Why...You talk about the Almighty BO power and 100 C, then why did not Nanban cross 100 C!!!, Vevasthai - Look who is talking?Quote:
Originally Posted by ajaybaskar
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Why...You talk about the Almighty BO power and 100 C, then why did not Nanban cross 100 C!!!, Vevasthai - Look who is talking?Quote:
Originally Posted by ajaybaskar
Any films with "Eezha Sentiments" will do well "overseas" , as the "Majority (85%) of Tamil population" , especially in USA/Canada and Europe are of "Eezha " diaspora , few more films which did well due to "Eezha sentiments " are the likes of KannathilE mutham ittal, 7am Arivu, and now MASSS, I am not sure how Captain Prabakaran did over seas (too young to understand these box office issues ), but I remember seeing loads of people standing outside the cinema to get the tickets (obviously these online booking did not exists that time ) even though the film had nothing to do with eezha struggle, the name it self made it a BB!Quote:
Originally Posted by PR218
Kamal movie tickets lower than all other big or lower or equal stars in all over TN except chennai where theatre owners yet to know how to cheat both people and government.
Yeah about right ..Quote:
Originally Posted by selvakumar
- Its true wiki is not reliable
- Its true wiki can be edited to suit ones needs
But the onus is on the disbeliever to provide adequate proofs from reliable sources (eg. producers, distributors) to discredit its claims. Thats where I'm coming from.
AB provided an EROS report and Cedy showed inconsistencies in it for Thuppakki ...
Reasons..Quote:
Originally Posted by bimmer
1. Nobody expected a comedy film like Nanban from Shankar. Someone like M Raja as director was more than enuf.
2. It was a remake which had a Shankar tag to it. And the original already had a glorious run across the globe.
3. Its not a commercial potboiler like Sivaji or Endhiran or Thuppakki and had nothing for the B,C centers
In spite of all these, the film managed to break even and also fetched the best price for satellite rights then.
Agreed that Vijay is still not in that capacity to make each of his film earn 100 crores. But at least he is there in the race and his recent successes has ensured that his films get sold even before the first schedule is over. So as a Vijay fan I wouldnt bother much about his potential in the BO. All i say is I would not worry about the paint getting peeled off in my neighbor's house when my house is in fire.
And I dont know who Selva is referring to as holy cow or neutral. If it was me (assuming it is me because there are not many here who fit in that 7 year old hubber criteria). I dont know what gave him an impression that I am a neutral. Right from Day 1 in hub, i am a Vijay fan and every T,D and H know it. If people fail to see it, then it is their problem. Not mine. And Selva, you could've asked me directly in our whatsapp group or even PMed me to know which side i am on instead of name calling. Couldve saved this thread from a few posts.
business means selling the movie, which happens b4 the release of movie!Quote:
Originally Posted by PR218
what eezha sentiments did Aboorva Sagotharargal or Indian had? Kamal had a real good overseas market which made those and Tenali a very big success overseas. nothing like eezha sentimentQuote:
Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN
Even in overseas kamal films have slight less rate tickets than, say rajini. But he has done records despite that. These kinda statements, like less ticket rates, movie sold for less price etc makes no sense. rajni inspite of having bigger rate and sale has still given 2 biggest flops. industry's biggest. Shankar has proven without rajini, in AI(though i never will like that film) but rajini cleverly rode on shankar & co for 2 times. also the image ppl have that he will never experiment and will always do commercial films only, will help. he kind of retains family and kids/lady audience with help of all the needed forces. kamal kinda lost it many times but he still is able to give commercial success when he attempts for thatQuote:
Originally Posted by cm123
Nice Try...As long as you don't complain that the paint peeled off due to the neighbors house's fire. Movie sold before the first schedule, Success meet 2nd day, Paint peeling 3rd day. Waiting for an announcement for ATlee's movie being sold before the first day of shoot.Quote:
Originally Posted by ajaybaskar
Not sure if Atlee film will be sold before the first day but I am sure the shooting will not be stalled because of insufficient funds. Thanu earned some good revenue because of his previous releases.
I know, Thanu earned a lot from Sachin...Quote:
Originally Posted by ajaybaskar
There are different kind of neutrals OR holy cows. I had a problem in seeing that 7 years ago. Not now. Thanks !
