ARR Vs YSR Vs HJ

NJV,
When most decisions are based on market positions these days, YSR not working with any big league guys is surprising. When VS was number 1, everyone from Kamal, Vijay, Vikram and Ajith thronged him but I don't see such things happening to YSR - if i take your claims for 2005. A part of this pseudo image is built by the media who promote him cuz his last name is RAJA. I haven't seen the media going gaga over Anbe Sivam or Lesa Lesa which as a full album were quite decent but in YSR's case even if an album has 2-3 catchy songs VJs and RJs do a lot of talking!

how about

Thennavan with Vijayakanth ( a kuppai song which tried to xerox "kalyanam than kattikittu" from saami)

Pudhiya Geethai with Vijay - was good but not by Vijay's standards

Rishi with Sarath kumar - some songs were of the o.k category

YSR in my view, works well if the director has youthful sense. he has indeed scored mass music for Simbu in manmadhan. YSR had been more of a director's MD. Being the son of a legend, he didnt have any problem remixing a music done by TR (en aasai mythiliyae), for simbu.

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But when considering Dheena starring mass hero Ajith, it clicked very well. Dheena is one of most successful musical hit for Ajith. Dheena songs was super hit. After that, last 5 films of Ajith were not super hits. Ajith & YSR combination will click.

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"Dheena" songs clicked well because of the director Murugadoss who was a new comer and extracted peppy numbers for Ajith. But that was 4/5 years ago. Now Ajith is on a different lane. He needs to have atleast one kuththu paattu, VS/Dheena/Srikanth Deva might be better choices for his and Vijay's movies. And YSR surely missed a golden opportunity in Gajini, he should have done it, since murugadoss had worked with him and came out with a winner.

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Originally Posted by Sanjeevi

But when considering Dheena starring mass hero Ajith, it clicked very well. Dheena is one of most successful musical hit for Ajith. Dheena songs was super hit. After that, last 5 films of Ajith were not super hits. Ajith & YSR combination will click.

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"Dheena" songs clicked well because of the director Murugadoss who was a new comer and extracted peppy numbers for Ajith. But that was 4/5 years ago. Now Ajith is on a different lane. He needs to have atleast one kuththu paattu, VS/Dheena/Srikanth Deva might be better choices for his and Vijay's movies. And YSR surely missed a golden opportunity in Gajini, he should have done it, since murugadoss had worked with him and came out with a winner.

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Anyway, Ajith fans like Dheena songs especially Vathikuchi, sollamal, kathal website. I saw some ajith fans liking YSR combination.

If YSR did, Ghajini will be out a definitely a fresh album than currently released album by HJ. I feel the same, YSR missed the opportunity.

Move ARR out of this thread or move YSR and HJ to Amature thread.

Ghajini movie review

http://ursmusically.blogspot.com/200...ni-review.html

Hello,

yesterday I watched Putham Puthusu on Sun TV.
My father, who is not a big A.R.Rahman fan watched the show with me.
First they showed the trailer of Oru Kalluriyin Kadhai, then the trailer of Kandha Naal Mudhal after that they showed the trailer of Ah Aah. Then the comment of my father came.

Shankar Raja brought 50 albums (ironic) on the market and Rahman brings one album and hits Shankar Raja down.

If you believe me or not my father is not an A.R.Rahman fan.
He just said the truth.

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Originally Posted by baba88

Hello,

yesterday I watched Putham Puthusu on Sun TV.
My father, who is not a big A.R.Rahman fan watched the show with me.
First they showed the trailer of Oru Kalluriyin Kadhai, then the trailer of Kandha Naal Mudhal after that they showed the trailer of Ah Aah. Then the comment of my father came.

Shankar Raja brought 50 albums (ironic) on the market and Rahman brings one album and hits Shankar Raja down.

If you believe me or not my father is not an A.R.Rahman fan.
He just said the truth.

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quantity and quality both are important.....

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Originally Posted by nilavupriyan

quantity and quality both are important.....

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why just bcos IR scored 700 odd films wwhere 400+ are super-craps and 200+ are medium craps.........in which generation r u nilavu, when gud works like TIS go unnoticed with common man, how quantity is going to help someone.........really YSR needs to cut down on movies so that he can try to give the best like ARR......

and anyone can xplain y YSR has not been roped in hindi so far, cos i feel his music mite have a different flavor in hindi....

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quantity and quality both are important.....

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why just bcos IR scored 700 odd films wwhere 400+ are super-craps and 200+ are medium craps.........in which generation r u nilavu, when gud works like TIS go unnoticed with common man, how quantity is going to help someone.........really YSR needs to cut down on movies so that he can try to give the best like ARR......

and anyone can xplain y YSR has not been roped in hindi so far, cos i feel his music mite have a different flavor in hindi....

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:lol: :lol: ....,u seem to be ignorant......shall i give the list of ilayaraja hits...if u r wrong...,u must stop posting ill about ilayaraja?

are u ready for the bet?

im ready to prove u r wrong...are u courageous to take on my challenge?

nilavu priyan u must note maddy's sentences, he didnt say IR's songs were craps...he only said movies for which IR scored are craps (majority of them)............

i supose thatz what u told maddy :) bcoz imho i feel the same thing.......... hehe...now dont pounce on me.........

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nilavu priyan u must note maddy's sentences, he didnt say IR's songs were craps...he only said movies for which IR scored are craps (majority of them)............

i supose thatz what u told maddy :) bcoz imho i feel the same thing.......... hehe...now dont pounce on me.........

