Favorite Scenes/Songs from THALAIVAR Rajini films #3

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Originally Posted by groucho070

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Originally Posted by Plum

Seriously, I would definitely like Rajni to do what Amitabh is doing now ( I mean in films, not the jatti viLambarams that Amit-ji stars in) and shut the north indies' mouth for ever that "only Amitji" can do such roles.

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Amen to that, brother. Put his heart and mind to it, he can blow any NI Jis out of the screen!!! :twisted:

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plum/Grouch,

Yes.. I too want the same as i have said in my prev post.. but how many like us are there is the major question..
and yes, his career has come to a stage he should not play only to the gallery..

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Originally Posted by AudazJay

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Originally Posted by hamid

Plum,

if that is what you want to infer I dont have problems with that.. :lol:

anyway let me try to put it clear...

1. Did Fans didnt really force him to change path?
2. what will his position be if he hasnt changed his path?
3. Is that a right decision?

IMO Even if he hasnt changed his path he would have been successful and will be a bigger star
(bigger than Kamal or not - maybe or maybe not..but he wont be far from Kamal.. thats for sure.. but, donot make this as the point of argument.. I afraid only hate discussion will start then.. )

One important reason for making this point as a Rajini fan is.. the argument put against him most of the time is he is just a mass actor.. he cant act in so called class films.. and the worst part is he(rajini) himself expressses that in public..

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That's his humility talking sar!

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Audaz,

yes, it is humility. but is that only humility? i think it is time to ask that question..

I personally think Rajni took things as they came. He could have continued to be what he was before he became a superstar but I wonder if he had a career path in mind at all.

One thing that characterises Kamal is his ambition to make certain films that match his sensibiltiies and taste. Rajni doesnt sound or look like he ever had those ambitions. There was this burning desire to become an actor, and from there whatever comes seems to have been his motto.

At some point, more than the fans, self serving producers and financiers might have fed this superstar image and it probably grew beyond his control. Also, his avoidance of political confrontations speak of a man who wants to live his own life peacefully with whatever comes.

I wish and hope that somehow this fan following melts away and he is forced to reinvent himself as an actor.

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Originally Posted by hamid

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Originally Posted by AudazJay

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Originally Posted by hamid

Plum,

if that is what you want to infer I dont have problems with that.. :lol:

anyway let me try to put it clear...

1. Did Fans didnt really force him to change path?
2. what will his position be if he hasnt changed his path?
3. Is that a right decision?

IMO Even if he hasnt changed his path he would have been successful and will be a bigger star
(bigger than Kamal or not - maybe or maybe not..but he wont be far from Kamal.. thats for sure.. but, donot make this as the point of argument.. I afraid only hate discussion will start then.. )

One important reason for making this point as a Rajini fan is.. the argument put against him most of the time is he is just a mass actor.. he cant act in so called class films.. and the worst part is he(rajini) himself expressses that in public..

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That's his humility talking sar!

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Audaz,

yes, it is humility. but is that only humility? i think it is time to ask that question..

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If you're questioning about his capabilities of being a "Class Actor" then I beg to differ with your remarks. IMO, he has always been a class actor from his earlier days right...more than being a class actor, he's been a star who stands apart from all the other actors..

Name me one actor who could have done the role of Chakravathy of Netrikann as well as Rajni did? Which actor has the innocence of Padikathavan Rajini, the calmness of Sri Ragavendra, the wittiness of Indran, the style of Padayappa or the fire of Thalapathy? Coming to think of it, even in the worst film, Rajini has manage to bring out a class acting from his side.

I can picturise him doing a lot of roles donned previously by other actors and yet I know that he would be able to carry those roles in his own style... but try as I might, I could never imagine any other actors doing justice to the roles that Rajini has done...at least not in the way Rajini has.

