The Greatest Indian Epic - Mahabharath

Dear Viggop
Thanks, correct kucela and sudhama are one and the same. So we have to understand what moksha, dharma, karma to understand mahabharat (viceversa true). So raghu , let us discuss what moksha means that we can get out of the confusion about these different margas.

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Originally Posted by viggop

Raghu
Sudhaama is kuchelar.Kuchela in sanskrit means "one who weares tattered/torn clothes".Sudhaama got this nickname from his school(gurukulam) friends because he was wearning torn clothes as his family was poor.

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Thanks Viggop, sorry I did not know that :oops:

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Originally Posted by sbadri99

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thanks sbadri

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Originally Posted by pradheep

Dear Viggop
Thanks, correct kucela and sudhama are one and the same. So we have to understand what moksha, dharma, karma to understand mahabharat (viceversa true). So raghu , let us discuss what moksha means that we can get out of the confusion about these different margas.

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Dear Pradheep

In gita it is clearly(IN MY VIEWS, PLS ACCEPT MY APPLOGIES, IF I AM WRONG) that self realisation is something and moksha is another thing, but self realistaion leads one to enquire about the philosophy of life, which in turn leads one to enquire about Mukti.

In gita (i shall put the verses, tomorrow) it states that to attain mukti, one must understand he/she is not his/her body these are perishable only the atma which is parts and parcels of paramatma is eternal, this is self realisation, once this is realised, one must give his/her full attention to Paramatma known as Isa by bhakthi ONLY towards Isa(which later evolved around to be Maha Iswar/Eshwar), this is the only way atma(soul) is liberated with Isa the ultimate truth, supreme personality of God head, Maha Iswar.

what is your view, pradheep?

Dear Raghu
You are correct...but a little clarification needed when you say.......

bhakthi ONLY towards Isa(which later evolved around to be Maha Iswar/Eshwar.

what do you mean by Bhakthi, "later evolved" and Maha-Iswar (Shiva or Brahman?).

With this we will be back to MBH.

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Originally Posted by pradheep

Dear Raghu
You are correct...but a little clarification needed when you say.......

bhakthi ONLY towards Isa(which later evolved around to be Maha Iswar/Eshwar.

what do you mean by Bhakthi, "later evolved" and Maha-Iswar (Shiva or Brahman?).

With this we will be back to MBH.

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Dear Pradheep

In Raja vedas and Git Isa is known as Maha Iswar or Maheshwar :D

Dear Raghu
You still have not made it clear whether you mean Shiva here or Brahman by the name Maheshwar.

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Originally Posted by pradheep

Dear Raghu
You still have not made it clear whether you mean Shiva here or Brahman by the name Maheshwar.

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Dear Pradheep

I meant Shiva

hence the saying

'Guru Bhrama(your origin), Guru Vishnu(the period you are alive in this material world), Guru Devo Maheshwara(the end of Mundane life, Moksha is ONLY attained at this stage)

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I meant Shiva

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Dear Raghu
Do you mean Shiva (form) with a jada-mudi, snake on his neck or a formless Shivam?