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let maddy come ....we shall check whether that dude is courageous

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Hello,

yesterday I watched Putham Puthusu on Sun TV.
My father, who is not a big A.R.Rahman fan watched the show with me.
First they showed the trailer of Oru Kalluriyin Kadhai, then the trailer of Kandha Naal Mudhal after that they showed the trailer of Ah Aah. Then the comment of my father came.

Shankar Raja brought 50 albums (ironic) on the market and Rahman brings one album and hits Shankar Raja down.

If you believe me or not my father is not an A.R.Rahman fan.
He just said the truth.

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Naan kuda nallavae katha solluvan :rotfl:

KNM is going to super hit. "YSR brought 50 albums". what a joke :banghead:. It will not come 50 (even near to 50) number of albums from his first film Aravindhan to Last released album KNM.

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Originally Posted by baba88

Hello,

yesterday I watched Putham Puthusu on Sun TV.
My father, who is not a big A.R.Rahman fan watched the show with me.
First they showed the trailer of Oru Kalluriyin Kadhai, then the trailer of Kandha Naal Mudhal after that they showed the trailer of Ah Aah. Then the comment of my father came.

Shankar Raja brought 50 albums (ironic) on the market and Rahman brings one album and hits Shankar Raja down.

If you believe me or not my father is not an A.R.Rahman fan.
He just said the truth.

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Naan kuda nallavae katha solluvan :rotfl:

KNM is going to super hit. "YSR brought 50 albums". what a joke :banghead:. It will not come 50 (even near to 50) number of albums from his first film Aravindhan to Last released album KNM.

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Sanjeevi,

mudhal vaseenga apparam nalla nalla kadhaikal ellam sollunga :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Originally Posted by Sanjeevi

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Originally Posted by baba88

Hello,

yesterday I watched Putham Puthusu on Sun TV.
My father, who is not a big A.R.Rahman fan watched the show with me.
First they showed the trailer of Oru Kalluriyin Kadhai, then the trailer of Kandha Naal Mudhal after that they showed the trailer of Ah Aah. Then the comment of my father came.

Shankar Raja brought 50 albums (ironic) on the market and Rahman brings one album and hits Shankar Raja down.

If you believe me or not my father is not an A.R.Rahman fan.
He just said the truth.

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Naan kuda nallavae katha solluvan :rotfl:

KNM is going to super hit. "YSR brought 50 albums". what a joke :banghead:. It will not come 50 (even near to 50) number of albums from his first film Aravindhan to Last released album KNM.

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Sanjeevi,

mudhal vaseenga apparam nalla nalla kadhaikal ellam sollunga :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Ayyoo. lets explain baba (babba?) :lol:

YSR did not complete 50 films. But we consider he did about 40 films. To do this he took more than 8 years. What is A Ah? it is a film. Why you compare YSR's entire films with ARR's one film or try to compare currently released albums by YSR (2 or 3) with A Ah?.

Oru word Iroic nu pottu size perisakki red colour potta sariyagiduma?

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Originally Posted by Sanjeevi

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Originally Posted by baba88

Hello,

yesterday I watched Putham Puthusu on Sun TV.
My father, who is not a big A.R.Rahman fan watched the show with me.
First they showed the trailer of Oru Kalluriyin Kadhai, then the trailer of Kandha Naal Mudhal after that they showed the trailer of Ah Aah. Then the comment of my father came.

Shankar Raja brought 50 albums (ironic) on the market and Rahman brings one album and hits Shankar Raja down.

If you believe me or not my father is not an A.R.Rahman fan.
He just said the truth.

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Naan kuda nallavae katha solluvan :rotfl:

KNM is going to super hit. "YSR brought 50 albums". what a joke :banghead:. It will not come 50 (even near to 50) number of albums from his first film Aravindhan to Last released album KNM.

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Sanjeevi,

mudhal vaseenga apparam nalla nalla kadhaikal ellam sollunga :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Ayyoo. lets explain baba (babba?) :lol:

YSR did not complete 50 films. But we consider he did about 40 films. To do this he took more than 8 years. What is A Ah? it is a film. Why you compare YSR's entire films with ARR's one film or try to compare currently released albums by YSR (2 or 3) with A Ah?.

Oru word Iroic nu pottu size perisakki red colour potta sariyagiduma?

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Sanjeevi I think you don't understand the matter.
It's not about how much movies YSR completed.
The original meaing is that YSR had a few albums in recent times. A.R.Rahman came with his one album Ah Aah this year and showed who is the best Music Director

It's Ironic and not Iroic. :lol: Oru word Ironic nu pottu size perisakki red colour pottalum ungalukku vilangavillayeeeee. :lol:
Innum villangalaina paperla elluthi post enuppi viduran. :lol:

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Originally Posted by nilavupriyan

let maddy come ....we shall check whether that dude is courageous

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go ahead nilavu and post me 100+ gud albums of IR.....i'm ready for it.........i agree that he shuld have scored in 100 gud movies but even in that 100 movies there are crap songs.....

hey face it nilavu, IR is not GOD...........he has given many craps........his quality % is very low......quantity wise he is the ultimate, no doubt.....

I"M READY FOR THE CHALLENGE.......u think ARR fans are cowards???

