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Good one Madhu!
About the philosophical meaning of Ashwathama character.
Why was Ashwathama devoid of mother's milk?
I think Kripi(sister of Kripacharya) was the wife of Drona.
Also , who curses Lord Krishna that his yadava clan will be wiped out? Is it Kunthi or Gandhari?
That was Gandhari. There's another reason for the extinction of the Yadhava Kulam. After Krishna the Yadhavas are so proud, they are blinded. They just drank, and partied, drank and partied etc. One day there are some Rishis doing a Yaagam and the Yadhavas are completly drunk. They decide to mess around with the Rishies so they dress one of the Yadhavas as a Pregnant Woman and disturb the Rishis Thabas. The Rishi knows what's going on due to Nyana Dhristi, but still remains calm. The Yadhavas are presistent in their annoying behavior and finally the Rishi, now pushed to his limits curses,Quote:
Originally Posted by viggop
"Ivanukku oru irumbu thoon pirakkum, antha thoon un Kulathai azhikkum!"
Meaning, He will give birth to a huge iron piller and that pillar will destroy the Yadhava Kula.
The Yadhavas don't take this seriously, and finally leave, on their way to the Palace, one of the Yadhavas starts getting contractions, and very painfully, gives birth to an iron pillar! The other Yadhavas now petrified decide that they can't let the piller excist, because the curse stated that it will destroy the Yadhavas. So they somehow grind it up and rid it in the middle of the ocean. After a few days the waves bring the iron powder to the shore, (that's why u can still find metal on the beaches with a Magnet) This powder some how fertilizes a certain area of the beach, and huge thorn weeds start growing. Later, as usual the Yadhavas are drinking and messing around with each other, when one of them gets pushed into the thorn bush, and hurts his arm. Now enraged, he breaks one of the branches off, and uses it as a weapon against the individual that pushed him down, now this guy does the same, and it turns into a huge fight, and eventually leads to the demise of the Yadhavs.
Regards. 8)
Here is an interesting information,
When the Agneya weapon, "a blazing missile of smokeless fire" is unleashed by the hero Adwattan in mahabaratha war,
"Birds croaked madly...the very elements seemed disturbed. The sun seemed to waver in the heavens. The earth shook, scorched by the terrible violent heat of this weapon. Elephants burst into flame and ran to and fro in a frenzy...over a vast area, other animals crumpled to the ground and died. From all points of the compass the arrows of flame rained continuously and fiercely."
" An incandescent column of smoke and flame as bright as the thousand suns rose in all its splendour...An iron thunderbolt, a gigantic messenger of death, which reduced to ashes the entire race of the Vrishnis and the Andhakas....The corpses were so burned as to be unrecognizable. The hair and nails fell out; pottery broke without apparent cause, and the birds turned white....After a few hours all foodstuffs were infected.... To escape from this fire, the soldiers threw themselves in streams to wash themselves and their equipment..."
- The Mahabharata
Observers feel these descriptions suggest an atomic war!
"When the Rishi City of Mohenjodaro was excavated by archaeologists in the last century, they found skeletons just lying in the streets, some of them holding hands, as if some great doom had suddenly overtaken them. These skeletons are among the most radioactive ever found, on a par with those found at Hiroshima and Nagasaki."
"Futhermore, at Mohenjo-Daro, a well planned city laid on a grid, with a plumbing system superior to those used in Pakistan and India today, the streets were littered with 'black lumps of glass'. These globs of glass were discovered to be clay pots that had melted under intense heat! "
- D. Hatcher Childress, "Ancient Indian Aircraft Technology"
In The Anti-Gravity Handbook
No, it was Ankaraj Karna who was appointed as the commander in Chief, Aswathama got appointed after Karna diesQuote:
Originally Posted by viggop
it was Ghandari, she curses Lord Krishna in Kurusheshtra, after seeing al the corpses and the mourning of the widowsQuote:
Originally Posted by viggop
More or less, the greatest warriors of Kauravas, Like Bhishmar, Guru Drona and Ankaraj Karna were killed in an adharma war, esp Karna, Lord Krishna deprived Karna of his powers in 7 deceitful ways.
1) Send Indran to Deprive his Kavasa Kunadalas
2) Get Kunti to ask Karna uses his Naha Ashthira only once at Arjuna
3) Karna's Chariot wheel get stuck in the earth, during the battle, due to some curse by a bhramin
4) Vows to Kunti, that he will not kill any other pandavas , but Arjuna, later Karna
Defeats all 4 Pandavas and grants their life
5) Lord Krishna Pushes Arjuna's chariot, ask Karna Fires the Nahasthira, so it only takes Arjuna's Crown
6) Curse by Parashuram, as Karna lies,and pretends to be a brahman to learn Archery from the great Acharya.
7) Lord Krishna Makes Karna use an Asthiram on Gadotgaja (Bhima' son), which Karna reserved for Arjuna
any thing else, I missed?
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I think Karna was trying to pass over as a brahmin to some guru.But,Krishna takes the form of a scorion and keeps on biting him when the guru sleeps on Karna's lap.Blood gushes forth but Karna bears the severe pain so as not to wake up his guru.After the guru wakes up and asks Karna the reason for so much blood.When Karna tells him the reason,he immediately knows that Karna cannot be a brahmin because brahmins cannot withstand that much pain as they are not strong people.Only a person from Kshatriya class(royal lineage) can withstand it and curses Karna for lying.
Also, remember that the above incident takes place long before the war has even started.So,Krishna being the suthradari(one who is cause of everything),comes as a scorpion even then knowing fully what will happen in the future.
Krishna also comes as a brahmin and asks Karna for all his good karma as otherwise the soul does not leave the body.Even when he is dying,karna grants it to him.
One interesting thing about Krishna pushing the chariot down when the Nagaasthra is about to kill Arjuna.Krishna could have easily done it even when Karna sends his asthram.But,Arjuna had ego that it would not do anything and he could destroy the weapon using his prowess alone.
All his weapons fails to stop the Naga Astra and only then he asks Krishna for his help.
The moral behind this is that Lord demands total devotion,total surrender onto him.If there is a slight ego which makes us think "we" ,"I" can do anything,then he'll prove it to you that even an atom cannot move without HIS will.
Another story to support this is when Draupadi is being disrobed.She is full of arrogance and never calls to Krishna.She tries to protect her "Body" associating her atma with this body.atma is undying and this body is just a clothe for it for some time.Finally,draupadi lets go of her association with her body and reveals her breasts and prays to Krishna with both hands beseeching HIM.
**ONLY** then,Krishna saves her honour.
that was rishi ParashuramQuote:
Originally Posted by viggop
Can someone tell me the story behind Karna's wheel getting stuck because of a curse during the battle?