My favorite work is Iruvar. Nayagan has its 'inspiration' imsai sadly, to become my second most favorite film. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by complicateur
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My favorite work is Iruvar. Nayagan has its 'inspiration' imsai sadly, to become my second most favorite film. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by complicateur
Iruvar > KM, just my opinion.
And Iruvar is better than Nayagan too.
As for Anjali, I previously posted a PFC article which I seem to agree with. Mani certainly inspires from TKAM, and in many ways, he has come out alright. Though "Anjali" in the end falls prey to its denouement. The characters and their relations are certainly derived from "To Kill a Mockingbird". Shekar is Atticus, and "Boo" is shared between Prabhu, and at different times, Anjali and Janagaraj, Arjun and Arun are Scout and Jem, the Bob is not a racist here, but a criminal, and it's not a wrongly accused rape case, and unlike Atticus, Shekhar is a mere witness. Mani's optimism wanes unlike TKAM. Anjali's Boo (Prabhu) kills Anjali's Bob, but he is also taken off and acquitted to jail (Again). Boo is a social misfit like Janakaraj, but the latter is taken to the asylum. Boo is mentally challenged, but he has this fondness for kids, like Anjali. But Mani decides to share Boo's character with Prabhu's character, Janakaraj and an Autistic child, and from the beginning to end, he intends to use the characters as emotionally manipulative element. None more so than Anjali. That's where I believe Chitra's character fits in.
In any case, I find this interesting. And I don't mean to say he has totally derived from TKAM by any means. But I find it to be an interesting parallel. :)
And One particular thing that Mani hasn't lost it is the kids.
Arjun and Anu evolve through the length of the film, while they start off with lies, false maturity, and childish tricks - IMO, they are no less irritating kids than Scout and Jem. In the end, there is a definite change, not exactly "mature", but a new-found understanding of the world. A&A are confronted by Anjali's reappearance, her condition, and their father's tussle with the criminal (Like Scout and Jem's with boo and Atticus' tussle with Bob). But this being suburban Chennai, I'd assume it's far fetched to expect Racism being part of the theme. What Mani succeeds at, as I said, the film as windows of the children (A&A). Towards the end, they have compassionate sibling love for Anjali inspite of her condition, and the fear of Prabhu is rightfully lost. In TKAM, Scout and Jem have similar change with Boo as the film goes by.
:shock: That's the biggest negative of Anjali in particular and Mani films in general IMOQuote:
Originally Posted by thilak4life
i hate kids in manis movies :mad:
just now realised how mani combined to kill a mocking bird and ET in his movie :)
That was in context to TKAM's kids, he hasn't lost the essence of the book. The bold part below.Quote:
Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
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Arjun and Anu evolve through the length of the film, while they start off with lies, false maturity, and childish tricks - IMO, they are no less irritating kids than Scout and Jem. In the end, there is a definite change, not exactly "mature", but a new-found understanding of the world. A&A are confronted by Anjali's reappearance, her condition, and their father's tussle with the criminal (Like Scout and Jem's with boo and Atticus' tussle with Bob). But this being suburban Chennai, I'd assume it's far fetched to expect Racism being part of the theme. What Mani succeeds at, as I said, the film as windows of the children (A&A). Towards the end, they have compassionate sibling love for Anjali inspite of her condition, and the fear of Prabhu is rightfully lost. In TKAM, Scout and Jem have similar change with Boo as the film goes by.
I got that but couldn't agree with this :)Quote:
Originally Posted by thilak4life
[Upd: chi, read that again :oops: ... i mean Scout and Jem are nothing compared to our brats here]
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IMO, they are no less irritating kids than Scout and Jem.
yes... :?Quote:
Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
tkamb kids not even irritated 20% as much as the anjali kids.
Not even their characterizations? Scout and Jem are written with similar "adhigaprasangithanam", but they do have a feel of childlike quality about 'em. But when you adopt it into motion pictures, there are other elements which could come into this. Acting, dialogue delivery, etc. Mani's kids suffer from a pseudo-voice pivoting them, and his long history of kids portrayal leads us to believe this way. In fact, Most of his kids act, and behave like a young Suhasini, too irritating for their own good. If you get what I mean.Quote:
Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
But I believe the characters A&A are no less irritating kids than Scout and Jem. This is of course with respect to Shekhar/Atticus, and other adults. Not necessarily my "reaction" to them. Or their acting in general.
Vivasaayi,
This could be because of acting, language, and the way they deliver some lines. But If you ask a random person of this film in isolation, who doesn't know Tamil and perhaps even Mani's history, there is a strong possibility of 'em not feeling irritated of the kids as we are.
And yeah, most of what I wrote above is in terms of theme of the film, and the characters. Sure I didn't really "love" the kids. But, my reaction to them is no different from my reaction to Scout and Jem. Though with Scout and Jem, their "innocence" were striking, but with A&A, you don't get that feeling.