Hamid/AudazJay,
When it's not clear to anyone (it certainly isn't to me!) what a "class actor" (or a "class film") even means, I think we should just not use it. :)

What I find quite perplexing here is the almost schizophrenic nature of the discourse. On the one hand, a lot of people here undoubtedly enjoy several Rajini films, and on the other hand, there's a constant invocation of the "other" Rajini of the yore (late 70s and early 80s on and off) implying that he used to do "serious cinema" back then. It seems there's a sense of anxiety with respect to Rajini's stature as a "serious" actor which I think is totally unwarranted. Is it even a matter of debate that the Rajini phenomenon is about something else, or at any rate not really about his being a "serious actor?" I mean, the discussion somehow gets narrowed down to some handful of films. Outside Mahendran and KB, most of these films are not even worth talking about.

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Originally Posted by Plum

hamid, konjam explicit-A sollunga. adhAvadhu, commercial path edukkalainA, class acting-layum kamal-ai minji iruppArnu solla varIngaLA? Depending on your response, we'll get Thirumaran to respond to you :-)

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Adha thaan avaru establish panraaru (whatever the different terms 'class acting' , 'school acting' mean) :lol:

Kamal and Rajini

Kamal - Nadipil, ivaroda humbleness - Yaridamum illai.


Rajini - oru gambeeram, oru gethu - idhu - Yar kitayum ilai....

16 vayadhinilae


Kamal character ai Rajini seiya mudiyadhu.....

andha vegulithanam - Kamaloda royalty

adhe padathil,

Rajinin thmiri, nakkal (iva aaatha ku thavani potta kuda...)

solli sirikra gethu - idhu - Rajiniyoda Royalty


Kamal and Rajini - comparison - miga thavarana seyal....

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Originally Posted by Plum

I personally think Rajni took things as they came. He could have continued to be what he was before he became a superstar but I wonder if he had a career path in mind at all.

One thing that characterises Kamal is his ambition to make certain films that match his sensibiltiies and taste. Rajni doesnt sound or look like he ever had those ambitions. There was this burning desire to become an actor, and from there whatever comes seems to have been his motto.

At some point, more than the fans, self serving producers and financiers might have fed this superstar image and it probably grew beyond his control. Also, his avoidance of political confrontations speak of a man who wants to live his own life peacefully with whatever comes.

I wish and hope that somehow this fan following melts away and he is forced to reinvent himself as an actor.

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plum,

intresting points.. though not fully, I agree with you on major points..

yes, Rajini doesnt sound or look like he ever had those ambitions..

There are 2 different things here..

1. career path - I agree with you on this..
2. kind of roles - I partially disagree on this.. Yes. he doesnt seem to have an ambition.. but he had a liking.. he even hinted about that at the fan meet.

He seem to be a man who is easily convinced. maybe.. that is one reason for the change..

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Originally Posted by AudazJay

If you're questioning about his capabilities of being a "Class Actor" then I beg to differ with your remarks. IMO, he has always been a class actor from his earlier days right...more than being a class actor, he's been a star who stands apart from all the other actors..
Name me one actor who could have done the role of Chakravathy of Netrikann as well as Rajni did? Which actor has the innocence of Padikathavan Rajini, the calmness of Sri Ragavendra, the wittiness of Indran, the style of Padayappa or the fire of Thalapathy? Coming to think of it, even in the worst film, Rajini has manage to bring out a class acting from his side.

I can picturise him doing a lot of roles donned previously by other actors and yet I know that he would be able to carry those roles in his own style... but try as I might, I could never imagine any other actors doing justice to the roles that Rajini has done...at least not in the way Rajini has.

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Audaz,

Completely agree with you entire post. esp the bolded ones :cool:

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Originally Posted by hamid

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Originally Posted by Plum

( I mean in films, not the jatti viLambarams that Amit-ji stars in)

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One more question which is in my mind for a long time.

Why Rajini and Kamal havent acted in any ads so far? ( I do remember long back Rajini acted in an ad which explains about Polio.. that cannot be categorized as ad IMO..)

Almost all the smaller stars except them act in ads and endorse products in TFI.

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Kamal came in some HIV awareness ads and a few other i guess..