1 fatcs that EVERYONE know...but im sure the IR fans (NOT ALL OK??) will deny it!! eventhough ARR composes 6 songs max in 1 movie,atleast 4 of them become big hits!(it works even untill now,except few flop albums like Kadhal Virus,Udhaya,Parasuram) IR might have 1000 albums but the amount of songs hit will be less...lets see if IR composes 6 songs each movie,6000 songs rite?? list me 4000 songs that everyone KNOW untill now!! the songs that they will ! dont go by movies,for sure u guys will even list out the movie that had 1 big hit song only!! lets go by songs!! im sure IR has done 1000 movies rite? 4000 songs that people know & was a big hit!!!bring it on....dun think when we see the list we would agree...i will ask out some oldies that time and also the current machans.....!

for instance , the only unpopular & unoticed songs from 2001 until now were

Thazhuvadu & Thigu Thigu - Ah Aah!
New - Kumbakanom & Spiderman,
Aayitha Ezhutu - Dhol Dhol & Nenjamellam
Boys - Please Sir (but still people know its existance)
Parthale Paravasam - Nadhirdhina & Adhisaya Thirumanam
Kannathil Muttamittal - Senyore
Baba - Rajiyama 1 & Rajiyama 2

* Parasuram,Udhaya,Kadhal Virus,Alli Arjuna,Star,Desam all had only 1 song which was average hit,and rest was unoticed
1.Parasuram - Jack & Jill
2.Kadhal Virus - Eh eh Enaachu
3.Udhaya - Udhaya,Udhaya
4.Alli Arjuna - Roja Solladi
5.Star - Nethukitten
6.Desam - Undhan Desathin Kural

u dun want me to talk about his 90s hit rite?? everyone knows 97% of each & every songs he composed! only some were flop!

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Originally Posted by nilavupriyan

let maddy come ....we shall check whether that dude is courageous

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go ahead nilavu and post me 100+ gud albums of IR.....i'm ready for it.........i agree that he shuld have scored in 100 gud movies but even in that 100 movies there are crap songs.....

hey face it nilavu, IR is not GOD...........he has given many craps........his quality % is very low......quantity wise he is the ultimate, no doubt.....

I"M READY FOR THE CHALLENGE.......u think ARR fans are cowards???

