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Walrus, :lol2:
Congrats!! U've come up with the worst interpretation that I've ever heard of!! :thumbsup: :roll:


According to ur interpretation, it seems that somehow U've understood that I meant

Astrology exists.

Is it? Show me.

Ask Astrologers.

Which is not what I said! :)

I meant:

Astrology Exists.

Really? Show me.

See for urself, Try it before u base ur views on other ppl's bad expierences.

Try, and give astrology a chance, with some actual astrologers, before u pass it off as Superstition. And to find a good astrologer, u need to start looking for them, instead of just making statements, based on the bad expierences of some due to frauds.
There are plenty of ppl here who have had good expierences with Astrology. Why conviently ignore them? :huh:

There are frauds in every field. Does that mean that that field itself doesn't exist?? :? If so, since there are plenty of fake Doctors, is it sensible to pass off Alopathy medicine as Superstition?? :huh: :lol2:

Later. 8)

surya,
Is Parthasarathy a good astrologer or a bad one?

Not too Sure. I'm not familiar with Parthasarathy. Try AMR. He's a well known astrologer, most of his perdictions have been coming true for most ppl! :thumbsup:

How Astrology has IMMENSELY helped in CRUCIAL SITUATIONS... more instances

(2) One Central Govt.Officer ... got a Bungalow built as per the long- cherished dreams of him and his wife... but could not reside there due to his postings at far off places almost in North india....

So had to let it for Rent..on one main condition.. that it must be made available to the owner at any time on 3 months notice....And for more than 10 years the Tenancy continued... to the one and the same tenant.. due to his good friendly relations

But to the surprise of the owner... the tenant refused to vacate .. when it was sought by the owner after Retirement from service....Tenants attitude totally changed as a malefic enemy... Dragged the owner to Court of law... alleging undue harassment by the owner to the tenant..

Legal-proceedings dragged on for about 10 years... and failed in the High court too... Resulting in the Owner to stay in rented Bungalow paying exhorbitant rent... keeping his own property inaccessible and non-beneficial by its main purpose to him.

Consulted my Lady-Astrologer on my suggestion... Advised to wear a particular Gem for 48 days... within which time .. by its effect as per ManiSasthra (Josya-Pariharam)... the case will turn favourably gradually.

But... on the 21st day... after wearing the Ring with the Gem... the Tenant volunteered to meet and apologised for all the inconveniences ... confessed on his unfairness... and handed over the Bungalow unconditionally ...

... contrary to the Judgement in his favour... permitting for 2 more years

.. and also stating that he has already shifted to ANOTHER RENTED house. !!

(3) One Businessman consulted this Astrologer on his future Business prospecs...Astrologer warned unasked for not to travel on one particular date whereas he had already booked for overseas Airflight on the same date...And on the persuasion of his wife and the Astrologer... he postponed the booking.. .

Alas.. the plane of that date (previously booked and cancelled) crashed and no one was spared alive.

If that man had not honoured the Atrological advice... his LIFE-FUTURE?

(4) Two friends wanted to become Sambandhis ... by means of Marriage alliance... Boy well educated handsome medical professional employed in a leading Hospital... All Astrologers has commented on his Horoscope as Yoga-jaathakam.. and he will be very lucky...

The Boy and the Girls Horoscopes tally very well... Boy's father very anxious to get the alliance materialised since much impressed with the girl...

However the Girl's father... consulted my Lady-astrologer... who said " No doubt buth the Horoscopes are Lucky and match very well... but I do not recommend this wedlock proposal ... because.. !!...!!..!!.

... the Boy is already having a love-affair with his assistant... and now she is pregnant.. eventually the Boy will become the Father in the impending 4 months...

... Boy's parents could not believe... because he is so pious, obedient to Parents... acclaimed clean in all respects... as also soft-natured and well-mannered ...

... when questioned... the Boy denied of such blemish

But when probed .. the Astrologer's prediction came true... eventually the Boy had to confess his secret relations...

