In future Bala ARR kooda work panninal ..appuram Bala great-nnu Maddy sandaikku varuvaaru ..athu varai poRuppom :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
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In future Bala ARR kooda work panninal ..appuram Bala great-nnu Maddy sandaikku varuvaaru ..athu varai poRuppom :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
i know... how sad is that... was totally expecting her to win, now when i get to know she was so close to win it, im furious!!! :evil:Quote:
Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
She was EXCELLENT in the film ....
so, neenga Bala-va support panradhu avaru innum ARR kooda work pannaadhudhaan kaaranama :)Quote:
Originally Posted by joe
Sabu cyril for om shanti om..Quote:
Originally Posted by joe
:lol:
thOttA dharaNi for Sivaji maadhiri
Neenga orutharai admire pannuRathu kooda ARR kooda uLla relationship-ai poRuthathu -gra maathiri pala muRai pesirukkeenga.Quote:
Originally Posted by MADDY
I don't like or dislike anybody like that .
Anyway ,serious-a eduthukkateenga 8-)
Oho ..eppadiyo kidacha sari ..Nalla thaan pirichu kodukkuRanga :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Appu s
best animation movie - Inimey naangathan :)
:shock:
காஞ்சிவரம்..பணம் வாங்காத பிரகாஷ் ராஜ்
எனக்கு சிறந்த நடிகருக்கான தேசிய விருது கிடைத்ததை விட, தமிழ்ப் படத்துக்கு விருது கிடைத்தது மகிழ்ச்சியாக உள்ளதாக நடிகர் பிரகாஷ் ராஜ் கூறியுள்ளார்.
`காஞ்சிவரம்' படத்துக்கும் அதில் நடித்த தனக்கும் தேசிய விருதுகள் கிடைத்தது குறித்து பிரகாஷ் ராஜ் கூறுகையில்,
ரொம்ப சந்தோஷமா இருக்கு. எனக்கு சிறந்த நடிகருக்கான விருது கிடைத்ததை விட, தமிழ் படத்துக்கு விருது கிடைத்திருப்பது இன்னும் பெருமையா இருக்கு.
இயக்குனர் பிரியதர்ஷனுக்கு என் முதல் நன்றி. அவர் இந்திப் பட உலகில் பிஸியாக இருந்த நேரத்தில் ஒருநாள் என்னை சந்தித்தார். நான் ஒரு தமிழ் படம் எடுக்கப் போகிறேன். அந்த கதைக்கு நீதான் பொருத்தமாக இருப்பாய். நீ சம்மதித்தால், உடனே அந்த படத்தை எடுப்பேன். இல்லையென்றால் திட்டத்தை தள்ளிப்போடுவேன் என்றார். கதையை அவர் என்னிடம் சொன்போது ஆடிப்போய் விட்டேன்.
பிரியதர்ஷன் என்னிடம் கதையை சொல்லி முடித்தபோது என் கைகள் நடுங்கின, கண்ணீர் விட்டேன். என்னால் எதுவும் பேச முடியவில்லை. நெடு நேரம் ஆனது.. அந்த உணர்ச்சிகளி்ல் இருந்து வெளியே வர. இப்படிப்பட்ட கதையை ஏன் இத்தனை நாட்களாக முடக்கி வைத்திருந்தீ்ர்கள் என்று அவரை திட்டிவிட்டுத் தான் நடிக்க ஒப்புக் கொண்டேன்.
மிகுந்த வலி நிறைந்த பாத்திரம் அது. அதில் நடித்தது எனக்கே ஒரு பயிற்சியாகத்தான் இருந்தது.
இந்த விருது பிரியதர்ஷனுக்கும் அவரது டீமுக்குமே சாறும். அவர் நினைத்திருந்தால் இன்னொரு கமர்சியல் படம் எடுத்து சம்பாதித்து இருக்க முடியும். ஆனால், தனது நேரத்தை நல்ல படத்துக்காக செலவிட்ட மனிதர் அவர் என்றார்.
இதில் நடிக்க பிரகாஷ் ராஜ் பணமே வாங்கவில்லை என்பது யாருக்கும் தெரியாத செய்தி . இப்படிப்பட்ட படத்தில் நடிக்க வாய்ப்பு தந்ததே போதும் என்று சொல்லிவிட்டாராம்.