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1. Annakili (1976)
2. Pathinaru Vayathinile (1977)
3. Sigappu Rojakkal (1978)
4. Priya (1978)
5. Mullum Malarum (1978)
6. Ilamai Oonjal Aadukirathu (1978)
7. Kalyanaraman (1979)
8. Johnny (1979)
9. Aarilirindhu Aruvathu Varai (1979)
10. Ullasa Paravaigal (1980)
11. Nizhalgal (1980)
12. Murattu Kaalai (1980)
13. Moodupani (1980)
14. Guru (1980)
15. Tik Tik Tik (1981)
16. Raaja Paarvai (1981)
17. Panneer Pushpangal (1981)
18. Netri Kann (1981)
19. Nenjathai Killathe (1981)
20. Meendum Kokila (1981)
21. Kadal Meengal (1981)
22. Alaigal Ooivathilai (1981)
23. sakala Kala Vallavan (1982)
24. Ranga (1982)
25. Pudhu Kavithai (1982)
26. Pokkiri Raja (1982)
27. Payanangal Mudivathillai (1982)
28. Ninaivellam Nitya (1982)
29. Kozhi Koovuthu (1982)
30. Kathal Ovium (1982)
31. Gopurangal Saayvathillai (1982)
32. Engeyo Ketta Kural (1982)
33. Thoongathey Tambi Thoongathey (1983)
34. Sagara Sangamam (1983)
35. Pudumai Penn (1983)
36. Pallavi Anu Pallavi (1983)
37. Paayum Puli (1983)
38. Moondram Pirai (1983)
39. Man Vasanai (1983)
40. Malayur Mambattiyaan (1983)
41. Dhavani Kannavukal (1983)
42. Adutha Varisu (1983)
43. Vaidehi Kaathirundaal (1984)
44. Thambikku Entha Ooru (1984)
45. Poo Vilangu (1984)
46. Oru Kaidhiyin Diary (1984)
47. Nooravathunaal (1984)
48. Neengal Kettavai (1984)
49. Nallavanukku Nallavan (1984)
50. Naan Mahaan Alla (1984)
51. Munthanai Mudichu (1984)
52. Kai Kodukkam Kai (1984)
53. Jappanil Kalyanaraman (1984)
54. Irupatthi Naalu Mani Neram (1984)
55. Enakkul Oruvan (1984)
56. Anbulla Rajanikant (1984)
57. Udaya Geetham (1985)
58. Swathi Muthyam (1985)
59. Sindhu Bhairavi (1985)
60. Poovae Poo Chooda Vaa (1985)
61. Pillai Nila (1985)
62. Pagal Nilavu (1985)
63. Padikkathavan (1985)
64. Naan Sigappu Manithan (1985)
65. Naane Raja Naane Manthiri (1985)
66. Muthal Mariyathai (1985)
67. Kanni Raasi (1985)
68. Kaakki Sattai (1985)
69. Idaya Kovil (1985)
70. Geethanjali (1985)
71. Chinna Veedu (1985)
72. Andha Oru Nimidam (1985)
73. Aan Paavam (1985)
74. Vikram (1986)
75. Punnagai Mannan (1986)
76. Palaivana Rojakkal (1986)
77. Mudhal Vasantham (1986)
78. Mr. Bharath (1986)
79. Mouna Ragam (1986)
80. Mella Thiranthathu Kadhavu (1986)
81. Manithanin Maru Pakkam (1986)
82. Mandhira Punnagai (1986)
83. Maaveran (1986)
84. Karimedu Karuvaayan (1986)
85. Kadolara Kavithaigal (1986)
86. Amman Koil Kizhakkaalae (1986)
87. Aalaapana (1986)
88. Vetri Vizha (1987)
89. Velaikkaaran (1987)
90. Poovizhi Vasalile (1987)
91. Per Sollum Pillai (1987)
92. Paadu Nilave (1987)
93. Nayakan (1987)
94. Manathil Uruthi Vendum (1987)
95. Manaivi Ready (1987)
96. Kaadhal Parisu (1987)
97. rettaival Kuruvi (1987)
98. Enga Ooru Paattukkaaran (1987)
99. Anand (1987)
100. Unnal Mudiyum Thambi (1988)
101. Soora Samhaaram (1988)
102. Satya (1988)
103. Poonthotta Kaavalkkaaran (1988)
104. Paasa Paravaigal (1988)
105. Guru Sisyan (1988)
106. En Bommukutty Ammavukku (1988)
107. Dharmathin Thalaivan (1988)
108. Agni Nakshatram (1988)
109. Varusham Padhinaaru (1989)
110. Siva (1989)
111. Raajadhi Raaja (1989)
112. Pudhu Pudhu Arthangal (1989)
113. Mappilai (1989)
114. Karagaattakkaaran (1989)
115. Indrudu Chandrudu (1989)
116. Gitanjali (1989)
117. Apoorva Sahodarargal (1989)
118. Mounam Sammadham (1989)
119. Thaalaattu Paadava (1990)
120. Raja Kaiye Vacha (1990)
121. Pulan Visaaranai (1990)
122. Paattukku Naan Adimai (1990)
123. Nadigan (1990)
124. My Dear Marthandan (1990)
125. Mannan (1990)
126. Mallu Vaetti Minor (1990)
127. Kshatriyan (1990)
128. Kizhakku Vasal (1990)
129. Keladi Kanmani (1990)
130. Arangetra Velai (1990)
131. Anjali (1990)
132. Adisaya Piravi (1990)
133. Udhayam(nagarjuna 1990)
134. Thaalaattu Kekkuthamma (1991)
135. Pudhu Nellu Puddhu Nathu (1991)
136. Michael Madana Kamarajan (1991)
137. Kumbakarai Thangaiah (1991)
138. Karpoora Mullai (1991)
139. Idhayam (1991)
140. Gopura Vasalile (1991)
141. En Rasavin Manisile (1991)
142. Eeramaana Rojave (1991)
143. Dharma Dorai (1991)
144. Chinna Thambi (1991)
145. Chinna Gounder (1991)
146. Captain Prabhakaran (1991)
147. Brahma (1991)
148. Thalapathi (1991)
149. Thirumathi Pazhanichami (1992)
150. Thevar Magan (1992)
151. Singaaravelan (1992)
152. Senthamizh Paattu (1992)
153. Rasukutty (1992)
154. Pandian (1992)
155. Nadodi Thendral (1992)
156. Meera (1992)
157. Guna (1992)
158. Chembaruthi (1992)
159. Aavarampoo (1992)
160. Walter Vetrivel (1993)
161. Valli (1993)
162. Uzhaippaali (1993)
163. Ullae Veliae (1993)
164. Ponnumani (1993)
165. Marupadiyam (1993)
166. Maharasan (1993)
167. Mahanadi (1993)
168. Koil Kaalai (1993)
169. Kalaignan (1993)
170. Kaathirukka Neramillai (1993)
171. I Love India (1993)
172. Ejamaan (1993)
173. Chinna Maaplai (1993)
174. Aranmanai Kili (1993)
175. Chinna Jameen (1993)
176. Veera (1994)
177. Sethupathi I.P.S (1994)
178. Rajakumaaran (1994)
179. Mogha Mull (1994)
180. Magalir Mattum (1994)
181. Amaidhi Padai (1994)
182. Sathi Leelavathi (1995)
183. Raasaiyya (1995)
184. Nandhavana Theru (1995)
185. Kattu Marakkaaran (1995)
186. Avathaaram (1995)
187. Poomani (1996)
188. Sirai Chaalai (1996)
189. Raman Abdullah (1997)
190. Kaadhalukku Mariyaadai (1997)
191. Devathai (1997)
192. Sethu (1999)
193. Kannukkul Nilavu (2000)
194. Bharathi (2000)
195. Hey Ram (2000)
196. Friends (2001)
197. Ramana (2002)
198. Azhagi (2002)
199. Pithamagan (2003)
200. Virumandi (2004)

you have asked 100+ albums....i have posted 200 albums and have highlighted the very famous musical hits of ilayaraja....the other albums are also musical hits........

i have won the bet....will u stop posting ill about ilayaraja....

hello, u posted something and u urself declared that u have won the bet, who the heck told u that u won it.....porumai kanna....lemme disect ur data and find out which were really hits....


and i never want to post ill abt IR....he has given some crap songs for undeserving directors and actors....that's alll, but i know he is a genius and the gr8est.......it is IR fans who wanna post ill abt ARR.....I"LL NEVER EVER POST ILL ABOUT IR........bet or without the bet/.... :D

Maddy!

You are again into the game! Nice way to collect the whole discography of IR.

Nilavu thanks for that list and I am just warning you that you might fall into the wrath(genma paghai) of HCIR Fans that the mislighted ones are not big hits of IR.

Again Nilavu! Somehow I do have to admit sincerely IR post 90's. But dont know much about IR 70's & 80's which were big musical hits & cant admit (U below 25) myself on hearing the complete soundtracks now. Ofcourse there is a big difference in hearing the track at the time of audio/w visual release and later on...

And I dont want to bother myself by asking anyone in this forum (both IR & converted ARR fans) whether they are big hits...