...and refused to part with her Lover.... his Assistant.... Hospital-Nurse... .. Left the parents on separation

If it were not known earlier... the married girl would have been treated as just a concubine... while treating the lover as De-facto-wife... as he openly confessed on his secret intentions

Without Astrological advice..the friends Daughter would have become an INNOCENT VICTIM?...

.. and her married Life would have been doomed or not ?.

... which some people may call THEN.. as her FATE!!! ..

Which is Fate?.. To DENY the Vedic-Truth... Human-Science.. and then blame Fate? ... or curse God.. ???

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PS: lakalakalakalakalakalak!!! REPEATA!!

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What the heck is that sound? A belching turkey? and you want an encore for that?

Dear Friends,

Our Friends ... Hubbers started asking me the Contact particulars of my Lady-Astrologer at Chennai... for their needs.

Instead of replying to each one of them individually.. as well as for the sake of other Hubbers too... who are prepared to believe me as well as the Astrological-Science.... here are the particulars...

Oh ! Irhaivaa !!! Yaan Petra NARH-PAYAN Iv-Vaiyam perha. Arulhae !!!

...My ASTROLOGER'S CONTACT PARTICULARS .... are...


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Ms. GEETHANJALI, Astrologer,

10 / 286, Akbar Street, (Near Junction of Bells Rd + Bharathi Saalai)

Off Bhaarathi Saalai / Ex. Pycrofts Road,

THIRUVALLIKKAENHI

CHENNAI -- 6000 05 ... Tamilnadu State... India.

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PHONE :-- 044 - 285 10 211 (Repeat :-- 044 -- 285 10 211 )
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Let NOT ANYBODY DOUBT my sincerety... I am in no way specially interested in this Astrologer... neither my Relative nor Friend... nor of any concern to my personal interests...

... BUT EXCLUSIVELY IN YOUR INTERESTS... with my pleasure of helpful service.

And with my past experience on my similar suggestions to others ... I have to mention.. because she doesn't demand, nor has any Standard Rate, but believes her Clients as Human- worthy Ladies and Gentlemen.

Please OFFER VOLUNTARILY ... as you feel proper...

... keeping in mind ...any NOTEWORTHY Astrologer... worth the name at Chennai... charges minimum of Rs 100 per visit... irrespective of Questions... and Rs. 50 per Question...

I believe you will ensure... that you are reasonable and Fair ... coupled with the sense of Empathy and Reciprocal- Sincerety without EXPLOITATION.

And I suggest ... to make such Minimum fee... as Rs. 50 .

... Whereas I used to pay her more ... subject to a minimum of Rs. 100 per visit .

.. even it be be for just a few minutes... on just only one Question...

... because of the Worth it deserves and the Value I receive comparatively .

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Originally Posted by Surya

PS: lakalakalakalakalakalak!!! REPEATA!!

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What the heck is that sound? A belching turkey? and you want an encore for that?

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I take it that u haven't seen Chandramukhi. Watch it. Awesome movie! :thumbsup:

Sudhamma,
Thanks for the Info. Now this thread has become a good source for astrological knoledge! :D

How Astrology has IMMENSELY helped in CRUCIAL SITUATIONS....

From the above-noted True events...

Case :3 If that man had not honoured the Astrological advice... his LIFE-FUTURE? ...

... If it would have turned fatal.. due to carelessness... by ignoring the Astrological warning...

... then people may console that it was HIS FATE to Die. !!!. Was it TRULY his Fate?

Case: 3 If it were not known earlier... the married girl would have been treated as just a concubine... while treating the lover as De-facto-wife... as he openly confessed on his secret intentions

Without Astrological advice..the friends Daughter would have become an INNOCENT VICTIM?...

.. and her married Life would have been doomed or not ?.

... which some people may call THEN.. as her FATE!!! ..

Which is Fate?.. To DENY the Vedic-Truth... Human-Science..

... and LATER blame Fate? ... or curse God.. ??? ..

...Who is WISE?... and Who is Mad to be laughed at?

