Islamic Invasions ! Hindus Persecutions !

Surya, are the Hindutvas jealous that all the movie stars are muslims and have very high women fan following ?

It is not a coincidence that the Hindutva emerged the same time as these stars grew popular.

Pizzalot: pls edit your comments. Dont indulge in any personal attacks of this kind!

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Originally Posted by Hulk

BTW even if you want to really use violence...do it on those who committed those violence...not innocent people who have nothing to do with these fundamentalists.

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I agree...Use violence but with those guilty. It is deeply saddening to see innocents getting the same treatment which the guilty deserve. :(

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Originally Posted by Pizza

Surya, you know the life how it will be for a minority ?

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I lived in bangalore for a few years...it was swell. 8-)

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If the Hindu majority in India sneeze the minorities are gone forever. Imagine what a life they must be living, in fear 24 hours a day. I myself live abroad and if I could not make sure my daughter or son will come home back alive, what a life will I have ?

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So now Muslims are constantly living in fear in India because hindus are just raging psycopaths right? :roll: This seems to be a reflection of ur anti-hindu take on hinduism being intolerant.

Right! Muslims are scared...not sure if their kids will return home safely or not...thus things like Godhra and Opposing Ram Mandir in AYODHYA, Bombs in Kovai, occur so often! Good LOGIC!! :roll:

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It is always a minority who will have to resort to Guerilla tactics bacause their voices are not heard by the majority.

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So now...somehow....terrorism is understandalbe...because they're minorities? :banghead: Bombs exploding in Kovai on a normal day is understandable because a minority does it? :? :? What r u saying?! So being a minority is a qualification of being exempt from murder?

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Simply that is the way a civilized world works Surya. I believe you have not understood civics yet. What we say is what the civilized nations do with their women, children and minorities.

I know it is very hard for Hindutvas to understand civilization, but they must work hard on that.

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:lol: if sweeping the fundamentalism of minorities under the carpet because they are a minority means being civilized, then couldn't care less about being it. U can drown in ur own definitions of Civilised Culture, and theories Nazism and Iran....but sadly that's all they are...just ur own definition and Theories..which a few might share along with u. :wink: :P

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In any case, you know what is going to happen next ? The people in India will understand that the minorities are not the ones causing problems and that, it is the big overhead Hindutvas who are the real bandits Just as they understood it in South. Then they will be burnt and so on .. like the way it happened in medival Europe. India is a few hundred years behind Europe, but will catch-up very fast with greater public awareness.

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:lol: :roll: Whatever u say Nostradamus! :clap: :P

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If the Arab world closes its door on oil for a single day, Indian economy is gone. America will somehow get its oil. But not us. Remember that. Make sure you show a clean face to them. The NDA knows it all too well. That is why it projects its moderates.

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Here's a better Idea!! To impress the Arabs...why don't we burn all the hindus who don't convert to Islam?! That'll make India Saudi's little pet wouln't it?

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With South the increase in the South's appearance in the Center, I do not see any career for you in Hindutva Surya. Better be on the run !

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Don't base everyhting on TN...The number of members joining the RSS is increasing in Karnataka and Andra Pradesh. But we digress..Looking @ the turn of events, I suggest that you change ur name to ABDUL, or you'll be on the run also! :oops: :lol:

Reg Mogul Times:

A Minority of the population which had any sort of pride rebelled then....but the majourity preffered to eat their food and fall asleep, just like present day india. :(

Reg Hindhi Actors:

:rotfl: That just reflects ur own frustrations. :oops: Check ur sources..Hindutva has existed before Independence...Sadly once again, ur wierd theories which seem to be a result of some sort of mushroom, again doens't hold any water. :oops: Better luck next time! :thumbsup: :D

Keep it up with the Unheard of Theories though....Maybe U'll get a Hub Award for being Stoned! :thumbsup: :D

Can't we discuss the issue without getting into personal attacks please?
The Godhra carnage would have been the talk of the town had not there been such a wild unleash on part of the majority community. What needs to be understood here is that the attacks were aimed on India not Hinduism.

