The Greatest Indian Epic - Mahabharath

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Hi Pradheep
Gnana marga is not the only way.Bhkathi marga is also useful in Kali yugam

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Dear friend
This is the confusion prevalent among many, that bakthi is different , and so is karma and gnana. If we are talking of the Gnana about the "Self", then that Gnana blossoms (?) when the actions (karma) are performed with an understanding, which also holds good for bhakthi. Bhakthi is not singing bhajans or prostrating on the ground before an idol. Without the right understanding, how can there be bhakthi?. So it gnana that comes out of karma and bhakthi. In that way even bhakthi is a karma only.

conclusion:. If karma (actions) is done with an attitude (bhakthi) then one becomes a gnani (onewith Gnana). So where is the question of different margas?

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Originally Posted by viggop

Hi Pradheep
Gnana marga is not the only way.Bhkathi marga is also useful in Kali yugam

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Dear Pradheep & Viggop

I agree with Viggop, Pradheep One can realise the truth by gnana, for example, let's say we(u,me & Viggop) all realise the Paramatma, but this is NO way a gurantee for Mukthi/Moksham.
another MOST difficult thing is putting this into PRACTICE, this is when one becomes a real sanyasi, so realising the truth alone is NOT enough!

Only Bhakthi is the way to Moksha/Mukthi, this is told in the Gita by Lord Krsihna.

dear Pradheep & Viggop

Thanks a lot guys for re-directing the topic in the right direction.

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Let us adopt anyway possible to reach Brahman/Shivam/God.
OK? :-)

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Let us adopt anyway possible to reach Brahman/Shivam/God.

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Dear Viggop
Please excuse me for making a statement, that there is no "anyway" but only one way of reaching "Brahman/Shivam/God". That one way is Gnana. Krishna makes it clear in Gita, the one who reahces me is one who "knows me". The one who does not know me, does not know himself either.

Karma is performed by everyone...but it does not reach to brahman unless if one understands what the purpose of the action, it wont help him. This is the problem with mimamsa people. People who do rituals to reach God would not reach if they do not understand what it is meant for. Bhakthi people if do not know what this bhakthi is taking them to ...they will not reahc Brahman. Krishna in Gita says clearly that people who does karma or bhakthi are of four types. Some pray god only when they are in trouble or sorry. The next group does when they want material benefits. Another one asks God for understanding him. Only the wise prayer is a means to thank the same self that is one and the same.

Conclusion: Without knowing what we are seeking , we will always be lost.

http://sakthifoundation.org/purify.htm

please read the real incident in the above link.

Dear raghu and friends
sorry i had to side track to understand mahabhrata more clear. Look at vidhur, who sticks on his dharma, because of his gnanam. Vidhur is thus a perfect bhaktha too and so krishna stays with him durign the visit. Krishna teaches arjuna to do karma to get gnanam. This ultimate understanding should dawn in us and that is the very purpose of Vyasa to give us mahabhratam and also give gita. it is considered that the garland is MB and Gita is the pendant.

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Originally Posted by pradheep

Dear raghu and friends
sorry i had to side track to understand mahabhrata more clear. Look at vidhur, who sticks on his dharma, because of his gnanam. Vidhur is thus a perfect bhaktha too and so krishna stays with him durign the visit. Krishna teaches arjuna to do karma to get gnanam. This ultimate understanding should dawn in us and that is the very purpose of Vyasa to give us mahabhratam and also give gita. it is considered that the garland is MB and Gita is the pendant.

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Ok, Let's take another example , an example which is not talked much as this from Shribhavadam or Krishna Leelai, remeber Sudhaama a pure devotee of Lord Krishna, was his child hood friend, all sudhama knew was love of Lord Krishna and nothing else, was he not given moksham due to his bhakthi?

what do you mean by moksham that kuchela got....you mean the wealth he got after meeting his friend. krishna?

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Originally Posted by pradheep

what do you mean by moksham that kuchela got....you mean the wealth he got after meeting his friend. krishna?

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Dear Pradheep

NO NO, Lord Krishna had child hood friend called Sudhama, perhaps some one could clarify on this?

Raghu
Sudhaama is kuchelar.Kuchela in sanskrit means "one who weares tattered/torn clothes".Sudhaama got this nickname from his school(gurukulam) friends because he was wearning torn clothes as his family was poor.