Is it a WISE-APPROACH.. to ignore the God-given PRECAUTIONARY SCIENCE?...

that certainly was an interesting incident. Henceforth we shud be careful about forumhub bachelors like geno, surya, suressh, akash, etc.
:twisted: :twisted:

How Astrology CAN IMMENSELY help in CRUCIAL SITUATIONS.?

Case :-- 5 ... One Rich Girl and her College-mate middle-class family boy fell in love.... but both the parents vehemently objected due to several unmatching disparities... like Status, Caste, Age-factor... etc... and most forceful point the parents stressed was that the Horoscopes do not match at all.... So the proposal was made to drop....

Both were barred to meet.. and it went on.. Then the Girl entered a new field... wherein she became richer and bought a Bungalow in another locality... and informed the boy that she is not interested to marry anybody... because of her professional demands...

Boy studied further and got employed in overseas.... In the mean time the Girl got entangled in Income-tax cheating case... as also some other worst leglal charges... threatening her unfailing punishment of imprisonment as criminal.... On her legal-consultant advice... she decided to elope secretly to overseas, to escape from the arrest.. Phoned to the ex lover apologising for all her past wrongs and that she is prepared to come to him and marry immediately... by leaving India on his invitation as a Tourist... Accordingly both met at the overseas country and informed their parents... on their intention to marry.

After trying several Astrologers all of whom unanimously turned down the proposal... the parents approached my Astrologer Ms. Geethanjali.. who emphatically said... that the marriage cannot be successful... not only due to unmatching Horoscopes... but also... the boys Horoscope showing his definite foreign citizenship along with his permanent settlement there .. contrary to the Girl's Horoscopes only indicates her as a Tourist... and undoubtable continuation of her citizenship in her motherand India only...

But the young birds pooh-poohed the Astrology as Humbug.. and that their Love is inseparably divine since already decided in Heaven ... and they married in the foreign country of the boy... But the Pity !!... their Heaven- made- Love coupled with Married life lasted only just four months... The girl suddenly returned to India... since all the all her past floods had drained off... due to circumstancial changes... so she felt safe to continue here... not necessary to elope anymore... So sent a Divorce-notice and never returned.. Now the Boy repeants... because not only his married life is spoiled due to bad history... daunting the fresh matrimonials... as also he had to pay heavily as compensation beyond his means...

Now he fully believes Astrology... Kanh ketta pin Soorya Namaskaaram !!!

Can he Get back what is LOST...Prestige..Money.. Married-Life... Heavy Financial- Loss?

What a nice story!!!
Mythmaking is going on suceesfully in this thread. Even hubbers are lying to the extend that horoscope shows whether a person is visiting/migrating to country unde which visa!!!

As long as verifyable proofs are not given, this kind of stories will be considered as lies aimed to threaten or misguide the ignorants.

"r_kk"

//What kind of stories!!!...Mythmaking is going on suceesfully in this thread.//

My Dear Sir... You need Not believe Astrological-Science... Nor me... Nor these events ... Nor the TRUTH ... Because... my statements here are not meant for you but only for the seekers....

// Even hubbers are ... lying... to the extend that horoscope shows whether a person is visiting / migrating to country unde which visa!!! //

Why should I lie here?... What benefit I gain by spreading false-stories ?

... I am neither an Astrologer... nor the beneficiary by its. propagation.

It only shows your TOTAL IGNORANCE ON ASTROLOGY Besides.... if you don't know about the extent of reach of Astrology.. please don't pass on such loose comments...

I will be thankful... if you do not HURT ME by insulting like this anymore

Dear Sudhaama Sir/Madam
I did/do not have any intention to hurt you... I oppose the concepts you are propagating. I am not against you as a person.

Your story story telling process is similar to spreading of religious or superstitious thoughts/stories which contain only mythical characters and well devleoped scenes, with the intention to raise the superstitious beliefs. The aim of such spreading is not an immediate gain but it is the human's mythmaking process to gain more supporters to their ideology/belief system.

