eppidi orE sentence-la contradict paNNikkureeenga :lol2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Shakthiprabha
J/k Nice post :thumbsup:
Whether she was unloved because of her character or the otherway round is a chicken-egg question. Nice persepctive
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eppidi orE sentence-la contradict paNNikkureeenga :lol2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Shakthiprabha
J/k Nice post :thumbsup:
Whether she was unloved because of her character or the otherway round is a chicken-egg question. Nice persepctive
exactly :) :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by P_R
I meant unusual in Tamil cinema.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shakthiprabha
SP,
Nice perspective!
Looking back, I'm sure a lot of thought went into shaping each of the characters in any great movie, not just the hero / heroine.
MM is one movie where all the characters easily come to life in front of you (done by capable artists as well) in a nice canvass superbly supported by music / lyrics!
While that may be so, the director portrays Vadivukkarasi's character very unsympathetically. It is to SP's credit that she saw beyond that veneer, not the director's credit.
Good choice, SP - keep going :thumbsup:
PRABHAKAR, M.A. : A morbid character who is forlorn by the disparity that exists in this society. He is bound by inferiority complex and a very disturbing and pathetic childhood memory. But at the same time he also longs for a decent life which he thinks he really deserves. And when this “ decent “ life and his child hood girl interest, whom he loves the most in this world, is denied to him, his demeanour transforms into dangerous levels of eccentricity and turns him into a psychopathic cold blooded murderer.
One can easily get depressed after watching the traumatic experiences this character undergoes. But still, it leaves an indelible mark on the viewer just for the plain fact that he is not a guy from the Mars but could possibly be one among us. There’s just a thin line that separates us from being rational & becoming insane. And unfortunately, Prabhakar happens to be on the wrong side. Being such a natural & “ it may happen to anybody “ kind of a character, Prabhakar becomes yet another of my favourite characters on screen.
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1. Maadippadi Maadhu
2. Server Sundaram
3. Major Chandrakanth
varusham 16 - vk ramasamy
aan paavam - vk ramasamy
mouna raagam - vk ramasamy
does she? she is equally non-chalant abt her kid too, i guess........i think she is flat out "unkind" ......Quote:
Originally Posted by Shakthiprabha
yes, thats where i dislike this character, she didnt have any rights to destroy Sivaji's life (in film) ........i felt, Radha's character was better sculpted in the movie.....Quote:
She lived a dream life, lived for a man who never cared a penny for her
what disparity? professors in govt colleges get 60k salary nowadays.......recession and subsequent suffering* of IT people really watered down this movies' arguements....Quote:
Originally Posted by rangan_08
at best, we can equate this character to the age old "honest, straight forward" person's story - the pozhakka theriyadhavan characters like ambi(anniyan), rajini in 6to60 etc with a pyscological imbalance angle........
*enna perusa suffer pannitteengannu yaarachhu ketkaradhu munnadi, please try to find out horror stories of Indian IT professionals in USA during recession........
M.A padicha ethana peru professor aagi 60 aayiram sambalam vanguranga?Quote:
Originally Posted by MADDY
I always find it interesting to analyse "WHYS" and "WHY NOTS" of weird characters maddy. I think that makes us understand deeper human emotions not just what is shown superficially outward.Quote:
Originally Posted by MADDY
"Liking" a char ofcourse, most of us like the heroic "goody goody" nicey characters.
I suppose I ANALYSED vadivukarasi char and hence could UNDERSTAND and sympthise with the char. This is beyond liking or not liking :)
Prabu Deva's character in Kadhala Kadhala..
My most favorite characters on screen.
Karthik in Mouna Raagam.
Rukmini Vijayakumar in Aanandha Thandavam (im in love with her).
Ramya Krishnan in Padaiyappa.
Radhika in Jeans.
Delhi Ganesh in Avvai Shanmugi.
Surya in Pithamagan.
Vadivelu in Vetri Koddi Katte.
Vadivelu in Paatali (in female get up).
Goundamani in Baba.
Shalini's father in Alaipayuthey.