Is there any trustable (unbiased) link on the net available on the exact big hits of IR.


m...... also said that he will revert... letus wait.

great compilation nilavu :D ..hats off......welll u made me work on sunday morning, neways this is the list of flop movies from that list of urs which accounts to around 70 movies(mind u i have been very lenient in considering flops) which makes ur list come down to 130.....suppose that 130 movies had 5 songs/a film average then the total nno. of songs wud come up to 650......my arguement is that even in that 650 songs there are 300 crap songs and only 300 are gems......u want me to analyse each movie with their songs?????i'm game for it.......

Aarilirindhu Aruvathu Varai (1979)
Nizhalgal (1980)
Guru (1980)
Tik Tik Tik (1981)
Raaja Paarvai (1981)
Kadal Meengal (1981)
Pudhu Kavithai (1982)
Pokkiri Raja (1982)
Kathal Ovium (1982)
Ninaivellam Nitya (1982)
Pudumai Penn (1983)
Pallavi Anu Pallavi (1983)
Paayum Puli (1983)
Malayur Mambattiyaan (1983)
Dhavani Kannavukal (1983)
Adutha Varisu (1983)
Thambikku Entha Ooru (1984)
Kai Kodukkam Kai (1984)
Enakkul Oruvan (1984)
Naan Sigappu Manithan (1985)
Naane Raja Naane Manthiri (1985)
Andha Oru Nimidam (1985)
Mudhal Vasantham (1986)
Manithanin Maru Pakkam (1986)
Mandhira Punnagai (1986)
Maaveran (1986)
Karimedu Karuvaayan (1986)
Aalaapana (1986)
Manaivi Ready (1987)
Poovizhi Vasalile (1987)
Soora Samhaaram (1988)
Paasa Paravaigal (1988)
Indrudu Chandrudu (1989)
Thaalaattu Paadava (1990)
Raja Kaiye Vacha (1990)
Paattukku Naan Adimai (1990)
My Dear Marthandan (1990)
Mallu Vaetti Minor (1990)
Thaalaattu Kekkuthamma (1991)
Pudhu Nellu Puddhu Nathu (1991)
Kumbakarai Thangaiah (1991)
Thirumathi Pazhanichami (1992)
Senthamizh Paattu (1992)
Pandian (1992)
Nadodi Thendral (1992)
Meera (1992)
Guna (1992)
Aavarampoo (1992)
Valli (1993)
Uzhaippaali (1993)
Ullae Veliae (1993)
Marupadiyam (1993)
Maharasan (1993)
Mahanadi (1993)
Koil Kaalai (1993)
Kalaignan (1993)
Kaathirukka Neramillai (1993)
I Love India (1993)
Chinna Jameen (1993)
Rajakumaaran (1994)
Mogha Mull (1994)
Raasaiyya (1995)
Kattu Marakkaaran (1995)
Avathaaram (1995)
Poomani (1996)
Raman Abdullah (1997)
Devathai (1997)
Kannukkul Nilavu (2000)
Bharathi (2000)
Hey Ram (2000)

but just look at 1991 from nilavu's list, 12 hit movies..just amazing....

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Originally Posted by MADDY

great compilation nilavu :D ..hats off......welll u made me work on sunday morning, neways this is the list of flop movies from that list of urs which accounts to around 70 movies(mind u i have been very lenient in considering flops) which makes ur list come down to 130.....suppose that 130 movies had 5 songs/a film average then the total nno. of songs wud come up to 650......my arguement is that even in that 650 songs there are 300 crap songs and only 300 are gems......u want me to analyse each movie with their songs?????i'm game for it.......

Aarilirindhu Aruvathu Varai (1979)
Nizhalgal (1980)
Guru (1980)
Tik Tik Tik (1981)
Raaja Paarvai (1981)
Kadal Meengal (1981)
Pudhu Kavithai (1982)
Pokkiri Raja (1982)
Kathal Ovium (1982)
Ninaivellam Nitya (1982)
Pudumai Penn (1983)
Pallavi Anu Pallavi (1983)
Paayum Puli (1983)
Malayur Mambattiyaan (1983)
Dhavani Kannavukal (1983)
Adutha Varisu (1983)
Thambikku Entha Ooru (1984)
Kai Kodukkam Kai (1984)
Enakkul Oruvan (1984)
Naan Sigappu Manithan (1985)
Naane Raja Naane Manthiri (1985)
Andha Oru Nimidam (1985)
Mudhal Vasantham (1986)
Manithanin Maru Pakkam (1986)
Mandhira Punnagai (1986)
Maaveran (1986)
Karimedu Karuvaayan (1986)
Aalaapana (1986)
Manaivi Ready (1987)
Poovizhi Vasalile (1987)
Soora Samhaaram (1988)
Paasa Paravaigal (1988)
Indrudu Chandrudu (1989)
Thaalaattu Paadava (1990)
Raja Kaiye Vacha (1990)
Paattukku Naan Adimai (1990)
My Dear Marthandan (1990)
Mallu Vaetti Minor (1990)
Thaalaattu Kekkuthamma (1991)
Pudhu Nellu Puddhu Nathu (1991)
Kumbakarai Thangaiah (1991)
Thirumathi Pazhanichami (1992)
Senthamizh Paattu (1992)
Pandian (1992)
Nadodi Thendral (1992)
Meera (1992)
Guna (1992)
Aavarampoo (1992)
Valli (1993)
Uzhaippaali (1993)
Ullae Veliae (1993)
Marupadiyam (1993)
Maharasan (1993)
Mahanadi (1993)
Koil Kaalai (1993)
Kalaignan (1993)
Kaathirukka Neramillai (1993)
I Love India (1993)
Chinna Jameen (1993)
Rajakumaaran (1994)
Mogha Mull (1994)
Raasaiyya (1995)
Kattu Marakkaaran (1995)
Avathaaram (1995)
Poomani (1996)
Raman Abdullah (1997)
Devathai (1997)
Kannukkul Nilavu (2000)
Bharathi (2000)
Hey Ram (2000)

but just look at 1991 from nilavu's list, 12 hit movies..just amazing....

