// hey his politics shames that of Amma/MK.//
Why refer to Amma/MK?
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// hey his politics shames that of Amma/MK.//
Why refer to Amma/MK?
Rama is the one who is Eka patni vrathan; who cries when the spouse was abducted; who was loving and caring for SitA.
Rama never ever wished to kill the enemies. From the very first thaatakai, he hesitated to kill her as she was a woman; He let Maareecha go away; while he killed subaahu; He even wished to forgive Ravana and gave ample chances for him to surrender.
kaRpaar raamapiraanai allaal maRRum kaRparO?- asks NammAzhwAr.. why would anyone learn anything but Rama?
This also echoes AndAL’s calling Rama as mantthukkuinyaan.
Sri Kodai Nachiar pays a rare tribute to Sri Rama in Sri Tiruppavai- She calls Him ‘Manatthukku iniyAn’, a sobriquet She doesn’t use with regard to any other avatArA, though several have been alluded to in Tiruppavai.
it must have been a question of Honesty. An honest person endears himself to us much more than one who is not.
When we think of Sri Rama, what comes to our mind immediately is the upright figure, who would rather give His life, than speak untruth.
‘RamO dvir nAbhi bhAshatE’ says Sri Valmiki, confirming the Prince’s penchant for adhering to His word, irrespective of the travails they may land Him in. Further, as He himself confirms, ‘anritam na uktapoorvam mE na cha vakshyE kadAchana’(I have never told an untruth in the past, nor shall I ever do so).
Can anyone tell me where I get, "Seetha Rama patabhishegha sthothiram"...(in tamil)
Web address?
Regards
rsankar.
Ah! Beautiful ... Splendid presentation... Hats off to my dear Friend Mr viggop. My comments on your remarks...Quote:
Originally Posted by viggop
"Manaththukkiniyaan"
Andal Kodhai, attributes so... not out of her own... but as the TAMIL-WORD...TRANSLATION coined for the word Rama.
"Karpaar Ramapiraanai allaal matrum karparoa? -THIRUVAAYMOZHI"
These words of Nammaalwaar mean... the Greatness of Rama as an Ideal-man... exhibiting the basic strengths and weaknesses innate for the Mankind, like Enrage, Grief, Desire etc....
...and under the grip of such emotions how any man is prone to react...
... and what will be the outcome of the Positive and Negative spirits in the course of Human-life...
...far different and unique, discernible from all other Creatures ... inferior to Man.
Rather Rama is the only Awathara, where He has shown to the posterity, both the sides of Life... as an Exemplary and Emulative Model-man... even by self-indictment of UNDUE sufferings...
... just to establish the Greatness as well as the Topmost principles one shoud adhere to in Life...
...which are... RIGHTEOUSNESS, VICTORY for TRUTH, and JUSTICE to all, even to the Oppressed or Dominated VICTIM..by any means of exploitation from the Wickeds.
Hence Rama is named as SATHYA-VRATHA, SATHYA-NARAYANA, SATHYA-KAAMA, SATHYA-SANKALPA....
To sum up... the Lesson meant here... is.. SATHYAM AEVA JAYATHAE.
To mean... JUSTICE BY TRUTH ONLY WINS
..Mankind should sincerely adhere to RIGHTEOUSNESS ONLY....
In extreme cases God will personally interfere to set right
Dear Sudhaama Sir
As usual, i just copied and pasted that snippet here and it was not my own writing. :-)
Thanks for your explanation on it
Dear Raghu,
Yes. Ravana had many noble qualities. As a king he ruled well over his subjects. His musical talent (at par with Naradha) could have only stemmed out of a well cultivated mind. Even when he brought Sita to his town he did maintain his distance- forget the curse. He listened to Vibhishana's advice that envoys should not be killed- and let Hanuman go free. He let Vibhishana to cross over to Rama's side. In the battlefield he did not surrender.
But he dedired many women who did not rightly belong to him. Also He treated the Devas harshly disgracing them to perform menial tasks. He encouraged his raksashas to disturb the yagams(rituals) performed by the rishis.
So he had a long and victorious life till his merits and boons protected him. At the end he had to be punished for his evil doings.
Please give your comments on this. I also ask any other interested person to join in and continue this topic further.
Regards,
Siva
***Even when he brought Sita to his town he did maintain his distance*** ????
What about the undoing of her saree and Hanumanji got there just on time?
Dear Siva,Quote:
Originally Posted by siva
I fully agree with your points about Ravana, but many here have failed to address he was big Maheshwar Bhaktha, to be continued...
Dear Raghu
I think i have mentioned this before.He was not a great bhaktha of Shiva.He abused the trinity many times due to his arrogance.He sang devotional songs on Shiva only after his arrogance was crushed by shiva's toe.Before that, he asked "Who is Shankara?" to Nandi when Nandi asked him to take another route.
Even after this, after getting boons from Shiva , he abused Shiva,Vishnu,Brahma many times.Only before the last battle in which he died , he again performed the Shiva pooja.but of course, Kamban writes that the arrows Of Rama wiped out all the boons in one stroke. :-)
Dear Viggop,
I have heard some where Ravan played the veena to please Maheshwar, as he made Ishwar angry for some reason.
I think the moral values behind this is that, no matter how ever much u devotee towards Isa(IShwar) as u posses bad qualities within you and u indulge ur self in Maya , ur atma will never attain Moksha or be a noble atma (punitha atma) am I right?