demands it (a song in Russia in Guru). Is it a plus or a minus ??? I dont know.

Another general point I woul like to share here is, when a creator makes a movie based on historic events, audience simply ignore it in the BO if it is based on the darker sides of history. A classic example I would say is Hey Ram (Hindu-Muslim riots). Either the audience feel that they have a moral responsibility or they must be ashamed. You can probably add Schindler's List also.

On the other hand, if glorious parts of history is made into a film it will get tremendous response eg. Veerapandia Kattabomman.

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they love heroism rangan...simple.

they wanna see their forefathers as heroes.

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Originally Posted by equanimus

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Originally Posted by kannannn

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Originally Posted by equanimus

In my reading of the political films of Mani Ratnam, he raises all relevant "questions," and betrays a stubborn diffidence to offer a coherent "resolution," or be fully "clear" as you put it.

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'Diffidence' - ellam illai. I don't think he understands the issues clearly :D .

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That's what I meant, actually. That he's diffident -- lacking confidence in his ability to understand the issue. It's like, he's admitting that he's not totally clear about the issues himself.

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Oh ho! Wrong interpretation!! I thought you meant he was too shy to put forth his solution. Yes, it does make sense :).

caught glimpses of Bombay on KTV (seems to be manirtnam vaaram :lol:)

romance scenes in the begining, amidst backdrop of beautiful natural scenary is so fresh and leaves us breathless........manirtnam has to be the most chivalrous director in history of tamil films...........its always the male protaganist who goes tirelessly after the female protaganist and not the other way around........i cant remember any instance where the female lead takes the lead in love in Mani's movies except for simran in kannathil muthamittal where she expresses her love indirectly to madhavan and "second" aish's flirting with mohanlal character in iruvar.....amala after prabhu in agni natchithram and radha after mike mohan in idhaya kovil can be passed as abberations in this trend........its such a refreshing change from other greats like KB who always has 1000+ females lined up after his male protaganist.......and even today's directors like aameer make movies that have female protaganists who confess undying love for male characters........ :D .....

another scene that caught my eye was when the marriage registrar office peon asks the couple "aap log madhrasi hai kya"? manisha retorts back smiling "athaadi, naa idha varaikkum madras paathhadhe illa".........it is a dig at general mumbaiites view that "madras = TN+AP+Kerala+Karanataka" :lol: .........it was appreciated in chak de too which came 13 yrs after Bombay......

the discomfort the house owner's wife shows on knowing Manisha is a muslim is a very realistic description of mumbai's conservative marathi people.........there are many areas in mumbai, where muslims are not given houses for rent....i know that for a fact.. :oops: .....i think mani has used his short life in mumbai to a great extent in this movie........ :D

Maniratnam - Indhiyavin kurusowa :lol2:

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Originally Posted by MADDY

simran in kannathil muthamittal where she expresses her love indirectly to madhavan and "second" aish's flirting with mohanlal character in iruvar.....

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rendu series of scenes-ume abarama irukkum.. 8-)

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Originally Posted by MADDY

.....1000+ females lined up after his male protaganist.......

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So far removed from the ground realities, isn't it ? :-)

aishwarya rai showed her potential in romance and rama right in her first movie...adhukapuram onnum perusa...mmm

she gave any good performances in hindi?

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Originally Posted by Vivasaayi

she gave any good performances in hindi?

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Guru :D .....

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Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram

So far removed from the ground realities, isn't it ?

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aaama aaamaa :lol: .........azhagan padam ellam paathhutu, veetla irukkura ENO, gelusil ellam dhwamsam :oops: :cry:

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Originally Posted by MADDY

caught glimpses of Bombay on KTV (seems to be manirtnam vaaram :lol:)


Maniratnam - Indhiyavin kurusowa :lol2:

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:oops:

oru difference...

ulagam fulla kurasawa va copy adichainga

mani visayathula ulta

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Originally Posted by crajkumar_be

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Originally Posted by MADDY

simran in kannathil muthamittal where she expresses her love indirectly to madhavan and "second" aish's flirting with mohanlal character in iruvar.....

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rendu series of scenes-ume abarama irukkum.. 8-)

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8-)

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Originally Posted by MADDY

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Originally Posted by equanimus

As I've already admitted, the denouement does bring the "national" allegory to a very abrupt end, which leaves several questions unanswered. As if the director has a marked indifference to it.But, the juxtaposition of the (male-female) love story with a "national" story, I think, is potently constructed. (And, then, there are some little things. Like why Preity Zinta is specifically shown to be hailing from Kerala, and not some generic "Hindi-speaking state" like Bombay or Delhi.) I think it'd be fair to call the denouement in the wake of the "national" narrative, a "creative failure."

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which is why the film worked for me :D .......i could never view it as a complete obsessive love story standalone or as a movie having interesting comments on nation's status, on the other hand......it was the juxtaposition of both the themes which was mesmerising, compels me into viewing it multiple times.......

and i love the way SRK's character was built......that naivety stays throughout the film......right from his over-the-board compering for a normal AIR show to chasing a unknown girl into deep, interiors of India....then in the second half when manisha narrates her past, he just shrugs off in a "what-can-we-do-now" manner........to being completely oblivious of his marriage arrangements, i think it was superb....

from equa's link :

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further heightening the overall sense of dis-location, and suggesting the impossibility of realizing romantic fantasy in the midst of oppressive contemporary realities

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noothula oru comment.......throughout the film, theres a sense of dis-location..........

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