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:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
PR, naan ennamo post-facto theory-a dhaan start panninen but Nerd solradhai paartha Sujatha-ku lesa apdi oru thought irundhirukkum pola? Sujathukku kooda credit kidayadha?
( Having said that, there is still scope for Vikram's execution of that conception of Sujatha being an accident rather than design)
Idhula Lakshmi pangu romba kuraivu-nu ninaikaren. Vengala kiNNam vena tharalamQuote:
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram, presenting a weak case,
oru moderator pesara pecha idhu? Appoint agaamale inge oruthan kashtapattu discussion-lam moderate pannikittu irukken - konjam kooda respeet-e illama...Quote:
Originally Posted by NOV
SP sonna parameter enakku puriyave illai so choice-la vuttudaren. Oruthan oruthana aarayalama?Quote:
Originally Posted by Than Muyarchiyil Satrum Manam Thalaradha Plum
Vikram patri thevaiyana aLavu alasi vittadhalum, melum avaradhu thagudhigaL satru kuraivagave uLLadhaga oraLavukku elloralum oppukoLLapattuvittamaiyAlum, avarai modhalla reject panniduvom. He has mixed results in 1 and average in 2. 3 pathi sollave venaam
Who's next?
பாவம் நாகேஷ், அவரை உட்டுருங்க...versatile'ன்னு பேர் வாங்கறதுக்காக அவர் கத்திச்சண்டை, குதிரையேற்றம் எல்லாம் பண்ண முடியாது :-)
app, apdi yaarum sollave illai. MakkaL ellam kashtapattu parameter ellam define panninanga, Adhai naan compile vera panninaen. neenga cool-a thavarana interpretation eduthuttu vaadhidareenga...:-(
That was a digression spurred by the mention of SVSQuote:
Originally Posted by Plum
Anyway list of worst-lErndhu vengaLa kiNNam varaikkum vandhadhukku thanks :-)
1. Mudhalvan & Boys ( dunno which movie to put in the top)Quote:
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
3. Jeans
4. Indian
all other Shanker movies are craps IMHO 8-)
Shivaji is the best of all Shankar movies, IMO!
All others (that I've watched) are many steps below!
Plum:-)
IMO, "veeram" is a necessary quality to be displayed on screen to be called versatile. Nagesh adhil ambEl :-)
So, by my definition, all those "character" artistes are out.
Only heroes & villains can be counted in!
Plum, first of all let us not include seniors here. As SP said, they have been around, proved their talents, their watchamacallit versatility and are still at it. So, Kamal, Rajini & Sathyaraj should be out as candidates (yen Prabhu-va podulanu kooda tonuthu, but leave him out too). If so, then my candidate is definitely Madhavan.
In fact, 10 years ago, I'd have nominated Prabhu Deva too.
Prabhu ... versatile... absolutely 8-)Quote:
Originally Posted by groucho070
but Sathyaraj :? like gounder... one dimentional :twisted:
sathyaraj is versatile.
kamal,sathyaraj,rajni and prabhu ..in that order.
rajni "for the past tonty pive years" ore rolethan..vera vera padam.
PR... unga kittErundhu idhai nAn edhirpArkala.. nenachu pArkavE nArAsamA irukkudhu mAmA...Quote:
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Vikram nalla actor dhaana :?Quote:
Originally Posted by VENKIRAJA
but Surya comment was 100 much :rant: :curse: adhenna Surya'kE :angry2:
Prabhu Deva-va? (Read in Vivek Style with a high stress on va-va and a mouth open up to the ears)Quote:
Originally Posted by groucho070
Groucho, ipdilllam shock kodukkadheenga
adhu prashanth nadichcha padam :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Plum
one more shock ungalukku :poke:
:lol: I can imagine that very well. In fact, the same Vivek might agree with me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
But as I said, ten years ago. Ippo onnum recommend pannura mathiri illa.
PD was doing very well then, he was moving about in films of different genre, may it be teen love, comedy, or pure masala. He blended well with Kamal in Kadhala Kadhala (I like the film, so sue me) and really acted his baggy pants off in a little known gem of a movie called Yezhaiyin Sirippinile. I really liked his performance here.
Plus he can be inventive. He brings much more to the table. 10 rooba kodutha 9 roobavila nadichi, estra massage service koduppaaru.
And we know how good he is in comedy, a trait largely lacking in some of the actors of his (my) generation and younger.
Of course, he's a lousy dancer :wink:
Ezhaiyin Sirippile - veLakannai thinna korangu maadhiri expression kodupparu senti scenes-la. Sari vidunga, ungaLukkku pudichirundha okay.
"PD was doing very well then, he was moving about in films of different genre, may it be teen love, comedy, or pure masala"
Idhu ungaLukke konjam over-a theriyalaia? :-)
(vikram-ai ivlo thaakkarenga, indha VeLakennai Expression Master-ku ivlo write -up- groucho, unga character-ai purinjikkave mudiyalai!)
The monotonous actors apdinu thread potrundha interestinga irindhirukkum...
