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AFAIK, my one and only concern is very, very selfish - it is that, whatever IR does should not in anyway affect his output - I want to listen to more of his repertoire, creativity, and the only way that can happen, is when he gets new challenging projects, which is dependent on how he embraces all the things, he appears to be shunning! his comments abt 'plastic music' 'thagara dappa music' dont matter to me, if they dont matter to the ppl they are directed against! its his music tat matters to me
though i am not that aware of other issues thar raja_fan has raised, i am aware of this one episode and i felt it wasnt right. Honestly, i felt IR shld have refrained from making this comment.Quote:
Originally Posted by raja_fan
Yeah, instead of writing one's argument and counter arguments, let us all wish and pray that IR gets few more challenging assignment with a renowned group/director so that his musical output is discussed more and not his conflicts and extraneous expressions. Unfortunately his thalaivaazhai saapadu has never come our way so far in the last 15-18 years since he proclaimed it to us. Let him start a new phase in his career so that his musical output is placed along the lines of Beethoven, Bach and a few geniuses who have stood the test of time.
I dont know why you guys keep fighting on how IR behaves or says and his character and other stuff not related to music. I think i already said this before, he is what he is. Is he eccentric? yes most geniuses are. Does he talk strange stuff and bring up unrelated stuff during speeches? yes that is also part of his eccentricity. Does he oscillate between spiritual stuff and other modern discussion? yes its part of his makeup. That is the reason he does not attend many functions and gives any speeches. WE all know this for many years now. Lets not waste time discussing about this. Lets focus on his music. I agree with irir123 on him getting challenging projects, but he is not at the stage of his career where he will change his approach to certain things and start doing stuff differently. He has composed music for so many films now and he will continue in his own way as far as projects go. Maybe things would have been different if he came up during the current generation but he is old school on certain things and sticks to that. My only hope is that he focusses on non film music as well and comes up with some creative albums. Maybe his close friends in the industry like Kamal or SPB can motivate him in this regard.
finally my 2 cents on the Padma Bhushan award for IR. I think its a great honor for him but my only crib is that in my opinion they should not have given the same award to ARR and IR in the same year. I dont know how this happened. ARR already has a Padma Shri and while he certainly deserves this award too , but there is time left in his career to get this award and more since he is young enough. for me its a little akward seeing a veteren like IR and his next generation MD ARR getting this award at the same time. Just my opinion.
for all the hype and hoopla abt AGI music having copyrights of all IR related music released before 2000, I see that several of his albums are actually available on iTUNES under the label SAREGAMA!!
this is exactly what i have been saying about the messy label/copyright issues related to IR's music and his own hand in all of this!
yeah..
E music sells some nice collections too. They carry labels like INRECO.
http://www.emusic.com/album/Various-.../11456111.html
http://www.emusic.com/album/Various-.../11033331.html
http://www.emusic.com/album/Ilayaraa.../10917410.html
http://www.emusic.com/album/Ilayaraa.../10907110.html
http://www.emusic.com/composer/Ilaya.../11645326.html
http://www.emusic.com/album/Isai-Gna.../11080504.html
http://www.emusic.com/album/Various-.../11081132.html
vinatha.
I recall my meeting with a top man in SS Music. IR had told some great things about MSV.....the next day he called them and asked them to delete that portion.....Yes..yes..this is glorification....Quote:
Originally Posted by vel
When there so many ways to curb piracy and stuff, people are just not prepared to open their ears and eyes....there are ways to do it..
All of us know why IR didnt release his symphony and it was because of a price problem with Pyramid....summa inda piracy reason ellam agree panna mudiyadu Raaja sir....
Why doesnt he release symphony just like that just for the music fans ? He wont.....thani ulagam da sami
Please read my post again.Quote:
Countless times he has glorified MSV to a embarassing limit.
I have never said IR has no humility or respect over others.
What I said is he is almost always self-contradicting - moving from one extreme of humility to another extreme of head full of pride !
As long as people continue to glorify and justify everything that IR speaks, my humble service will continue here :)
He created the symphony in 1993 and after 17 years, he complains of piracy as the reason for not releasing it !