:notworthy: Finally, a recognition. Though he seemed like a jalra to Baba (Naangga saamiya kindal pannuvom, mudinja maamiyayum kindal pannuvom) he is a commentator of especially of the ridiculous thing the friend indulges in (Mootta tookurathukkellam cheers-adaa?).Quote:
Originally Posted by dinesh2002
Ennadhu annan andha padathula jalraa-va?!!! :shock:Quote:
Originally Posted by groucho070
SS-a mudinja alavukku nakkal adichirupar.
When Sangavi ignores annan, he says,
"paarumma, neengellam paapengannu thaan Baba podura indha karumaandhrathellam poda vendiyadhaayiruku!" :rotfl2:
Well, more of a Jalra who can cross the board :lol: That's why I said he's also commentator of the ridiculous. Remember Baba agrees to whatever he says, shakes hand to the point where he has to say, "Poothumbaa!". Or, maybe Baba was his jalra in the early atheist scenes....don't touch that!!! :P
My favourite characters ranked
1. Alex PAndian
2. PAlakkAttu mAdhavan
3. nAdhas
4. 23 pulikEsi
5. nAgarAja chOzhan
Kalpana (Asin) character in Ghajini.......one of the most heart wrenching characters brought out so well by A.R.M.......to be fair, after watching Hindi version only, i realised the astronomical tragedy around this character :) ......esp the "kaise mujhe" song exemplifies this.....
Asin-a paathhe paridhaabam vandhudhe, idhe genelia-vo, tamanna-vo pannirundha, rendu naalu geofferys-laye kedandhu iruppen :D
:lol: adhula parunga....moodhevi, moodhevi... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
:banghead: Maddy avargaley, yen indha kola veri ???Quote:
Originally Posted by MADDY
I was just trying to explain why that character became insane. Obviously disparity was a main reason. Vayitherichal pudichavangaley indha ulagathula illaya ??? In this case, Prabhakar vayiru romba erinjadhala, avar mandayum erinjupochu , and that was brought out well in that film and naturally, the character also made an impact in the minds of a few audience, like me :D
Mathapadi, there's nothing against teckies here. Unnoda uzhaippukku unnoda verva, ennoda uzhaippukku ennoda verva..... :D
Another unforgettable character...
Shaamee, enakku oru unma therinjaganum.
MANIVANNAN ~ Amaidhipadai
what a casually cool hilarious performance :clap: :clap:
Personally I want to ask MV: anna.. indha dialogue allam eppadingna screen'la kondu varreenga.. ethanai room pOttu yosichalum indha madhiri kidaikkadhu :clap: :clap:
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For this specific reason I like MV & K Baghyaraj.. pora pOkkula dialogues konduvaruvanga
Rangan, i had big problems with the film- the way director shows disparity - he is earning 2k and his friend earns 2L per month..........did that director ever step into a IT firm and did some basic fact finding.........seri vidunga, IT pasangala criticise panradhu dhaan fesan :)
MADDY, that scenes was hilarious.
Scene setting-ku "Dude get me a burger"-nu oru kural kEkkum :lol2:
Most memorable line being one of the cubicle fellows passing a plastic folder saying: indha file-ai avunga kitta kuduthurunga :lol:
But the film was very narrowly understood. It had a wider context. 'Rage against alienization and fiery egotism' is something quite difficult to bring out on screen. And they had done a terrific job of that in that movie.
ennamo ponga, padam enakku suthhama pudikkala.......except for u1's score and BGM - brilliant yaa 8-)Quote:
Originally Posted by P_R
Pammal Uvve Sambandam
MADDY,Quote:
Originally Posted by MADDY
The thing is he might have got the average numbers wrong in the respective fields, but in reality, we all know that the sort of disparity shown in the film is not unusual at all. Unfortunately though, the film muddles up things and ends up not raising the right questions. In fact, I think the film betrays a sort of middle-classness in the kind of questions it raises.
nowadays after recession, we get to see ADs in Matrimonials saying "software people, please excuse" (it was so reminiscent of "brokers, please excuse" ads in mumbai and bangalore real estate ads :rotfl3:) ........ippa naa padam edukkatuma - katradhu Java-nnu - ada pongappa
Oorvasi - MagaLir mattum. Absolutely lovable.