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Maatraan was loathed as a flop here. It has collected 90C overseas alone as per Eros. Does this mean the bar for a hit is 100c now? Then all the 100c films don't look odd if we go by that logic. I don't think KVA is bigger than Shankar
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No, a lot of movies have been classified hits/superhits/blockbusters mainly on ROI. Movies that made 20c and costs were about 5c. If your movie cost 150c and you made 100c, then going by common wisdom, its a flop. So the criteria is primarily profitability. Then comes the collections .. movie in a 100c club need not be a hit. Going by what you said, Maatran lost money, so its a flop.Quote:
Originally Posted by selvakumar
For sometime 'I' which is reported to have made 250c didnt break even.
Bill4u, you didn't get my point. Has 100c become the new benchmark for a "hit" movie for popular stars? I am not talking movies made at 1c collecting 50c or 100c. Those will be Mega blockbusters.
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And if Maatraan lost money even after collecting 90c just in overseas, I wonder what amount it was sold
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Selva,
this 100c/200c/300c crossing business is propagated by bollywood. Even Aamir Khan spoke against it last year .. It really pays no attention to ROI or profitability or movie's quality .. the bench mark you're talking about is more a status symbol for big stars - how much business they're capable of achieving. Linga crossed 100c yet is classified a flop but 'maintains Rajini's status symbol. I dont think he's too happy about its failure.
No idea about Maatran .. 90c just overseas seems a heck of a lot of money!
Bill - given that genuine box office records are missing in TFI, disclosing profitability is not going to happen ever.
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I can't remember how Indian did over here, and I am not sure how late 80's and early 90's film did over here as well, IIRC Indian films screening here were limited to "Odeon " Cinemas, and not all Odeon Cinemas screened Indian films, but since the introduction of "Cineworld Cinema" Indian movies were screened a lot more than in the 90'sQuote:
Originally Posted by sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
Not sure about other European countries or N.America, but the ticket price for all the films ( except 3D / VIP lounge) regardless of "Actors" are the same price in UK.Quote:
Originally Posted by sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
சாருக்கு சொந்த ஊரு வாடிபட்டியா?Quote:
Originally Posted by cm123
இல்ல கொட்டாம்பட்டிQuote:
Originally Posted by Raajjaa
No , it is "Ayyampettai" and his name is " ayyampettai arivudainambi kaliyaperumal chandran"
do you realize no matter how much the ticket price is for the first weekend when reporting to box office, they only show the actual ticket price for tax purposes but not the price they sold for? if you are actually counting 25$ full weekend price for endhiran/sivaji etc, it could easily touch say PK's collection in US.Quote:
Originally Posted by sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
even for latest massu movie i had paid 15 which is a norm for all recent blockbusters except for UV it was 11.. Most KH movies sell for regular ticket prices. anecdotal evidence does not a truth make. you don't make up stories based on what you hear. The so called flop Lingaa collected 3 times more than your above average UV (without considering inflated ticket price), do the math to find how much it actually could have collected.
less ticket price then Mass... and UV overall collection higher then MASS.. ok got it!Quote:
Originally Posted by PR218
sir I think time to let go Lingga.. total damage been done to that movie.. ninga vera keep bringing up again!
neenga naan sonnatha purinchikave illannu nenaikiren.. for BO they only consider standard ticket prices not inflated ones. it could be true UV collected more than MASS means it sold more tickets at the counter than MASS.. (not necassarily the actual money to distributors)Quote:
Originally Posted by dell_gt
Brought linga for comparison from the quoted post. He mentioned it's disaster so i responded accordingly.
I do not think the Eelam diaspora have the kind of impact on the box office like the Indians who migrated due to the IT revolution from the beginning of 2000 do. The Indians who came in after 2000 had the purchasing power and more importantly believe in entertainment mainly shopping, eating out and cinema. It is only after the arrival of the South Indians to London from 2000 onwards things changed in the 3 areas mentioned. You would have noticed how things changed over the last 16 years if you happen to live in London.I think it is the same in USA. The box office figures in UK, USA,Malaysia and lately Australia are mostly decided by the South Indians living in these areas.Quote:
Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN
I do not remember Tamil movies being screened in the eighties though thousands of Tamils from Sri Lanka lived in London. I had to watch Thevar Magan Guna and Thalapathy on video. But Tenali had a fantastic run in late 1999. That was purely due to the Eelam dispora. People did talk about Tenali's run. (In a way it was similar to Aboorva Sagothargal's run in KL in 1989; a trendsetter). The large scale migration from South India from 2000 changed things. The box office numbers of Sivaji and Dasa in the overseas market in 2007 and 2008 were largely due to this migration.