Rasigargal panatthai vaangi Thiruvasagam seidha podhu mattum indha kavalai avarukku vara villai...
yen ? adhu thaan avar panam illai enbadhaalaa ?
This is a arachu maavu statement. Do you expect him to score for free and let mongers go sell it? Either come out with concrete facts and numbers or stop making fictitious statements. I even told the local (in US) responsible folks, to create a page and list people who contributed and how much they contributed. This will serve as self verification. Nothing was done.Quote:
Originally Posted by raja_fan
Agree with the piracy statement of IR - confusing and contradicting.
Raaja.com published a letter which said IR wanted us to give a commitment that we wud buy original cd if he released an album and i guess it was related to music messaih.....it was not planned..
today wat is required is simple planning of ir albums and the basic thing is sales and marketing....even today i am telling this
Say: have 5000 people register for the album...u have ur rate fixed..COLLECT THE MONEY AND RELEASE THE ALBUM......
When you dont know why he asked those things to be deleted, you cannot come to any conclusion whatsoever. Since you seem to be a popular person with SS music, check again with your "top man at SS music" and educate us all on the reason wny IR wanted something to be deleted.Quote:
Originally Posted by kameshratnam
And symphone release panna mattum original CD'aa vaangida poreenga? Chumma oru rendu music store poyittu, enakku CD kidaikalainnu MP3 thiruduveenga...
appadi illa maa...Prior to thiruvasagam, he was scared of music illiterates (i wont call them critics) commenting carelessly of the product. So he was hurt. Post thiruvasagam, he would have learnt that even if you give a great musical output like thiruvasagam, most makkal adhaiyum thirudi thaan thinbaargal..kaasu koduthu vaanga maattan...so piracy is a fear he got after the thiruvasagam episode where MP3 files were freely available all over the net...so even if MP3 penetration was driven due to distribution mistake, teaming up with Agi could only be seen as his learning from his mistake of partnering with the wrong people.Quote:
Originally Posted by raja_fan
First and foremost why shd he even ask those things to be deleted. The person didnt want to ask him since IR said it and put down the phone.Quote:
Originally Posted by vel
Vel: U better mind ur language..i too know how to talk and i can be rude too....my 2 cents... i need not prove to the world or u that i buy original cds of IR......
I stick to what i said..there is nothing wrong in my language..if you use illegal mp3 (which you do), then you are stealing. See below your post regarding music messaih CD.
Quote:
Originally Posted by kameshratnam
Yes. even i now i maintain it....if the cds are not available, then i will to go to MP3..i am a consumer...i will go and seek them only at accessible places to me..
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vel - its a simple sappai matter - for 'thiruvasagam', all IR had to do was pick up the phone and get hold of Sony or BMG agent, thrash out a deal, release it through them, and today TiS wud have been available in every patti, thotti, and outlets all over the world, in airports, in malls - not only that, the reach would have been so vast, that several projects wud have easily happened following that, and with such market reach/command, he cud have easily commanded/demanded contract deals equivalent to what others are getting - but instead, he chose the most crazy means of making appeals to fans to buy original CDs and associated with some priest for this most ambitious (at least at that time, it was) project ! ? and that man later went around throwing muck on IR and the whole thing got mired in ugly waters - when all these cud have been easily avoided by taking the time-tested route of having proper business deals/agreements! i guess 'vinnaithaandi varuvaaya' was released by Sony - so why not TiS ? andha level business sense koodavaa ivarukku illaaama pocchu ??Quote:
Originally Posted by vel
there are many instances in which his original CDs are not available even if we went looking for them online - he wants everything to happen, the way he snaps his fingers, tats the problem - but when in reality, whats required is some plan/logistics to take care of things which are all well-handled by companies that are in the business since a long time
but beyond all of this, he will make statements and behave as if he is gods chosen one, and everyone shd come to him - but tats not the way the world works - i still recall when he told in another instance how ppl with ears for good music will go in search of it!! so tats what he expects ppl to do - have cds released in chennai which will disappear in a few weeks and then makkals get tired of searching, and instead settle for Mp3s or some other music!