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heyy...we are considering the musical standards....

do u say
1)Nizhalgal
2)Raaja Paarvai
3)Kathal Ovium
4)Thambikku Entha Ooru
5)Senthamizh Paattu
6)Meera
6)Guna
7)Aavarampoo
8)Mahanadi
9)Mogha Mull
10)Raman Abdullah
11)barathi
12)hey raam..........are containing crap songs.... :oops:

all these movies contain all-time classics.....

by the way in ur flop list u have added

1)aarilirundnu arvadhu varai(silver jubilee)
2)guru(silver jubilee)
3)kadal meengal(100 days)
4)puthu kavidhai(100 days)
5)pokkiri raja(100 days)
6)pudhumai pen(silver jubilee....got tax free support from govt)
7)payum puli(silver jubilee)
8)malayur mambatiyan(100 days)
9)dhavani kanavugal(sure hit)
10)thambikku endha ooru(100 days)
11)naan sikappu manithan(100 days)
12)puthu nellu puthu naathu(not a flop)
13)kumbakai thangaiyah(medium hit)
14)thirumathi palanichamy(100 days)
15)nane raja nane mandhiri(100 days)
16)manithanin marupakkam(sure hit...a break for siva kumar after a long gap)
17)karimedu karuvaayan(100 days)
18)poovizhi vaasilile(hit)
19)indrudu chandrudu(silver jubilee)
20)my der maarthandan(100 days)
21)mallu vetti minor(100 days)


ur list consists of great musical albums and great box-office hits as well..........

u calling karimedu karivayan and malayur mambatiyan as hit movies really amazes me....i lived in chennai for some yrs and rest in Mumbai, i seriously cannot recollect having heard abt such movies.......

nilavu, the gr8 albums as listed by u:
guru- how do xplain "paranthalum vidamaten" song???is it a gr8 song??
hey ram- chahe pandit ho song---utter crap with no tune in it....
meera- lovenna love mannenna stove ----wat a gr8 thathuva padal......
kathak ovium-- sorry no comments
senthamizh paatu- other than vanna vanna no other song was upto the mark.......
raman abdullah- did it have any hit song at all??

yawn.....i;m really getting bored here with all this statistics.......nilavu IR is gr8 but he has given many craps....i dunt think i'll ever change my stand on it.......if u want a more detailed analysis i'll give it to u tomm. in my office time where i do get a lot of time...... :lol:

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Originally Posted by MADDY

u calling karimedu karivayan and malayur mambatiyan as hit movies really amazes me....i lived in chennai for some yrs and rest in Mumbai, i seriously cannot recollect having heard abt such movies.......

nilavu, the gr8 albums as listed by u:
guru- how do xplain "paranthalum vidamaten" song???is it a gr8 song??
hey ram- chahe pandit ho song---utter crap with no tune in it....
meera- lovenna love mannenna stove ----wat a gr8 thathuva padal......kathak ovium-- sorry no comments
senthamizh paatu- other than vanna vanna no other song was upto the mark.......
raman abdullah- did it have any hit song at all??

yawn.....i;m really getting bored here with all this statistics.......nilavu IR is gr8 but he has given many craps....i dunt think i'll ever change my stand on it.......if u want a more detailed analysis i'll give it to u tomm. in my office time where i do get a lot of time...... :lol:

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u can ask to anyone about malayur mambatiyan and karimedu karuvayan...both are hits

kadhal oviyam....excellent album with some classical numbers

hey raam....the song mentioned by u is made that way to look so original with nearly only piano.....kamal made it that way to look that way.....have u heard 1)isayil thodangudhamma 2)nee partha ??

raman abdullah--have u not heard muthamilae muthamilae....this shows ur ignorance about ir music...but u r posting on his films blindly.....

meera---did ir write that song......are we discussing abt the lyrics now..this shows u have no points to defend urself.....

u have asked me to list 100+ films...i have given more than enough....

so stop ur rubbish postings on ir........u loser

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Originally Posted by dinesh2002

1 fatcs that EVERYONE know...but im sure the IR fans (NOT ALL OK??) will deny it!! eventhough ARR composes 6 songs max in 1 movie,atleast 4 of them become big hits!(it works even untill now,except few flop albums like Kadhal Virus,Udhaya,Parasuram) IR might have 1000 albums but the amount of songs hit will be less...lets see if IR composes 6 songs each movie,6000 songs rite?? list me 4000 songs that everyone KNOW untill now!! the songs that they will ! dont go by movies,for sure u guys will even list out the movie that had 1 big hit song only!! lets go by songs!! im sure IR has done 1000 movies rite? 4000 songs that people know & was a big hit!!!bring it on....dun think when we see the list we would agree...i will ask out some oldies that time and also the current machans.....!

for instance , the only unpopular & unoticed songs from 2001 until now were

Thazhuvadu & Thigu Thigu - Ah Aah!
New - Kumbakanom & Spiderman,
Aayitha Ezhutu - Dhol Dhol & Nenjamellam
Boys - Please Sir (but still people know its existance)
Parthale Paravasam - Nadhirdhina & Adhisaya Thirumanam
Kannathil Muttamittal - Senyore
Baba - Rajiyama 1 & Rajiyama 2

* Parasuram,Udhaya,Kadhal Virus,Alli Arjuna,Star,Desam all had only 1 song which was average hit,and rest was unoticed
1.Parasuram - Jack & Jill
2.Kadhal Virus - Eh eh Enaachu
3.Udhaya - Udhaya,Udhaya
4.Alli Arjuna - Roja Solladi
5.Star - Nethukitten
6.Desam - Undhan Desathin Kural

u dun want me to talk about his 90s hit rite?? everyone knows 97% of each & every songs he composed! only some were flop!