Please when you write in future, give more verifiyable details. If any one write "Follow this or you will suffer" kind of stories, I will try to reply with more solid arguments.

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that certainly was an interesting incident. Henceforth we shud be careful about forumhub bachelors like geno, surya, suressh, akash, etc.
:twisted: :twisted:

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yov walrus!

en thalaiya yenya urutturinga!

Sudhaamaa mEla ethavathu 'gAndu' irunthA athai avar mEla nErA kAttungappA!!! ;)

:rotfl:

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Dear Sudhaama Sir/Madam
I did/do not have any intention to hurt you... I oppose the concepts you are propagating. I am not against you as a person.

Your story story telling process is similar to spreading of religious or superstitious thoughts/stories which contain only mythical characters and well devleoped scenes, with the intention to raise the superstitious beliefs. The aim of such spreading is not an immediate gain but it is the human's mythmaking process to gain more supporters to their ideology/belief system.

Please when you write in future, give more verifiyable details. If any one write "Follow this or you will suffer" kind of stories, I will try to reply with more solid arguments.

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Please be sure to delete that '/madam',when you post next :D .

I am glad that there are people who believe in such 'astrologers' as I have already pointed out that India is a poor country and any effort to create jobs should be appreciated :D .After all , we woo multinational companies with great difficulty to provide some jobs here,so why not appreciate the effort of some indigenous people to build up a business of their own? :D

I don't see why we should oppose them if they don't have to depend on a govt subsidy to establish their 'business'[which ofcourse is another branch of science :D ] and they have enough 'clients' or 'customers' to survive on.

hmmm!

I had a posted something addressed to Mr. Sudhaama here, and i now find it deleted! :)

Whoever deleted it can explain the rationale behind that deletion - if not here they can pm me!

I have stored it in my cache and in case i did not get a pm within a reasonable timeperiod i will post it here again :)

Geno - Could you please paraphrase your Barathiyar's quote, please? :D

You seem to have a lot of these enlightening quotes, Pa!! Why don't you start a thread on it????!!! I don't know much of Tamil sayings myself, but at least I could learn from more erudite hubbers such as yourself! :D

"geno"

// hmmm!.... I had a posted something addressed to Mr. Sudhaama here, and i now find it deleted! :)

Whoever deleted it can explain the rationale behind that deletion - if not here they can pm me!

I have stored it in my cache and in case i did not get a pm within a reasonable timeperiod i will post it here again//

In any case that posting is irrelevant to this thread-topic... So please post the same in the ...

... relevant Comprehensive Thread.. ... ILAKKIYA-MAEDAI.. I will reply there.
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hmmm!

I had a posted something addressed to Mr. Sudhaama here, and i now find it deleted! :)

Whoever deleted it can explain the rationale behind that deletion - if not here they can pm me!

I have stored it in my cache and in case i did not get a pm within a reasonable timeperiod i will post it here again :)

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geno,
You post this in public, but ask for a 'pm'..? :? Anyway, being a 'Devoted Hubber', you sure know why it was deleted, right? In case you are still clueless, the answer is there in the very first 2 clauses of our Policies & Regulations.
For further discussions on this, pm me directly.

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Geno - Could you please paraphrase your Barathiyar's quote, please? :D

You seem to have a lot of these enlightening quotes, Pa!! Why don't you start a thread on it????!!! I don't know much of Tamil sayings myself, but at least I could learn from more erudite hubbers such as yourself! :D

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Hello there!

bArathiyArin kavithai onRilirunthu nEradiyAka edukkappatta varikaL avai!

itheiyellAm "paraphrase" paNNanumnA bArathiyAr-thAn varanum! ;)

enakku bArathiyAr varikaLai "paraphrase" paNNukiRa aLavukkO allathu - "maRaikkiRa" aLavukkO "thimir" illai!

When Shakespeare can be paraphrased, why not Barithyar Pa!! Why is that dangerous, you say??!! :)

What did you understand by that "bArathiyAr" quote by the way?

And what is "SO" objectionable that you want me to Paraphrase it?

