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Roshan: Yes i too enjoyed, bcoz the message he conveyed to the soceity was gud.
In all the scenes he gave some message, so in SAMI picture his mokkai was tolerable
i simply like Vivek's comedy, i havenot enjoyed anyone's performance as that of Vivek's. no chance
As I have mentioned in my previous posts neither Vivek not Gounder have steered clear of vulgar comedy. Ennamo vulgarity-nnAlE GM appidinnu pEsakkoodaadhu. I can quote several examples even from his "celebrated" comic scenes.....even from scenes discussed in the thread thus far.But that is neither appropriate for the audience nor for the thread.
adhE samayam GM naalE vulgarity dhaan appidingra maadhiri pEsunaa , adhu summa pEsaNum-ngradhukkaaga pEsuradhu.
It would be a dishonest line of argument.
So I suggest we stick to sharing Vivek's humorous scenes here.
1. If I remember correct no body said so. GM pEra inga first kondu vanthathE oru ardent GM fanthAn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
2. Agreed :) But I would like to reiterate the request to all GM fans. If they dont have anything to share about Vivek's movies and scenes that they enjoyed, they can very well keep themselves away from this thread instead of unnecessarily posting counter arguments and attacking Vivek. Vivek's comedies are decent'nu yArAvathu post paNNa ethukku kuRippA Gounder fans offend aaganumnu enakku puriyala :roll:
:yes: we never talk abt GM, and in all my posts i never forget to add a statement "IMO". opinions differ, i do agree.it is not necessary everyone should like the particular comedianQuote:
Originally Posted by Roshan
yes, those who likes Vivek jokes, they feel his jokes are very decent, why do GM fans come into picture, no one has told anything about GM& it has nothing to do with GM.
letz talk only about Vivek and his comedy. there is a seperate thread for other comedians too.
In Page 2, when Arthi mentioned that Vivek is favourite because he is decent, R_R said no-one is decent. And he was indicating that he is no coming down just on Vivek and said that even his favourite GM can be charged with indecency.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roshan
This is the first mention of Gounder in the thread and it was not brought in as comparison point but only to add fairness to a general statment that "no-one is clean".
The harping on decency as if it is Vivek's USP was so factually incorrect that Nerd,LM and later Feddy objected.
Thereafter there was a "who-is-more-indecent" kind of argument.
Tolerable cheapness -whatever that is ! You can go back and se who made such a line of argument.
Here again Feddy and I, bursting with examples that would demolish this argument, are checking ourselves for the very same "decency".
While Maddy,LM have said in more than one occasion that "it was a matter of personal preference, please take a look at
the words you folks have been using against GM : see hate :mad: disgrace
DM reacted to the word disgrace and even a superficial read of his post will tell you it was a reflex reaction. Even there he was careful enough to mention "nowadays" when discussing Vivek.
Offend ellAm romba periya vaarththai :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Roshan
Objection would be a more proportionate word.
The objection is on two grounds.
1. Vivek comedies are decent - is a patently false statement.
2. It has been suggested that "only" Vivek's comedy is decent (i.e. I like him because of "decency".....I hate GM,Vadivel because they are vulgar,crass..) - that obviously calls for objection.
:-) That is not true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthi
I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthi
I will kick it off with with some undernoticed Vivek scenes:
Early days he had this knack of cracking jokes very quickly in the passing
In the movie NanbargaL, everyone is playing cards at Nagesh's house. A plate of freshly fried Bajji arrives....everyone plunges in anf Vivek has a piece of Bajji stuck inbetween his eye and spectacles
"Sorry Sir....kaNNu maNNu theriyaama saaptuttEn" :lol:
:-) That is not true.[/quote]Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthi
I wanted to say that whoever support Vivek haev not spoken about GM first... we all were enjoying /sharing Vivek's sense of humour :D
I agree, Letz stick to Vivek discussion here :)
A lot of discussions :)
Let me stick to vivek :oops:
In SAMMY:
Vivek's wife to vivek: yenna..... crappu vettikka koodadha
vivek: 2005-la idhudhan fashion aaga pogudhu.. appo paru Captain vijayakanth kooda indha styleladhan irupparu :lol:
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i feel that personally vivek likes vijayakanth (as i say in all other threads, most people like him for his good works)
some years back i read a news that vivek has developed a script (a thriller)for vijayakanth to be directed by vivek himself...... somehow it doesn't happen