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Sinyore song is a good song count that out.

if u know about Sl. then there is no reason to not like the song. i love that song
hehe
:D

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Originally Posted by nilavupriyan

meera---did ir write that song......are we discussing abt the lyrics now..this shows u have no points to defend urself.....

u have asked me to list 100+ films...i have given more than enough....
so stop ur rubbish postings on ir........u loser

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i knew it had to come to this level.......dont act like a kid, okkkkk........ quality and hits are something which we can project it in any way according to our views.......then according to ur theory movies like Boys and baba are also big hits for ARR........Baba was much popular then pandian...........U HAVE POSTED 100 CRAP MOVIES....show me quality stuff and if u want to maintain ur self respect then stop calling me names...okkkkk gaati ......

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Originally Posted by MADDY

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Originally Posted by nilavupriyan

meera---did ir write that song......are we discussing abt the lyrics now..this shows u have no points to defend urself.....

u have asked me to list 100+ films...i have given more than enough....
so stop ur rubbish postings on ir........u loser

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i knew it had to come to this level.......dont act like a kid, okkkkk........ quality and hits are something which we can project it in any way according to our views.......then according to ur theory movies like Boys and baba are also big hits for ARR........Baba was much popular then pandian...........U HAVE POSTED 100 CRAP MOVIES....show me quality stuff and if u want to maintain ur self respect then stop calling me names...okkkkk gaati ......

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DEFINE QUALITY IN UR TERMS...,THEN I SHALL PROVE IR HAS GIVEN QUALITY MOVIES THAN ARR.....OK?

ACCEPT U R A LOSER.....OR DEFINE QUALITY CORRECTLY

quality means (IMO)
1) Good recording quality,
2) all songs having unifrom influence over u in the movie,
3) general standard of the songs( lyrics, non-dappakuthu)

for example u quoted chahe pandit ho song as a good song but i cant agree on that..........compare it with nee partha song there is a big drop.....but take the case of punnagai mannan, all songs were just great..that is a quality album....if u look at ARR's albums u'll find more effort in each and every song whereas in IR's songs, u wud find 1 gr8 song and another mediocre song........ in meera also, oru rotulathan/mannenna song is utter crap compared to butterfly song.....

neways nilavu do u know that Greame Hick scored more first class centuries than Brian Lara.....but in international level Brian Lara is wat we know all.....so IR is like Greame Hick and ARR is Brian Lara......okkkkk

dunt call me a loser okkk u gaati.......

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Originally Posted by MADDY

quality means (IMO)
1) Good recording quality,
2) all songs having unifrom influence over u in the movie,
3) general standard of the songs( lyrics, non-dappakuthu)

for example u quoted chahe pandit ho song as a good song but i cant agree on that..........compare it with nee partha song there is a big drop.....but take the case of punnagai mannan, all songs were just great..that is a quality album....if u look at ARR's albums u'll find more effort in each and every song whereas in IR's songs, u wud find 1 gr8 song and another mediocre song........ in meera also, oru rotulathan/mannenna song is utter crap compared to butterfly song.....

neways nilavu do u know that Greame Hick scored more first class centuries than Brian Lara.....but in international level Brian Lara is wat we know all.....so IR is like Greame Hick and ARR is Brian Lara......okkkkk

dunt call me a loser okkk u gaati.......

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look at my list .....i have given more than 100 standard albums of ilayaraja....ok...u may take out pandian and some other albums...
yet u can find 100+ quality albums

by ur definition
1)good recording quality---ir has done with what he has got at his period.....after 30 years arr songs will look like badly recorded songs...will u say arr has given low standard songs

2)all songs has uniform influence---in my list u can find lots and lots of films where ir has given 6 great songs in one movie

3)general standard of songs---lyrics---

1)mukkala mukabula
2)petarap
3)take it easy oorvasi
4)mami song in new

these are all great thathuva paadalgal...... :lol: :lol: look at ur back first...its after arr's entry to tamil field..,lyrics lost its importance...

atlast....,greame hick and lara....

i accept ir is greame hick with most number of first class centuries...

but is arr a lara??...certainly not...tell me one international album which rocked international level...he has given only bombay dreams ...that too from his old songs....dont ever dream that arr is similar to lara in world cricket

keep going u guys this is fun. hehehehe

am sure ARR and IR will be very happy to see this. wat the hell even i am very happy to see this....

keep going... keep going...

hehe
:D

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Originally Posted by MADDY

quality means (IMO)
1) Good recording quality,
2) all songs having unifrom influence over u in the movie,
3) general standard of the songs( lyrics, non-dappakuthu)

for example u quoted chahe pandit ho song as a good song but i cant agree on that..........compare it with nee partha song there is a big drop.....but take the case of punnagai mannan, all songs were just great..that is a quality album....if u look at ARR's albums u'll find more effort in each and every song whereas in IR's songs, u wud find 1 gr8 song and another mediocre song........ in meera also, oru rotulathan/mannenna song is utter crap compared to butterfly song.....

neways nilavu do u know that Greame Hick scored more first class centuries than Brian Lara.....but in international level Brian Lara is wat we know all.....so IR is like Greame Hick and ARR is Brian Lara......okkkkk

dunt call me a loser okkk u gaati.......