விருது குறி்த்து இயக்குனர் பிரியதர்ஷன் கூறுகையில்,
25 வருடங்களாக எத்தனையோ படங்களை இயக்கியுள்ளேன். பல விருதுகளையும் பெற்றுள்ளேன். காஞ்சிவரம் படத்திற்கு தேசிய விருது கிடைத்தது மிகுந்த மகிழ்ச்சி தருகிறது.
பிரகாஷ் ராஜுன் நடிப்பே, இந்த படத்திற்கு விருது கிடைக்க முக்கிய காரணம். தமிழ் சினிமா கலைஞர்கள் மிகத் திறமையானவர்கள் என்றார்
sure no probs - adhu appadi aaiduchhu :)Quote:
Originally Posted by joe
SOkka sonnayyaQuote:
Originally Posted by Plum
k_g, I am glad you "caught my point"!
indha madhiri ellam generalise panni assume panni adhula Maddy-oda tastes and preferences derive panna, naa enna panradhu :D ........Quote:
Originally Posted by kid-glove
bollywood-layum yuvvraaj, jodha akbar madhiri waste padangal-a theatre-la paathu whistle adichha koottam dhaan naanga.......i mean, its not that i selectively support good movies for bollywood and choose bad ones for tamil intentionally.....tamil-yum oru DevD illa No smoking varattum - contenees support panren........inga dhaan saanso saaiso illaye.........Bala mattum dhaan best-nnu solli, avaru edukkura extreme ,fantasy movies dhaan right way of filmmaking and support such good efforts-nnu sollikittu thiriya enakku ishtam illa.......
Maddy, andha like-for-like dhaan kashtamngarEn. This is what I said "inge varudhu anga varalainA, anga varadhu inga varalai". You may not like Bala's films, but can you deny that they push the envelope, and expand the horizons as much as(arguably more than, in that they come with popular acceptance) No Smoking. Except Dev D, none of the avant garde Bolly movies are decent hits - Maqbool flopped, Omkara was at best average return; kaminey itself, despite being masalaic, is only average.
To make movies like Pithamagan, and Naan KadavuL, and shove it down the throat of a kicking and screaming tamil mass movies fan, and make him accept it - now, thats a director with a vision, and guts, and ability.
I mean, Pithamagan fantasy-nA, No Smoking enna? magic realism? surrealism?
Maqbool was a hit I say
Does the success of Maqbool mean that the Hindi filmviewer has come of age appidinnu Abbas Tyrewala kitte kELvi kEttu...essay ellAm vaangi pOttAnga ToI-la
No, I dont think so. Look at reviews for Kaminey, people accusing him of selling out by compromising because his previous movies failed commercially.
Hit/Flop - very difficult to say sitting here. Everyone interprets according to their convenience dhaan. But I did read somewhere that he had difficulty finding finance for Omkara, because the money bags were afraid he'll make a maqbool, and he had to rope in stars like (sic) Garina, devagaNam and Safe aligaan so as to sell the movie.
I saw an interview of VB where he says Maqbool was profitable
Naan Mumbai multiplex heartland-il paarthEn...adhunaala I am incapable of providing evidence to the contrary.
Kaminey sell-out aamaa.....adhu maadhiri inge yEn sella maatraangannu kEtta market, culture, sand smell appidinnu ellAm solraanga.
Nevertheless, I object to any appraisals that the average Bollywood fan can think beyond Love Aaj Kal or at the best, Kaminey. Chumma chumma tamizh audience make mass movies of Asith-Visay hit=nuttu, ennamO bollywood fans are intellectual rangeku build up kudukka koodadhu. Fact is Yashraj-Johar-and-now-LoveAajKal types are as much staple to them as the Vijay mass movie to us. It doesnt make the average bolly movie better. What raises their average is the avant garde(Mithya, Cyrus kinds) totally uncompromising movies. The fact that they can be made and released, even if not profitably, is a plus. We dont have that here. That is a problem to be addressed.