RR
yaarmElayum thappu illa... namaku pidicha comedian-a support paNNunpodhu.. nambala ariyaama aduthavanga pathi pEsidarOm :oops:
/digression
teacher:
i started going through the pCB material :D
:) haha it was 'adiyEn' who made that line of argument. It's because Feddy as usual was trying to pull my legs and tease me :evil: :lol: So Bathilukku avara tease paNNuRathukkAga pOtta post adhu :P It was purely a tete-a-tete kind. Nothing was intended there except teasing each other. And this kind of teasing happens between me and Feddy often ( the recent one was in awards thread regarding Jyothika :lol: )Quote:
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
intha 'Nowadays' term pothuvA ellA artiste'kum - yEn ellA manushangaLukkum porunthum. idhu namma periyavanga 'antha kAlathula pOla'nu aarambichu azhuthukkuRa mAthiri oru vishayam :lol: Vivek cannot be seen as an exception. AdhathAn nAn solla vanthEn :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Agreed ! yArumE perfect kedeyAthu . But there is something called tolerance level. AdhuthAn ellAthukkum base. Again it's one's own perception and the tolerance limit varies person to person (eppadi namma Bala'ku Oram Po pidikkalaiyO, antha mAthiri :lol: ). Adhula konjam bias kalanthirukkum, specially when it's your own favourite. Adha mannichu vitturalAm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Hello I was advocating the truth and i never intended to pull your legs. I entered this thread only at the 5th page seeing posts which claimed that viveks jokes are decent. And reg Jyothika hub award, I still maintain that she overacts :lol2:.
Both are my opinions and certainly not attempts to instigate fellow hubbers. (Nambarathum nambatathum unga ishtam) :P
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Originally Posted by Roshan
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Originally Posted by ajithfederer
Forgive the cliche, well said PR.
Moreover, "Vulgarity" depends on how you perceive. It's an overused, and overcooked term in TFI. Heck, I bet that most would even grin at most of the vulgar jokes. (I think Roshan, Arthi, and few others might be exceptions).
Me too thinks Goundamani is one of his kind - no mimicking, no personal remarks, no pseudo social commentary, no agenda, etc - but but..the racist lines are riot-intended (the worst TFI racist joke has to be Angavi-Sangavi, Sivaji), but I think Gounder should have avoided it. Finally this "irreverence" of Gounder, and the legend of GM-Senthil (which is on par, if not more than Tom&Jerry, Laurel&hardy or what have you. one of the most versatile combos, I should say) is still unsarpassed in Tamil cinema. But again humour is subjective. I myself felt few scenes quoted in the Gounder thread come off as a mokkai at best (no offence meant).
As requested, no more discussions on GM here. Kindly posts your views - positive or otherwise about GM in the relevant thread. If you feel like making comparisons you may post in 'best comedian' thread. Let us, from now onwards stick to Vivek and Vivek only here. Thank you :) :P
vadivelu better than nagesh? :shock:Quote:
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
:omg: how the mighty comes crashing down. and i am not refering to nagesh :roll:
vadivelu (especially) and goundamani can only survive on slapstick. it can be funny up to a certain point only. come on, how many times can you laugh at beating/kicking and being beaten/kicked?
nagesh kitta ivanga ellaam pichai vaanganum, when it comes to body language and sense of timing. :exactly:
and to call vadivelu better than nagesh when vadivelu himself is nicknamed karuppu nagesh, is the best comedy of all. :roll:
as for me, give me wit any time! :D
and therefore vivek wins any time over vadivelu... :lol2:
Well NOV between Nagesh and Vadivelu the > is a bit fuzzy.
That is still bad enough for you I guess :-)Phew !! The general impression which is so distant from the facts.Quote:
Originally Posted by NOV
As far as body-language goes Vadivelu is far ahead of Nagesh's done-to-death double-take.
Regarding Karuppu Nagesh....well I don't take the title too seriously. Vivek is called Chinna Kalaivaanar...but he is way more funnier than NSK.
I shall not even bother bring GM in here :-)
NOV, any further discussions here should go to the Best Comedian thread.
Yes,Vivek is more funnier than NSK ,but 'chinna kalaivaanar' title is not given for his funny part ,but for NSK brand of mixing comedy with social message ..isn't it ? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
NOV well said :DQuote:
Originally Posted by NOV
you are being too kind on yourself. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
sacrilege is the word i would use.
i guess we are heading in different directions. you are, simply, beyond repair. :rotfl:Quote:
Vivek is called Chinna Kalaivaanar...but he is way more funnier than NSK.