IF you have anything more to say please send a PM to RR!

I wont have any more discussions in this regard with you :)

Dear sudhamma,
for your info the number of the lady astrologer that you posted does not exist please note

Mohan

dear sudhamma,
even the address does not exist. does this astrologer actually exist? I truly believe in astrology and I feel you should post the actual address and telephone no for the benefit of others. I am surprised that you have done this after all that you had written about her and her predictions.Coukld you post the address and number once again?

kondu67"

///dear sudhamma,...even the address does not exist. does this astrologer actually exist? I truly believe in astrology and I feel you should post the actual address and telephone no for the benefit of others. I am surprised that you have done this after all that you had written about her and her predictions.Coukld you post the address and number once again?//

Sorry to hear your disappointment in getting in touch with My Astrologer Ms. GEETHANJALI.. at Chennai.

Oh ! Irhaivaa !!! Yaan Petra NARH-PAYAN Iv-Vaiyam perha. Arulhae !!!

I had met her lastly ... about 07 (SEVEN) MONTHS back... at Chennai... at the BLOW-MENTIONED ADDRESS....

... and had also contacted her at the same ... below-mentioned PHONE NUMBER.

...My ASTROLOGER'S CONTACT PARTICULARS until SEVEN MONTHS BACK ... are... CONFIRMED as...

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Ms. GEETHANJALI, Astrologer,

10 / 286, Akbar Street, (Near Junction of Bells Rd + Bharathi Saalai)

Off Bhaarathi Saalai / Ex. Pycrofts Road,

THIRUVALLIKKAENHI

CHENNAI -- 6000 05 ... Tamilnadu State... India.

__________________________________________________ ____

PHONE :-- 044 - 285 10 211 (Repeat :-- 044 -- 285 10 211 )
__________________________________________________ ____

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Let NOT ANYBODY DOUBT my sincerety... I am in no way specially interested in this Astrologer... neither my Relative nor Friend... nor of any concern to my personal interests...

... BUT EXCLUSIVELY IN YOUR INTERESTS... with my pleasure of helpful service.

...I heard recently... that. she got her last ... Two daughters (Two out of Three Daughters... Only Children) ... married during this period.... and she became SOLITARY... as a Single Person... at her Old age.

May be she might have shifted her Residence to some other place within Chennai ...

I have verified Once again... on her Contact-particulars... and so I am able to assert that her Phone Numbers as well as Residential addrerss are CORRECT.... as per my last information of 7 months back.

Her Ex. Neighborers may be able to help... or...

... PERHAPS by enquiring at the Thiruvallikaeni Parathasarathy Temple Office... for whom she was the House-tenant ... about one year back.

I am sure... she would not have left this Noble-Profession... being much DEDICATED to it....

... as a Virtuous-duty to Humanity... without DEMANDING ANY FEES....

... and so solely engaged whole-heartedly and exclusively on it.. since the past about 40 years.

If anybody is really serious on the matter... PLEASE TRY... in Person.. at the above Address.. by. ENQUIRING WITH THE NEIGHBOURS.

I guess we need one more astrologer to predict where this one moved to!!! :lol: :rotfl:

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I guess we need one more astrologer to predict where this one moved to!!! :lol: :rotfl:

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Aiyoyo...thambi...ithu rombe nallairukku-PA!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Dear Sudhaama,

I have tried hard to obtain the telephone number of thr Sri Parthasarathy temple as to locate the astrologer whom who have spoken about but failed. As I am stationed in Singapore , its difficult and I hope to locate her if I do go down to Chennai as planned- probably end of this year.
Meanwhile , if you get wind of her whereabouts and contact number , let me know.

Thanks,

Regards

Has anyone heard of a guy called Vikraman Swami who lives in the outskirts of chennai? He is said to possess powers as to be able to predict the past, present and future accurately. This includes calling you into his chamber by your respective names and going thru every detail in your life accurately! I have never met him but would like to know more about him if any of you have any form of experience with him.His website is www.vikraman.com
Thanks

There are some FAQ 's on Astrology... we will look into them one by one.