Maddy, as PR said, andha character alienize avaradhukku, they need a reason, and this time, computer guys maatnanga, that's it ! :D
Vayila irundhu poga varra alavukku vayitherichal pudicha Dharumi-ellam naama paakaliya - adhu comedy, idhu serious, avlodhan. :D
And to be honest, Jeeva's stunning performance was another reason for me to consider it as a fav. char. on screen.
The tv intree bit of public where on guy says he has had to shift out of the city:
பூந்தமல்லி வரைக்கும் போயிட்டேன் சார்....அங்கயும் வரானுங்க சார்
Had me and my friend (who was searching for a house then), in splits. Even now he is hunting for affordable, good accomodation and is faced with outrageously distant choices. We keep referring to this line in the discussions.
Equa's line about the rage being essentially 'middle class' in its roots is true. But why is that a failing ?
and when people call such "illogical jealousy" on IT guys as "lovable/enjoyable" , then i feel director has been successful in alienating IT guys infact :) .....Quote:
Originally Posted by rangan_08
i wanted to respond to P_R abt alienating stuff - director just alienates us.......it was a self-righteous, rhetoric at current day's economic imbalance, to please the gallery........at best, it can be called a "Dark" shankar movie......did the director research on real reason for economic imbalance in this country?? do u think price rise in real estate is just bcos of IT guys?? adhula evalavu factors irukku.....DKMB
MADDY, what is "logical jealousy" ? What is நியாயமான ஆத்திரம் ?Quote:
Originally Posted by MADDY
Does someone's pain become unreal because it is not justifiable ? That was all the movie was about, in my reading. In fact I had even ventured to say it was about an artist's arrogance. The artist believes he is a superior being. But he is treated with scorn by the society, which doesn't have the 'ability' to understand him and will only abuse him work - by making a pimp out of him to impress a girl to get laid.
That the gallery chose to be pleased and missed the point can't be held against the film. Thank God, it didn't bother doing the research on the economic conditions etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by MADDY
Well, because the population that the film intends to “represent” is hardly middle-class! (Prabhakar is, but that's exactly my criticism.) On the contrary, the new middle class is what Prabhakar sees all over the IT companies. (Ram even crosscuts the scene in the IT company his friend is working at, with a lunch-time scene in a yesteryear government office.) And the questions/concerns regarding the various courses available for students to take (again very middle-class), etc. is to completely miss the point. Prabhakar happens to choose the Tamil course for some reasons (and the film builds its questions on top of this), but is that actually how people get thrown into completely different worlds? Throughout the film, Prabhakar remains this exception who talks for “those people.”Quote:
Originally Posted by P_R
KT is just a chennai-centric story!
Middle class kiddle class ellam othukka mudiyaadhu, 1000-2000-thukellam plot vaangi pottavan ellam ippo 50L, 70L sambadhichitrukaan. Just watch the queue at jewel and textile shops, I find this only in the past 7 years. Its a sequential of growth. IT mattum valaralaye...?
Btw Chennai has become such a confused city! :roll:
Intentional Fallacy-ya innum gettiyA pudichikitturkkInga :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by P_R
jealousy-e illogical dhaan-nnu sonnen......there are some sections of people who are really deprived and if they feel sore, it makes a point.......to show his pain, if he tells "unfair/unreal" things abt us - i dont take it lightly and my "shane warne salute" to his arrogance.......Quote:
Originally Posted by P_R
nee sollu pa, how many of you and your colleagues own a house in chennai (not daddy/mummy's)?? this film builds a surreal environment and twisted situations/ comic book IT employee characters to make the point.......and equa solra madhiri adhuvum panradhilla.....Quote:
Originally Posted by 19thmay
//i really pity doctors, policemen, politicians who are being ripped apart in movies, i dunno how they feel :lol: .....//