kandippa, No Smoking fantasy dhaan........but if Anurag Kashyap keeps making No Smokings and No Drinkings with surrealism and his supporters keep telling he is the most gutsy director and realistic then i would call Anurag Kashyap "overhyped" ......Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
yes, and not hide behind the "supposed" ignorance of this poor tamil movie fan, who has given blockbusters to efforts like nayagan, mudhal mariyadhai, paruthiveeran etc......Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
come to think of it, no. of good movies that run in tamil is much higher than that of indhi.....then where is the problem yaa :x .......why cant tamil directors give good movies and uplift the standards alltogether?? i watched Chennai-28 in theater and rendu in dvd - come on :D ......improve ur writing skills, i say and stop hiding behind culture, language, barriers, ajith-vijay fans' ignorance etc...
PR, I dont want to go into that. I already said that the fact that a movie like Maqbool can be made and released is a victory for bollywood, never mind profits, and that is a state we must aspire for. But we must remember that Kerala had great success with that in 80's, and early 90's. Today look at them - how do you explain that? Time. Circumstances, ennAla avLO dhAn solla mudiyum.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Kamal-ku creative juices pOradhukkuLLa, inge andha nelamai vandhA sandhosham dhaan - I wonder what not can he achieve if he didnt have to justify box office returns - the kind of freedom with which Kashyap and Bhardwaj swing their bats, if people like Kamal and Bala have it....
The answer to most of the questions - to a large part I won't say that is the only problem - is that there aren't as many good creators around.
Even if that is not the biggest reason I find people are trying to look the other way about this all the time.
Kamal - the writer/creator - is a cut above the rest because something intangibly huger than the content as such. I can't place a finger on it. It is an overall sense of characterizations and depth..which is woefully inadequate.
That subramaniapuram is being passed off as 'true to its chosen milieu' is something I find unacceptable. Thankfully Nadodigal was not. But I wonder if Nadodigal had been released first and then Su.Pu how the reactions would have been. adhai thaan sonnEn.
True there is no VKK in Hindi. As I said earlier..the nature of the language is such. Perhaps set it in some place in UP such that the dialect is not intelligible to many. But if such a movie - in whatever labguage that would end up being in- were made I am certain they have the writers to be able to do justice to 'reality' of the characterizations.
Gulaal - a very ordinary, localized film. But convincing was never a problem - even though it had outrageous characters. Thamizh-la ezhudhiruvaangannu 'ndreengaLA ?
Well put, Plum. Let's hope so...Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
PR, I dont think Abbas Tyrewallah can write a Paruthiveeran. Didnt see Gulaal.
What's his name, the Jab We Met kid, he surely cannot write a Virumandi.
(Infact, I really wonder how accurate the punjabiyat of Jab We Met is. A few portions were jarring when I saw it - cant remember now)
Remember the "okati ledhu" of Virumandi? Hindi-la oruthan porakkalingarEn, apdi ezhudharathukku.
this is what i saidQuote:
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
plum, PR-e sollittaru, ippavadhu othhukkongo :)Quote:
Originally Posted by MADDY
Lack of talent- well, give it some time. As and when the industry has grown to an extent that financing, production and distribution of independent and/or offbeat cinema is possible, the talented writer/director/auteur will emerge, in numbers.
solla enna irukku Maddy. I grant all that already. The only gripe I have with your views is placing Bala below a Kashyap or Bhardwaj. He is no less. In some ways, Naan KadavuL or Pithamagan is a movie that Bollywood can never make and release, forget making a box office hit of it.
Last 2 weeks, 10 movies released in Bollywood, do you know that? How many of them were memorable? I guess from BR's site that only a few of them were released in Chennai. There is even a Bollywood ritheesh, a visually challenged guy from London who produced, wrote and starred in a dud! IdhellAm nIngaLLAm miss pandreengannu nenaikkaaren. What I am saying is there are equal number of duds of equal quality in Bollywood also. Sometimes, people down south only see the best of Bollywood and compare it to Pasanga, Naturally, kollywood loses deposit there.
As I agreed, where they score is that some movies they make, no way it can be made in Tamil now. Then again, we agreed, for whatever reasons, that they cant make a paruthiveeran. I contend that neither Kashyap, nor Tyrewala, nor the Jab We met kid can write a paruthiveeran or Naan KadavuL or Virumandi.