If Astrology is correct ....

FAQ - (1) .... why Lord Rama was sent to Forest ... quite contrary... to the same time fixed by his Kulaguru Vasishta... for his Coronation so to say... his Yuvaraja- Pattabhishekam?

FAQ - (2) ... The most Patronisers of Astrology... were the ancientdays Kings and the subsequent... Rulers of the latest days.... as well as the Zamindars... Whereas... almost all of them had miserably failed... rather could not survive the onslaughtys of Fate on them... How Astrology has helped them?... Or Had it failed?

FAQ - (3) ... If Astrology is a Science... why different Astrologers give different Predictions.... on one and the same Horoscope?

FAQ - (4) .... Why on the same Birth-data... different Astrologers give varied Horoscopes?

FAQ - (5) .... Why the Predictions of one Astrol;oger varies from te others... on one and the same Horoscope... After all 3+2 can be only 5 ... and Not different for anybody.. if it is true that Astrology is a M<athematical- Science?

FAQ - (6) ... For some Horoscopes we have found... the Predictions... come true upto certain age of the person concerned... beyond which we have found the life-happenings far contrary to the Astrological predictions... even by the same Astrologers... whose words used to exactly proved correct by events conforming to predictions earlier?... but not later!!... Why?

As a client ...I have practically analysed these points ... and will be able to render the apt replies based on my own experience as well as by observation on several true cases around me..

But before I reply... I want t hear my Friends say... who have knowledge on these points...

Dear Friends,... Please reply to the above Questions.

Astrology failed and Science Won:
On May 5th, Mr. S. Ramachandran, a famous astrologer, who is considered as expert in weather predicting using astrological knowledge, predicted severe storm and cancellation of PSLVC-6 launch. But fortunately on the day of launch, the weather was clear and rocket was launched successfully. It proves astrology as mere pseudo science which only claims few of the positive incidences (kakkai urkara panampazham vizuntha kathai) as proofs.

Click on the following link for more details.
http://www.dailythanthi.com/article....isdate=5/6/200

"r_kk"

// Astrology failed and Science Won:

On May 5th, Mr. S. Ramachandran, a famous astrologer, who is considered as expert in weather predicting using astrological knowledge, predicted severe storm and cancellation of PSLVC-6 launch. But fortunately on the day of launch, the weather was clear and rocket was launched successfully. It proves astrology as mere pseudo science which only claims few of the positive incidences (kakkai urkara panampazham vizuntha kathai) as proofs.//

Even after the majority of the Scientists were well-convinced... there were a few Scientists... who conducted a Scientist International Association... named Flat-Earth-Theory-Scientists... and were advocating that the Globe is FLAT.

Only after Gagarin .. proved the fact after his travel around the Earth.... those pessimistic Scientists... closed down their Flat-Theory- Shop.... So it was those few Scientists failure of JUDGEMENT.

Similarly in this case ... it is the FAILURE OF A SINGLE ASTROLOGERS Judgement...

Was it concurred by the Majority of the other Expert-Astrologers.?

Similarly... majority of the International Astrologers... predicted about 40 years back... that due to conjunction of 8 planets in one House Makara... it would lead to major Catastrophe at several places all over the world.... including San-francisco in USA.

... which was refuted by a few Indian Astrologers...

And finally... what those few Indian Astrologers predicted came true... Even the Majority failed.

Same case applies to any professional.... including Doctors and Astronomers

Scientists may Fail... but Not the Science...

So is the case of ... ASTROLOGY.... Undoubtedly ... A SCIENCE

Thanks Mr. Sudhaama...

It is nice to see your explanation about the so called “Flat earth scientific theories” and your conclusion saying that astrology as science. First of all “Flat earth theories” were part of pseudo scientific theories proposed by so-called creation believers who tried to prove their old religious beliefs. Those people can not be considered as scientists at all since their conclusions are fixed even before their research. Astrology is also similar which is based on mythical planetory system. If you have to declare the astrology as science, can you please explain the planetary model considered in astrology and compare it with astronomy? If you want to claim that the time of birth, location of birth and planetary positions and even “parikarams” can influence/change individual habits and future, then please demonstrate through proven scientific ways not through unrealistic stories or coincidental incidences.