Half-yearly report card Of Tamil Cinema
http://www.thehindu.com/multimedia/d...j_2453794g.jpghttp://static.sify.com/cms/image/pep...aifg_small.jpgTop Nett box office collections worldwide in the first half of 2015
1. I (Tamil + Telugu + Hindi): 190 cr
2. Kanchana-2 (Tamil + Telugu): 98 cr
3. Yennai Arindhaal (Tamil + Telugu): 78 cr
4. Massu (Tamil + Telugu): 63 cr
5. Anegan (Tamil + Telugu): 49 cr
6. Kaaki Sattai (Tamil only): 47 cr
7. Uttama Villain (Tamil + Telugu): 38 cr
8. O Kadhal Kanmani (Tamil + Telugu): 33 cr
9. Komban (Tamil only): 31 cr
10. Romeo Juliet (Tamil Only): 22 cr.
All box office figures are approximate, but are adequately indicative of the box office performance of the film.Source: Compiled from conversations with producers, distributors and other trade sources, including tamilboxoffice1.comGross: Total amount from the theatrical ticket salesNett: Gross minus Entertainment Tax (various states have different rates)Share: Nett minus the share given to theatre owners as per agreementsArticle BY THE HINDU
yes IT revolution did have an impact, but amongst Tamil Population in UK, 75% are Eezha diasporaQuote:
Originally Posted by Karikalen
Ayngaran International founder/owner is Eezha Diaspora.Quote:
Originally Posted by Karikalen
Lycatel and Lycamobile Groups of companies founder / owner is a Eezha diaspora
I agree on this since introduction South Indian Food, especially Dosa outlets like, Chennai dosa / Dosa and chutneyQuote:
Originally Posted by Karikalen
I have been living here for nearly 27 years :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Karikalen
Is this the right time for Rajinikanth and Kamal Haasan to retire?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53mNG3bC0Ms
pottaya oru podu..ummmah..!!!
None of the comments in the video applies to Kamalahassan. He neither acts as a youth nor has youthful heroines. And certainly no 3 fights 4 songs masala.Quote:
Originally Posted by A.ANAND
At present Kamalahassan is the only hope Tamil cinema has.
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Exactly!! also compare this year movies like mass,kanchana,etc with uttama villain..Uttama Villain is far better than other movies though it didn't do well..Quote:
Originally Posted by NOV
kamalhaasan selects scripts according to the age and acts and none of the comments in video applies to him..
He is not the only hope...he also one of the hope of tamilcinemaQuote:
Originally Posted by NOV
That may be your view, certainly not mine.Quote:
Originally Posted by praboo
They dont have to retire. While UV didnt taste success in BO terms, it was a good attempt and would've been great if Kamal himself had handled the direction. The script of Papanasam will suit his age and i am sure it will strike the chord with the masses.
Rajni on the other hand is quite reluctant to come out of his tried and tested formula of mass entertainers. But since the cinema going crowd these days is mostly in the age group of 20-40, his attempts dont draw the same attention as they used to. That is why his next film with Ranjith where he plays an ageing don is more expected than his film with Shankar. Rajni is a much much better actor than Big B and imagine him doing a Sarkar kind of role. He will hit it straight out of the park.
That video though is nothing but Indiaglitz's attempt to improve the hit rates by instigating a quarrel between four groups. Nothing else
Sabaa...
Marupadiyum muthala iruntha ???
Big B is and has always been "Over hyped" IMHO, Of course our "Talent less Lucky star" is by far a better actor, if you see Big B earlier films, there were nothing to mention about his "acting skills", while our "Talent less lucky star(without the WIG) " proved a lot in late 70's and 80's , it is just that due to the sheer volume of pressure from his fan(atic)s , he is forced to do mass entertainers (of late , most of them tend to be mokkais).Quote:
Originally Posted by ajaybaskar
There were far better actors than Big B those days like Mithun ( 3 times National award winner), Rajesh khanna, Jeetinder ... but some how Big B managed to get all the attention .
Well Said Nov Sir..Quote:
Originally Posted by NOV