Maestro ilaiyaraaja news & titbits

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Originally Posted by prasad_subbu

Kamal is struggling to give one hit for several years in Tamil

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Ayya,
Welcome to planet earth
Manmadhan Ambu - Flop
UPO - Hit
Dasavatharam - Blockbuster
Vettaiyaadu Vilaiyaadu - Blockbuster
Rama Shyama Bhama - Superhit
Mumbai Express - Flop
Vassol Raaja MBBS - Hit
Virumaandi - Hit
Anbe Sivam - Flop

1. Thiruvaasagam would have been better had Raaja not sung
2. Raaja should speak this and not that. Rahman should speak this, could have spoken that.
3. Kamal is struggling to give hits for the last century
4. What next??? Raaja should wear blue colour veshti? Kamal does not enough money to pay his Neelankarai house rent?

Santhanam should make way for the real slim shady :notworthy:

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Originally Posted by Bala (Karthik)

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1. Thiruvaasagam would have been better had Raaja :

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Hi,

I have different point of view on the above statement. No one cannot bring the feel on thiruvasagam like IR and he was able to bring because he felt and moved with the lines. I feel if some other singer sings, wud have been done as another song, u cannot enjoy like this.

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Originally Posted by Devaraagam

Hi,

I have different point of view on the above statement. No one cannot bring the feel on thiruvasagam like IR and he was able to bring because he felt and moved with the lines. I feel if some other singer sings, wud have been done as another song, u cannot enjoy like this.

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Devaraagam
Of course! That is not my opinion. The 4 points listed above are from prasad_subbu's posts

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Originally Posted by prasad_subbu

Kamal is struggling to give one hit for several years in Tamil.

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Loss reports keep coming( even now :lol2: ) for so called Industry Blockbusters. Compared to that, kamal not only has given original blockbusters too, he has been more stable in maintaining both the Mass + Class Hero, successfully.

But what to do, பிரசாத்_சுப்பு மாதிரியே நாட்ல பலபேருக்கு மூளை இருக்கவேண்டிய இடத்துல முட்டைகோஸ் இல்ல இருக்கு?!

Bala sir
vasool raja superhit dhane? :roll:

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Originally Posted by raghavendran

Bala sir
vasool raja superhit dhane? :roll:

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Virumaandi koodathaan super hit. Bala sir, avaiyadakkam? :)

Raghavendran/Ajay
Raging hit nu ellaam solla mudiyaadhu illaya, adhaan was conservative

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Originally Posted by Plum

Ir should say X about Y. Rahman should say Z about IR. Mbbs doctor prescribe paNnittArpA? Can somebody recommend these fellers as speech writers for Raja and Rahman. And they can't even see the irony of the megalomania which leads them to prescribe behaviour for Raja and Rahman. Someone said it is ironic I(plum) talk about arrogance. What irony? I know everything about an arrogant mind. Who better than me to identify your arrogance? :). First of all, have the humility to understand that a creative mind of the order of Raja will not think like yours. You simply cannot presume avarukkum rendu kannu dhaane, avarum naanum onnu. You aren't. Try to accomodate different ways and behaviour, esp from a genius. And try to first understand what he is saying before getting sanctimonious. If not, you are just an arrogant pri*k who doesn't even have the volume of genius and achievement of the arrogant man whose arrogance you criticise.If your response is to point my character flaws, please understand that that's so not the point. You can evaluate me at your level for we are both insignificants with nothing but empty invective to throw in forumsdz. But if you presume you have the wisdom, experience, knowledge of psychology, and understanding of human mind to come with your half baked theories on Raja, then I must say I have never met a megalomaniac like you. Glad to meet you, humility mafia.

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Being Ardent fan of IR and listening to him through out my prime life, I have always felt he did not get due recognition. Having him as music idol of my time, comes with some expectation on the way he expresses himself in public forum. You have your own way of expecting not expecting things from a genius. Who certified you are correct? It is just your way and you are entitled for it. This is my way and I am sure so many others way.

Yes, we are insignificant compared to what he has achieved. No doubt. But millions of insignificants thinking will make it significant, because there will not be purpose of any artist without fan base. So millions of fans feels like me, then it has a value. I have seen in several occassions youngsters shunning him(not for music) for the way he talks in any public event raising controversy of some sort. You may say it is their loss. But if there are plenty of loss, it is in a way IR's and our loss too as his fans. I have seen writing of sureshkumar(the guy who reviews music) saying that he somehow could not get his room mate to even listen IR song for opinion. This I feel due to the younger generation's opinion on IR as a person as he conveys himself in public.