Just wanted to share a little incident here. You can read what meanings you want into it.

My parents, being traditional believers in astrology, took my brother's horoscope last week to a lady astrologer who came highly recommended from some acquaintances. The lady took a single look at the horoscope and reported a whole series of incidents that had happened in my brother's life, including the fact that he is currently abroad studying, and several other things that she had no way of knowing ordinarily.

This only convinced my parents of her authenticity and they brought out mine next, only to have her once again give an exact summary of the major events of my life so far. She went on to predict/forecast for the future for both of us; how true those are only time will tell, but the undeniable fact remains that she was able to tell precisely, with no margin of error whatsoever, of the past!

Again, my parents are fairly certain that there was no way she could have known about us beforehand, as this was a sudden, unscheduled visit and the acquaintances they had heard about her from did not know these details that she revealed, looking at the horoscopes.

I am not trying to sway anyone's view points by posting this here. Nor am I fabricating a story just to win people to believe in astrology.
Just stating what my parents told me just a week ago, impartially.

Dear sbadri99
Once upon a time I was also came across with similar incidence when I went with my friend to a famous astrologer. The astrologer could able to indirectly tell about number of family members and what kind of business each on do etc etc… But instead of astonishing I started enquiring the possibilities and understood the rackets…

Most of the astrologer when they make Horoscope book, they intentionally leave some codes containing many personal information which normal man can not understand. When you go back to them or the similar astrologer, he/she can easily read those code and make you astonished. It is one of major cheating technique to get the unquestionable confidence on them.

Another one thing, most of the people those who praise about a particular astrolger act as a link between the people and astrologer, provides lot of information indirectly. These astrologers are very smart in collecting information from you and the link through informal discussions and use it back to gain authenticity.

If you want to check the same astologer, make a horoscope of one your frines from some software program without giving much details and show it to the astroger. If he/she can tell any verifiable detail about your friend, you can consider the astrolger has some Supernatural power(!!) which I doubt.

Nobody can claim that Astrology CHANGES one's future... OF ITS OWN ACCORD...

....Rather as a... PRE-DESTINED..... FATE... or Pre-concluded Life-plan.

No Not so... Not at all.... Your Future to a GREAT EXTENT is in YOUR HANDS...

....And NOT IN YOUR HOROSCOPE..... which is only the Balance-Sheet of your PAST...

... which can REFLECT ON YOUR FUTURE....

So to say... Astrology is only a GUIDANCE on the strengths and Weaknesses... a person is born with...

... like the Wind for the Boat... or the direction and extent of Water- current in the River he is swimming in Life.

People who do not avail the Astrological treasure as Guidance bestowed to Humanity by God...

... are only Swimming AGAINST THE CURRENT unnecessarily...

... instead of swimming along with the River and Cross it... EASILY.

Similarly one Boatman may Ignore the natural Wind-force. and work against it and he too may be able to reach his his destination...

... whereas the other Boatman who took proper advantage of the Natural Wind-power can reach the same destination...

EASILY... and Earlier too... WITHOUT ANY STRUGGLE... like the former..

I have furnished hereabove the FACTUAL EVENTS in my Life as well as some of my Friends and Relatives...

... by which we safeguarded our future miserables... by means of timely Astrological guidance

Please imagine... what a grave after-effects INCORRIGIBLES I would have faced...

... Had I blindly proceeded ... without seeking Astrological Help?... Please read those events and then CRITICISE ... in a Healthy approach without Hurting me.

One more illustration... Suppose you have left your flourishing Industrial Company... to the total custody of your partners... giving them Power-of- Attorney... for several years...

... and then take back your company to your Reins... Will you not study the Balance-Sheets ... Profit & Loss Statements...Important correspondence and History... during your absense...?