Groucho,
Prabhu Deva :omg:
10 years back mattum enna pannitrundhaaru? Can you spot two differences in his performance(?) in any two films of his?
EKGI! :(
Sathyaraj versatile-a idhuuvm too much a irukke...
:rotfl: :rotfl: Simile-la taakureyngga Plum-chettan. Really. But PD-ya vittudungga. Right now, after the seniors, my bet (one piggy bank) is on Madhavan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
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Originally Posted by Plum
athuvum nadippu thanungale
Actually, neethu nadicha padathilum, patthu varusham munna vantha padathilum not much difference. . Performance of his generation was bad all around, and he seemed to be the most animated one. Either that, or I was a easy customer, bought it lock, stock or barrel. :? Plus he did some variety of subjects, and he was the only on of his generation, then, I emphasise on then, to do comedy. But as I say, vittuduvom, athu pazhaya kathai.Quote:
Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
He gave varieties, but need not necessarily great in all of them. Originality-kku niraya marks kodukkalam.Quote:
Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
Hmm.. didn't get you.Quote:
Originally Posted by VENKIRAJA
I assume you meant what Sarna meant "adhu enna Surya-kkE".
If so I don't know what to say. In my books in the current crop Surya is the one actor from whom different types of performances can be brought out. So, to say that even he would not have been able to achieve the performance Vikram managed to get is a compliment to Vikram.
Or are you saying that I am underestimating Surya and that he could have pulled off Siththan ? :P
Groucho, Prabhudeva is quite a natural and fluent actor and seriously underrated. But he was pretty much the same in all his films.
PR... unga kittErundhu idhai nAn edhirpArkala.. nenachu pArkavE nArAsamA irukkudhu...Quote:
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram alias Groucho
:rotfl: enna kaiya pudicha izhutiya mathiri aayiduche intha commentQuote:
Originally Posted by Plum
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Originally Posted by Plum
Plum in crisis now :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Plum
innum equa-vum vandhu "prashant is a natural actor"-nu oru shock kudutharunna, Hub-lerundhu retirement announce pannittu poyida vendiyadhu dhaan :-)
naanum modhalla irundhu idhadhaan sollittirukkEn :rant:Quote:
Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
if Sathyaraj is versatile, then we can include Prabhudeva,ramarajan etc :P
Finally I agree with someone.Quote:
Originally Posted by groucho070
Sari, marubadiyum indha panchayathoda main matterukku varuvom...Vikram rejeeted. Who next to analyse?
Madhavan eduthuppoma?
Groucho, defined parameters padi Madhavanukku oru case file podunga.
Oh boy, I will be repeating myself, but for Madhavan's sake, let me try this.
1. Ability to blend into the film, irrespective of the film's milieu, mood, theme, setting
We already saw this. He has done romance and has succeeded very well. He is a natural in comedies, we all saw that. He is also capable of totally love it or loath it over the top performance (Thambi, that really impressed me). He has some semi-arthouse tragedy about a ordinary middle class bloke going nuts (Evano Oruvan that got many notices), and of course, recent foray into Horror that we saw him exceling in responding to the horror surrounding him without resorting to overemoting (pey padamna romba express pannuvanggo matta payalugha). Except for Thambi, I had hardly heard of complaints about his not doing well in the films he was in. And I don't even want to talk about his status as non-Tamizh film star as it won't be appropriate here.
2. Variety of roles - not sure what this means though - let's say ability to emote a range of emotions
Well, maybe not up to the senior's level, but he has done quiet a bit. The horrid "chocolate boy" roles, the fiery low class thug, the eccentric philantrophist cum vigilante, the regular bloke went psycho, the middle class family man in a haunted apartment, the arrogant NRI who learns life lesson through a trip across the country on train with a communist sympathising union leader. This comes to my mind immediately. I must say, its pretty varied.
3. Should we bring in ability to do any accent.
Done accents, but not that great, I guess. As you said, ithula Kamal-ai adichikka mudiyathu.
Other points
Ease of performance:
He does not come of as trying too hard. Okay, once he did this in Thambi, which made some hubbers here laugh. But I thought it was purposely over the top to match the eccentricity of the character he was playing.
Unlike others, there is no sense of "look ma I am acting". No self-conscious performance. He just reacts, responses as a character.
Comedy:
I'd say essential for anyone who wants to be a good actor. You must be funny even without the assistance of a comedian. That what made Kamal and Rajini great. That is what Madhavan has.
Presence.
Meaning, no need for build up or soft lenses to make him glow. He has that strong presence and great charisma and easy chemistry with his co stars.
Low point:
If this matters at all, he needs to brush up on stunt. Haang Kaangla poyee martial arts padikka poyirukaaraam. Paarpom.
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Ithu ippothaikku pothumnu nenekkiren. And yes, I am quite free at the moment.
Prabhudeva not a natural actor-nA evvaLavu pEru minjuvaanga ? :huh:Quote:
Originally Posted by groucho070
Grouchi :thumbsup: nice points :clap: :clap:
"look ma I am acting".
best example.... chinna kamalahassan aka Surya :P