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look at my list .....i have given more than 100 standard albums of ilayaraja....ok...u may take out pandian and some other albums...
yet u can find 100+ quality albums

by ur definition
1)good recording quality---ir has done with what he has got at his period.....after 30 years arr songs will look like badly recorded songs...will u say arr has given low standard songs

2)all songs has uniform influence---in my list u can find lots and lots of films where ir has given 6 great songs in one movie

3)general standard of songs---lyrics---

1)mukkala mukabula
2)petarap
3)take it easy oorvasi
4)mami song in new

these are all great thathuva paadalgal...... :lol: :lol: look at ur back first...its after arr's entry to tamil field..,lyrics lost its importance...

atlast....,greame hick and lara....

i accept ir is greame hick with most number of first class centuries...

but is arr a lara??...certainly not...tell me one international album which rocked international level...he has given only bombay dreams ...that too from his old songs....dont ever dream that arr is similar to lara in world cricket

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listen to Lagaan songs & lyrics...world class & ofcource blended with the movie just rite!! come on...dun tell me crap songs started from ARR,listen to old village songs....crapz!!! Nethu Rathiri Ammma,Tookam ponadi yamma!! besides... 100 good albums out of 1000 albums he composed???!!! 10 %!!! in which kanakku??

Nilavupriyan, ARR is not writing lyrics not he was interfering in the first line of the song like IR did. Yet u blame him for lyrics. I would say ARR songs have always great lyrics and yes for mass taste, the director prefer Vaali who is knows to give songs like Mukala, Pettai Rap etc but the majority of ARR songs are thousands times better than the lyrics of other MD songs and that credit goes to ARR and partly to directors.

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Originally Posted by dinesh2002

listen to Lagaan songs & lyrics...world class & ofcource blended with the movie just rite!! come on...dun tell me crap songs started from ARR,listen to old village songs....crapz!!! Nethu Rathiri Ammma,Tookam ponadi yamma!! besides... 100 good albums out of 1000 albums he composed???!!! 10 %!!! in which kanakku??

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Dinesh,
he has given a sample from IR albums not the entire good albums.

For a HCIRF (like me) more than 95% of his work will be good.
For a general music lover more than 75% of his work will be good.
For others ( :? ) more than 60% of his work will be good.

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Originally Posted by dinesh2002

listen to Lagaan songs & lyrics...world class & ofcource blended with the movie just rite!! come on...dun tell me crap songs started from ARR,listen to old village songs....crapz!!! Nethu Rathiri Ammma,Tookam ponadi yamma!! besides... 100 good albums out of 1000 albums he composed???!!! 10 %!!! in which kanakku??

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dinesh....,thats a sample for ir hit songs...


go to the previous page and see whats going on between me and maddy.....,he bet me to submit 100+ good albums of ir....i have posted them.....

by the way where is maddy...,escape-a? :lol: :lol:

btw....even in nethu raathiri amma...the lyrics are clear to hear...but in arr songs the lyris are not clear...music dominates sometimes

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Nilavupriyan, ARR is not writing lyrics not he was interfering in the first line of the song like IR did. Yet u blame him for lyrics. I would say ARR songs have always great lyrics and yes for mass taste, the director prefer Vaali who is knows to give songs like Mukala, Pettai Rap etc but the majority of ARR songs are thousands times better than the lyrics of other MD songs and that credit goes to ARR and partly to directors.

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i dont blame arr at any cost..for the lyrics at all.....its maddy who commented on the lyrics of ir songs....so i answered him...
look at the previous page

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Originally Posted by dinesh2002

listen to Lagaan songs & lyrics...world class & ofcource blended with the movie just rite!! come on...dun tell me crap songs started from ARR,listen to old village songs....crapz!!! Nethu Rathiri Ammma,Tookam ponadi yamma!! besides... 100 good albums out of 1000 albums he composed???!!! 10 %!!! in which kanakku??

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dinesh....,thats a sample for ir hit songs...


go to the previous page and see whats going on between me and maddy.....,he bet me to submit 100+ good albums of ir....i have posted them.....

by the way where is maddy...,escape-a? :lol: :lol:

btw....even in nethu raathiri amma...the lyrics are clear to hear...but in arr songs the lyris are not clear...music dominates sometimes

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speaking bout lyrics...latest current lyrics r utter rubbish....the Vaa Vaa Vaa - Dass....oh my goodness....such cheap lyrics!! but the song's tune & beats were so nice to hear..the part "ungamma yengakka yengakka ungamma athunaale naan unnai kattipene" :?

everyone knows ARR music sometimes overtake the lyrics...but i think nowdays Md does it more than ARR & never get pointed out...wonder y!

Arguments like this can be summarised in one phrase - Major Mannaangatti.

But anyway, lets stick to the topic guys, YSR and HJ are clear winners now, like they have been since 2002 :D :D Poor ARR :cry:

very true. Just another dud like "ah-aah" , ARR is sure to become a relic in TFM.

Thumburu,

Just curious if you are serious,

Ayutha Eluthu & Thesam didn't sound any good to you?
Why would you expect ARR to give his hardwork to someone like SJS?! Audio is still a commercial hit, isn't it? (Even though it failed reach you,me and whoever disliked it).