And if you start... your functions ... taking into consideration ...JUST FROM TODAY...

What will be your Position? ... PLEASE IMAGINE...

...So is Astrology .... a Balance-Sheet .... of the Past.

... which does not BIND YOU on your Future..... But ..ONLY GUIDES..

... Since Your Future is in Your Hands.... you can ignore the Doctor, Auditor, Architect

... and Astrologer TOO..... LEFT TO YOU.. in Your interests...

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Originally Posted by r_kk

Dear sbadri99
Once upon a time I was also came across with similar incidence when I went with my friend to a famous astrologer. The astrologer could able to indirectly tell about number of family members and what kind of business each on do etc etc… But instead of astonishing I started enquiring the possibilities and understood the rackets…

Most of the astrologer when they make Horoscope book, they intentionally leave some codes containing many personal information which normal man can not understand. When you go back to them or the similar astrologer, he/she can easily read those code and make you astonished. It is one of major cheating technique to get the unquestionable confidence on them.

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Dear r_kk

That perhaps is true. But what if the horoscopes were made at the time of birth, as mine and my brother's were? How would these codes be entered into it, about things that would happen many years later? I can understand factual things like number of people in the family! But even then, could the astrologer have known with surety that there would be no addition or deletions to the family later on?

Dear Mr. Sudhaama,

Please write straight-forward reply.

Can you please compare the planetory position of your birth with respect to real astronomical positions?

Can you make any kind of theoritical relationship (mass of planet. mass of yours, distance between you and planet, force of attraction etc) and tell me whether these dead planets can impose any kid of force on you?

If you can make such replies, then we can start discussing whether it can be considered as science or not.

Badri,
Please read my previous updated post.

Dear r_kk,

Thanks for your Intertest in this Thread ... even though Not interested in

... ASTROLOGICAL- SCIENCE / OCCULT- SCIENCE / .RELIGIOUS- SCIENCE.

... I believe.. RADICALLY .. DEPENDABLE.. whether you believe or Not.

Apart from your Latest irritating Turn of Argument...

.. I am glad you have agreed and accepted with my other parts of Clarification on this Rich-Human- Guidance-Treasure... a part of Veda..

... for which Gesture I thank you once more.

I am interested to ... CLARIFY ONLY TO THOSE... who are REALLY interested to add up to their Knowledge...

.. and to those who are either CONFUSED... or DOUBTING on the Bona-fides... due to their BITTER- EXPERIENCES..

... which sort of other side... I too had in my past more than 60 year experience in Life.

So I hope I will be able...to put forth the FACTS as an Experienced Client.

And if You or Anybody .. takes an ANTAGONISTIC APPROACH... either to DEFEAT me .. or make Fool of me by some crooked means ...

... by converting this DISCUSSION-FORUM .. into a Court-of-Law... or Battle-field... as de-facto..

... I am sorry ... I am Not interested to waste my Time and Energy... by dealing with..

... such People who had already DECIDED TO DIFFER AND DISAGREE .with me..

... on my any amount of REASONING-BASED Reply.

Thanks for giving me an Opportunity SO FAR to putforth some useful TRUTH for the BENEFIT OF ALL those who seek for its Advantage..

Dear Mr. Sudhama
Thanks for your reply… In turn I was expecting only such a reply from you.

I do not have any intention to defeat any one here or make the discussion forum as battlefield. I am asking some simple questions which occurs in my mind while reading your lengthy writings. If you feel that my questions are troublesome to you or answering to my simple question as waste of your time and energy, just ignore me and go ahead with your enlightening experiences.

Since you had said you have 60 years of experience, as a matter of respect to your age, I don’t want to make any more irritating (!!!) questions. But please understand that as long as you keep away from such questions and happy in discoursing to blind believers about useless supernatural, myth and effortless pre-determined life, you wouldn’t be heard by current or future generations who have more questions than me.

As “Mr. Chappani” wrote in other thread (know God!!!) about you, we expect to hear lot of useful practical experience from you which can guide others.
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