PR, i am just teasing you, dont get offended. ;)
to put is simply, i am surprised at PR's claimQuote:
Originally Posted by joe
but then again when he says that vadivelu is better than nagesh (in body language of all things), it should have prepared me for his quaintness. :P
its like saying that jeeva is excelling over kamal in acting prowess. :lol2:
Agree with you NOV :DQuote:
Originally Posted by NOV
For once I agree completely with NOV :) :PQuote:
Originally Posted by NOV
To my mind, Nagesh has grown as a comical genius over the period. Though he was refreshing in KB films than his previous ventures, his style had always been the same. Only about a decade later, I thought he reached his peak, and got more diverse. He simply rocked as Avinashi in MMKR, and the drunkard in Avvai Shanmughi. What a rocking body language as a stiff cadaver in MM? :shock: Heck, he simply redefined charismatic villain-ism with his turn in Apoorva Sagodarargal, his timing is impeccable (I think no other actor in TFI could match that witticism and malevolence)!
:clap: for once I agree with you :D :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by NOV
// btw is cho considered a comedia :roll: //
Vivek'oda comedyQuote:
Originally Posted by Wibha
Neenga verum daasaa illa lord labuck daasaa---
My vote is for Vivek---
Vivek wins hand---wn it is comes to polling
POLL aarambichuduvoma :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by sarna_blr
vaanga Gaptan vaanga---Quote:
Originally Posted by raaja_rasigan
vandhutaangayya vandhutaanga :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by sarna_blr
True. I was just trying make light of the 'title'. I find the 'title' kalaachaaram pretty curious and often extremely phony.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe
Here's more sacrilege. When I say Vadivelu>Nagesh, I say that after giving Nagesh a lot of time-handicap (yeah things were melodramatic in his heydey, there was a need to be look-mom-I-am-being-funny etc.). I am also aware that I am comparing two different styles (though seemingly comparable).btw I hope you are not concluding that I don't find Nagesh funny or his style unimpressive - in many ways he is in a league of his own. But I am more impressed by Vadivelu's nativity,spontaneity and have found myself laughing harder and oftener with him.
Regarding "wit" - now you don't get offended - I find this notion of "Only witty humour admitted" pretty superior. Chaplin unwittingly called himself a comedian I guess.
Thilak I agree with most of your post.
no, nagesh's talent doesnt diminish one tiny bit by your allegations. sometimes allegators :lol2: reveal more about themselves than the subject of thier allegations. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
anyway, I just realised that just as all roads lead to rome, all adulations lead to kamal... om kamalaaya namaha... nee illaamal kalai ulagamE azhindhu vidum :roll:
idha pOi ivlO seriousaa discuss pannittu irukkEnE, enna sollanum :banghead:
Chaplin unwittingly called himself a comedian I guess.
:lol:
I also have this notion of taking Chaplin lightly. :twisted: (Thankfully Mr.Haasan often reminds)
NOV, check my post(s) (Don't point PR). :lol2:Quote:
Originally Posted by NOV
i was tempted to sing kamal pOtri after seeing your post but restrained myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by thilak4life
when PR followed suit with his aamaa saami, i couldnt resist. sucker aint I? :cry:
PR,
Bang on about Nagesh's style. Though I find him more subtle than Vadivelu(IMO), who gets on my nerves after a point. Yes, it's subjective..
Come on Nov, I'm with you on Nagesh. I just find him a more complete actor after his association with Kamal. Well, ask Nagesh, he'll affirm!Quote:
Originally Posted by NOV
please tell me you are joking... or i will never ever be able to take you seriously again. :cry2:Quote:
Originally Posted by thilak4life
For starters, compare how Nagesh carries himself or delivers his lines in Anbe Vaa, and later, in MMKR. He's much more subtle, and molded into the role!
Should I take you serious now? :lol2:Quote:
Originally Posted by NOV
Prabhu,
But dont you think it's again all about a person's interest, liking, perception, prejudices etc?
You may find Vadivelu funnier than Vivek or even Nagesh but to be honest, the moment I see Vadivelu on screen I would immediately take the remote in hand to change the channel or put it on mute until something interesting, that I feel, comes on. To me even the most hailed 'pulikEsi', sounded mokkai in many scenes. But I have, to some extent enjoyed his sequences in movies like Kadhalan, Friends, London, Winner et al. However, I would rate his character role 'Esakki', in Devar Magan above all his comedy flicks.
Re Chaplin - to be honest again, I have not enjoyed his sequences mostly. Mr Bean pAthu vizhunthu vizhunthu sirrikkiravangaLa aacharyamA pArpEn nAn. It's not my cup of tea. I have no qualms in accepting that, even if my sense of humour is criticised based on my 'gender' :wink: :P :) 8-)
NOV, you are digressing here too much :lol2: :P