I have been in Coimbatore during the bombs blasts and in London during the recent train bomb blasts as well. Both the blasts were aimed at the respective nations, not on Hindus or Christians.

I lived for 20 yrs in Cbe and was right in the middle of it when the bomb blasts happened. The backlash that was unleashed by the majority was very severe. There was a huge loss to property (not to mention the lives that were lost) all Muslim businesses. There was no end to the rumor mills that worked day and night. The community had become very polarized. As a result the development has stalled in the city. When everyone expected the city to boom, it still stays how it was 8 yrs back.
It would have done better for the city, if the miscreants were caught and given appropriate punishment by the law of the state.

In sharp contrast, after the bomb blasts Londoners walked backed for miles as the tubes were completely shut off and there was no back leash by the majority community. There were some short term damages like drop in Tourism and such things, but no long term damage done.

Can't we learn from this? Instead of opting for damage control and damage prevention, what the Hindutva extremist do is indulge in more damage and create scenarios to induce more damage.

What Pizzalot missed to see is the fact that Hinduism is NOT HINDUTVA !

Hinduism as nothing to do with politics... Hinduism is a religion, a philosophy..

In secular state we separate religion and politics, so you should separate them pizzalot.. :roll:

A pretented Hindu calling Hinduism as beeing the most intolerant religion is for me hypocrisy.. So convert you in other religion pizzalot if you think that about Hinduism, i sincerely do not understand why you pretend to follow this religion...
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Is it not irony and hypocrisy ?... :roll:

Why temples and Buddha's statues are destructed in Afghanistan and in some part of Pakistan ?

Nothing to do with intolerance ? :roll:
What about this intolerance pizzalot ?

If it still continue today, just imagine the rate of destructions fews centuries before..

From about the 7 th century to now Hindus are beeing killed for their religion..

What the tolerance are you talking about pizzalot ?
Even my question will be why is there a big muslim minority in India ?

If Hindus were so intolerant i think there will have been a genocide of Muslims, but it is not the case.. Why pizzalot ?

Because of Hindu's intolerance ? Ha Ha Ha Ha !

Grow up before insulting this religion !

Pizzalot, the Sri lankan question as NOTHING to do with this genocide.

Tamils in Sri lanka are majoritarely Shaivists. There are too catholics and muslims..

The sri lankan problem is related to the Sinhala Buddhist chauvinism and i think it has nothing to do with Hinduism. Please do not try to mix and please come again to the thread.

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Originally Posted by pizzalot

I do not understand how these cowards who lived under the unbrella of Muslim rulers for 1000 years all of sudden became courageous after they have all gone ?

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Good question!

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Originally Posted by alwarpet_andavan

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Originally Posted by pizzalot

I do not understand how these cowards who lived under the unbrella of Muslim rulers for 1000 years all of sudden became courageous after they have all gone ?

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Good question!

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Insecurity may be.

Hello Friends

I am visiting the FH after a long time; and it is good to be back.

Since, this thread is one of the most actively and hotly debated topics in the Indian History & Culture Forum; I thought let me take the opportunity to reintroduce myself here. I hope I haven't disturbed the curly flow the discussion. :D

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Originally Posted by pizzalot

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Originally Posted by Eelavar

Not forcebily !

Indians in America were largely the MAJORITY !!
Like Hindus were the majority when Muslims invaded without pause and stop India.

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Genocide comes from the word Genos (which means family,tribe or race) + Cide (which is termination or killing). So you must be able to clearly define who the affected party is if you want us to proceed further. "Geno" has an element of genetics and bilogical origin to it. What it does not have is "religion", "belief", "culture","goodness" etc which the beginning of this thread was all about. You can call the killing based on religion with any other word, but not Genocide.

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Dear Pizzalot

Below is the UNO definition of genocide, adopted by Resolution 260 (III) A of the United Nations General Assembly on 9 December 1948; and it does include religious group. I am afraid, your understanding of genocide seems to be flawed and erroneous.

Article 2
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

Source:
http://www.hrweb.org/legal/genocide.html