Inga oru note:
Love Aajkals Savaraajs >> Films like the one that guy Hari doing (Madurai based!). Beauty enna na even in the herd game, these guys are pretty late. This should have come during the time of Sullan, Sivakasi etc...
Love Aaj Kal = pinnacle of its genre(which can be said to be a refined version of yashraj)
So, cant compare with Vel or ATM.
Compare it with the pinnacle of the genre of Vel, ATM etc. kaNakku sariyA varum. Or even Subramanyapuram.
Infact, if you present LAK as a fine version of its genre, I'll present Virumandi as the pinnacle of the Madurai genre, and you'll lose deposit!
and how many virumandis have swarmed our market? but they are giving LAK, Jab we met, socha na tha, ahista ahista consistently - whichever way u look at it, no competition i sayQuote:
Originally Posted by Plum
Obviously i can't compare Sullan/Sivakasi etc with anything in Indhi then because that genre does not exist(?) there (Isn't that "itself" a point in favor of BW?)!Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
I'm presenting LAK as something loathsome from Bollywood and i'm saying the worst of BW is > the worst of KW
Blood boils when we see the araajagam of designer crap and the mandatory foreign locales and opulence. Yet, what one feels when one watches *our* crap is something more (The loudness, aaarg!) . The only redemption is "comedy" but ippo adhuvum konjam lighta adi vaangudhu...
Let's take another department we own/have been owning - music.
There is loud kuthu paattu dominance in our industry. OTOS, i rarely see a "melliflous" duet - 94% club dance songs.. guruppa aadi paadraanga. Yet, even if i dont like the songs, they dont hurt my ears like our staple kuthu songs do.
I still believe namma music directors dhaan best nu but we need to be careful here
Amit thambi adichhu thookkittaru andha department-ayum......i was about to come there - sorry for bringing DevD everywhere - did we have a album like DevD in tamil for last 5 yrs.......i would say, even ARR's tamil albums pale in front of DevDQuote:
Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
ennatha independent film movement. Opening ellAm nallA thAn irunthuthu, AnA thalaivar okAnthu oru 400 words padikka mAtEngurAru. "You are unseletted"-nu solli thaNNi theLichchu vittAlAvathu paravA illa, athayum seyyAmA remba tensan paNrAru!Quote:
Originally Posted by kid-glove
Good point on the music. It is slowly and steadily declining. Even in the Malayalam film industry the music was the last to go.
Love Aaj Kal, Jab We Met, Socha Na Tha, Ahista Ahista. First two are hits, last two aren't. Varying levels of quality and craftsmanship, too.
Virumandi, Subramnayapuram(our objections dont count, if you dismiss SMP, I can dismiss JWM too).
Irritating genre we have but they dont - so-called mass movies
Irritating genre they have but we dont - tere sang, teen love, stupid college movies
dhaanikki dheenkiki sari poyindi.
And as I said, I am not sure if you are exposed to the worst of bollywood at all - like do you know the name of the movie that released with a visually-challenged-in-real-life hero, that was essentially a mass-movie-types-but-set-in-designer-clothes-style-of-bollywood? (Talk of taking the worst of two worlds!)
Music - we are slowly losing out, yes.
Well, anyone who grew up in the 80's'd be astounded at Bollywood today. Who ever thought this was possible?
I can only hope that like the usual WWTBAM->KBC->K happening in that sequence, even such movie making which started in Hollywood decades ago, and which has started in Bollywood recently, will start in Tamil in near future.
(NOTE: Kerala preceded Bollywood here-ngaradhai naan solla kadamai pattirukkirEn!)
Plum,
I think the fundamental difference is that they cater to people at different slabs in the Maslow hierarchy. But within their slabs both tend to slip into cliche's and generalize etc... The difference in Bollywood is that there seems to be some semblance of an overall creative vision at the least. Kollywood-la athu kooda illa. They are still allowing banality citing "market requirements" and such as an excuse.
If you are talking nativity - he can't write. He has mentioned in an interview that the only city in the world he can really care about is Bombay - that too South Bombay. He was blunt about that admission.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
If you are talking about 'stuff' - its not that he can't write PV, he won't :lol2: