which Raghu are you talking about Viggop, kali Yuga Raghu(me) or Satya Yuga Raghu :lol:Quote:
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which Raghu are you talking about Viggop, kali Yuga Raghu(me) or Satya Yuga Raghu :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by viggop
Found an interesting read on Dasaratha.
Here it is:
Dasaratha
Dasaratha, the ten chariot king represents the human body with the five senses of perception and five senses of action. He had three wives representing three Gunas or disposition, Satwa, Rajas and Tamas- named Kausalya, Sumitra and Kaikeyi. He had four sons, who embodied in themselves the four goals of human life, Dharma, Artha, Kama and Moksha. Rama is the very embodiment of Dharma. The other three goals can be achieved only by steady adherence to Dharma. We find, therefore, the brothers Lakshmana, Bharatha and Shatrughna following the footsteps of Rama.
Selfishness lives by getting and forgetting. In this context, Dasaratha is a perfect example of one who had taken the path of Truth. He also had a title of Sathya Parakrama. There was also another title for Dasaratha, i.e., one who was bound by Dharma. Atirathi was another title for him and this meant one who could give happiness to a large extent. He was also called a Rajarishi. A king and yet a Rishi (sage) shining with brightness because of the several great qualities in him. He was taking the support and advice of eight ministers of his kingdom. These eight persons were such that they always practiced the highest Dharma. The last one of these eight persons was Sumantara. He had also accepted two sages Vasishta and Vamadeva as his Gurus. In Dasaratha daily life, he was guided by these two gurus as his purohits. In addition, when Dasaratha had some doubts or when he found that the people’s prosperity was being obstructed or when he wanted some advice, he also retained six people as his principal advisors.
The first among these six people was Suyagna, the others included Jabali, Kasyapa, Pascheya, Markandeya and Gautama. Dasaratha was ruling the whole of Bharath. There was no injustice, there was no untruth, there was no crime in the whole of Bharath during his rule.
The rule of that day was such that Dasaratha looked into the prosperity of the people. If we look at the situation in some depth and try to understand the significance and the inner meaning, we could note that man has got five working organs and five sensory organs. Altogether he has got ten Indriyas (senses). Dasaratha literally means the human body which has got five working organs and five sensory organs. Dasaratha symbolises this charioteer of the human body which has got ten organs. Dasaratha also attracted three Gunas (qualities) in the form of Kausalya, Sumitra and Kaikeyi.
The four Purusharthas, Dharma, Artha, Kama and Moksha are symbolised by Dasaratha’s four sons. Dasaratha was one who proclaimed such a significant inner meaning to the world and he urged the people to lead an ideal life.
There will be echo and a reflection for all that we do. For this, a good example was demonstrated by Dasaratha. On one occasion when he was young, he went for hunting in the forest. While he was waiting at a spot during the night, he heard some sounds and being an expert hunter, he could locate the object by the direction of the sound. He shot an arrow in the direction of the sound and soon he found that the arrow which he shot had killed the son of a Rishi (sage). He felt very sorry and he took the dead body to the father of the boy and requested that he be pardoned. When the Rishi (sage) realized that his son was dead, he was steeped in sorrow and was weeping with the dead body by his side.
In his agony, the sage cursed Dasaratha and said that for this sin, he would suffer in a similar manner and die when his son was not near him. Dasaratha recognised that whatever one does, the consequences will be inevitable and unavoidable. Dasaratha purified himself by telling himself that he must suffer the consequences for the sin he had committed. He realised that sorrow is something which comes and goes and he set an example to the world by his own life.
When Dasaratha realised that he was growing old, and that his strength and vitality were diminishing, he showed to the world that he should no longer undertake the task of being a ruler. One night during his sleep, he felt thirsty and he took out water to drink. But he found that when he was pouring water from the jug into the tumbler, his hands were shaking. He did not sleep that night at all. As soon as the day dawned, he sent for the Gurus Vasishta and Vamadeva. He told the Gurus that the vitality and the strength of his organs had diminished and, therefore, he could not rule the country. He requested them to make all preparations to install Rama on the throne.
Here he established the truth that an individual who has no control over his own organs had no right to rule over the country. In the matter of ruling over the country, Dasaratha realised the proper code of conduct for the king, and the proper code of conduct for the people. Whoever the individual may be, however great he may be, he must recognise the condition around him and must adjust himself to the surroundings. But in certain instances in Ramayana, especially when Rama was going to the forest, it had been said that Dasaratha could not bear the sorrow and that he fell down in a swoon. Here also Dasaratha was proclaiming that such sorrows are incidental and they come because of our relationship and attachment to the human body.
Sorrows and difficulties come half-way in our life, and they are not natural to us. Because Dasaratha understood this truth, he could bless Rama when he was about to go to the forest. He could bless Rama not to have any difficulties in the forest, and that he should come back quickly and happily. This is the blessing which he gave because he knew the situation. Rama was adhering to the truth at all times and because of these qualities, he did not have any problems in the forest. Rama was an ideal son. It is only when the sons take to the right path good will come to the parents.
To establish the truth of such statements to the world, it was Dasaratha who told Rama in Ramayana, "Go to the forest for the sake of adhering to the truth". Dasaratha had no kind of attachment and he had the ability to discriminate between the right and wrong. He was not an ignorant person. Dasaratha recognised that all attachments are only relationships between one body and another and such is a purely worldly attachment. On one occasion when the sage Durvasa visited Vasishta. Dasaratha was asking him for the chronology of his own dynasty. Dasaratha put the question to Durvasa with a view of finding out whether his family would uphold truth and Dharma.
At that time, Durvasa told Dasaratha that the sons he was going to have would be the embodiments of Dharma, and that they would protect Truth and would have several good qualities. From that day, he was thinking that even if he had only one son, that could satisfy him provided that his son would bring him reputation and glory.
Nice post a.r.
In Hinduism,i read that we are allowed to pursue artha and kama.Artha means materialistic pleasures and kama means love.But,to go after artha and kama,we should have first mastered dharma.
i.e.,quest of artha and kama should be pursued on dharmic ways only.We should not aspire to get materialistically rich by cheating other people,accepting bribes etc but through hardwork(dharmic way).We should not allow kama to corrupt our minds.Only kama allowed is between husband and wife(dharma)
Finally, all the 3,kara,artha and dharma does not mean we can attain moksha.The final quest is for moksha and that will ensure we are released from cycle of birth and death
An interesting note that I have read comes to mind:
Dharma Artha Kama Moksha has been placed in that order to consider the following grouping:
Dharma-Artha
Kama-Moksha
meaning Artha (wealth) earned through Dharmic means and Desire (kama) for Moksha
I heard that Dasaratha had 60,000 (arupathinaayiram) Wifes.
Is it true? If Dasaratha had lived 100 years, he would had
lived 36500 days less than the number of wifes. Please argue
these facts too.
Dear Sudhama Sir
Very Kind and affectionate request, pls sir take this topic in the Right direction, I think we are not discussing ins structured manner, we start with some thing and before that finish, we talk some thing else, like you said sir, we should Concentrate on Lord Rama first.
pls participate sir.
thanks
Another copy and paste
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The Avatara as Rama has been extolled as the model of perfection for us humans to follow and emulate. He is an AdarSa-purusha (Model for Emulation). In fact he is called a suvrata -- one who has the best vows, the best character, the best behaviour. The word vrata, in Sanskrit, indicates a fundamental way of life from which one does not swerve. That His vrata is great, good, unexcelled, is what suvrata says. Rama’s vrata was five-fold: To give protection to all those who sought his refuge; To abide strictly by the promised words of the father and mother; to be responsible, as a king, to the people of his kingdom even at the cost of his own personal comfort; to be totally unperturbed in the most adverse of circumstances; and never to flaunt his real (divine) stature which was always hidden behind his human exterior. This five-fold vrata was so excellently and so exemplarily pursued by him throughout his life that even after several millenia, his very name itself is Divinity personified in the entire Hindu world. This is the PERFECTION aspect of God.
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Dear Mr. Raghu,
// Dear Sudhama Sir... Very Kind and affectionate request, pls sir take this topic in the Right direction, I think we are not discussing ins structured manner, we start with some thing and before that finish, we talk some thing else, like you said sir, we should Concentrate on Lord Rama first... pls participate sir.//
Thanks for remembering me. and inviting to join... Yes it is my duty.
For your information... .. I am with you all in the same dais.. by frequent viewing.
And Happy to note some valuable postings by our Friends ... quite. interesting ... although along with my persistent Grievance as you said.
Now I resume my part... on the Great Exemplary Model-Human Rama... further to the BEAUTIFUL, DEEP-MEANINGFUL Posting of Mr. Viggop.
Message of RAMAYANA for HUMANITY Eternally!!!
Ramayana is a Pre-written DRAMA.. as visualised by the Sage Valmiki...
... as per which all the Characters...SUBSEQUENTLY .. play their Role sincerely.
... unlike any other Literature or Epic in the World.
All the sensible Human-beings, want to earnestly adhere to Code of Humanity...
... as ordained by the Moral-Doctrines towards Earthly-Life.
.. as well as .... by the Commandments of our Scriptures...
... and further conforming to the Guidelies laid out by our Great Elders
But in course of life... he finds it different..hence starts questioning himself / herself
(1) In practical-Life... how far they are applicable?.. Are they just Theories only?
(2)What are all the challenges... obstructions or Hurdles one may come across in Life?
(3) How to face them... and find Practical-Solutions.... What are they?
(4) When a Man (Person) is placed in Embarassing-Situation by the dint of Clash between two or more Ideologies or Principles of Equal importance... which one should be deemed preferable? Why?
(5) What is the GREATEST HAPPINESS in Life?
(6) Which one should be the Supreme Success in Man's (Mankind) Life?
(7) What is the Ultimate-Goal in Life.?.. Is a King an exception?
(8) Which are the Ante-forces hidden within Man.. ditch him / her towards his Failures or Sufferings or Sins ?
(9) What is the Purpose of Birth on Earth as Human-being named as the Supreme-Creature?
Practical and Simple Answers... for all these Questions... in the form of a True Drama ... is called Ramayana.
Dear Sudhama sir, here are answers to some of your question, pls pardon me, if I am wrong
Self Realisation, to realise, you are not this body but an atma migrating from body to body,just as baby grows into toddler, then into kid, then to young man, then to an adult and reach old age and finaly perish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sudhaama
The body you have is given according to your poorve genma karma and your next body is calculated upon your current karma, only way out of this is by attaining mukthi, by pure devotion to Maha Iswar(supreme personality of God head), this involves seperation from this Maya materialistic world
If this is realised , and understood that this body is perishable only the Atma and the Paramatma are REAL, you would attain real happiness, you will be free from material (Maya) hapiness and sadness
Attaining MutkthiQuote:
Originally Posted by Sudhaama
Self realistaion finaly leading to salvationQuote:
Originally Posted by Sudhaama
Ego, selfishness, Ignorance, greed,lustQuote:
Originally Posted by Sudhaama
Human life's purpose is to realise and understand the spiritual platform, when a human does not realise he becomes an animal and indulge in material pleasure known as MayaQuote:
Originally Posted by Sudhaama
Dear Sudhama Sir
Please ask more questions like this, and let's see how our friends tackle this, we can use greatest epics like Ramayana & Mahabhartha as examples to impose moral values in different Circumstances.
thank you sir