Finally you don't have to take a personal dig on people who are IRs fan like but with different expectations. Nobody is doing it on you, right?

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Originally Posted by Bala (Karthik)

Ayya,
Welcome to planet earth
Manmadhan Ambu - Flop
UPO - Hit
Dasavatharam - Blockbuster
Vettaiyaadu Vilaiyaadu - Blockbuster
Rama Shyama Bhama - Superhit
Mumbai Express - Flop
Vassol Raaja MBBS - Hit
Virumaandi - Hit
Anbe Sivam - Flop

1. Thiruvaasagam would have been better had Raaja not sung
2. Raaja should speak this and not that. Rahman should speak this, could have spoken that.
3. Kamal is struggling to give hits for the last century
4. What next??? Raaja should wear blue colour veshti? Kamal does not enough money to pay his Neelankarai house rent?

Santhanam should make way for the real slim shady :notworthy:

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First of all, I am as much fan of Kamal in acting as IR in music. He motivated me to do some workouts and stay in shape.

I still stand in my opinion of IR singing full Thiruvasagam by himself. To me voice too matters. But I am seeing and respecting your opinions too. As I mentioned in my previous posts, it would have been very difficult to find a singer who can understand and emote, but not impossible. There are lot of Bhajan, devotional singers in TN, whose name we will not be familiar with. But as the project is funded in unique way, they might not had constraints in doing it. I don't think only IR singing can do justice. That is my opinion and that is what I expressed. Don't see anything wrong in it.

Regarding your list of Kamal hits, I atleast witnessed about movie vettaiyadu vilayadu. I was in TN during that time and saw that movie on Satyam complex on fourth day with my friend. Just went and bought tickets. It became Housefull eventually, but was not like first week. Also even me being a fan of Kamal do not find it great even though I watched it 3 times(subsequently in DVD and all). If this is definition of blockbuster, then may be today's block busters are like that. I think you made some of Kamal's so so movies as hit(you should be just a fan like me).

Kamal was struggling for last few years and could not get proper sponsor for Marmayogi. I read it in one of magazines and I think it is shelved. correct me, if I am wrong.
Now he is doing Viswaroopam(don't know whether it is his own production) which is good. Trailer do not look promising to me. I am very happy for his Holywood opportunity. He is getting it very late for what he has achieved.

I answered myself to plum on what I expect from my music idol on public forums. I actually talked about ARR opinions in support of what Sakala felt and ended up having Mutaai koos in place of brain.

prasad_subbu
I don't give a damn about whose fan you are. Your statements on Kamal are factually a steaming pile of bull crap (it has nothing to do with what you or I like or dislike). Maybe when you visit earth next time, you will know better.

What is this? Raja BGM only?!
http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/t...cle/82836.html

layman,

'Samrajyam', the movie's whose sequel Perarasu is supposed to direct, had music by Raja. It had no songs but the BGM was quoted in this forum quite often. It can so happen that they decided to have no songs in the sequel as well. In which case Raja will provide only the BGM.

prasad,

When we argue based on anecdotal evidence it will get us nowhere. Your friends don't like something, someone else wrote that his/her friend doesn't like something etc, cannot be taken seriously and can be countered by someone else saying, "I know 1000s of youngsters who love Raja because of the way he speaks in public. He doesn't give a shit about what people think. That is how we must be machan". This will only take us back and forth. All that can be said is that you have some expectation from Raja on how he should behave in public. And that is exactly that, just one opinion. Nothing more. Nothing less. As they say in management, "Never take your PPT seriously". Same way don't take your opinion too seriously. It is not that we think you are a top class guy whose opinion matters and so we are replying. We are just replying, one, to be polite. Two, because we hold opinions counter to yours about Raja. I think you have beaten your drum too long. It may be worthwhile if you can stop the same beat again and again. We hear you loudly but we don't care.

Regarding Kamal, as Bala(K) put it kindly, what you are talking is completely against available evidence. Again, anecdotal evidence of getting tickets on 4th day itself does not consititute clinching evidence. Moreover, if the discussion is going to spill out about Kamal, can you take it to the Tamil Film section. I can assure you there will be more than enough people there willing to engage with you. Let us keep this thread for Raja.

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Originally Posted by Sureshs65

prasad,

When we argue based on anecdotal evidence it will get us nowhere. Your friends don't like something, someone else wrote that his/her friend doesn't like something etc, cannot be taken seriously and can be countered by someone else saying, "I know 1000s of youngsters who love Raja because of the way he speaks in public. He doesn't give a shit about what people think. That is how we must be machan". This will only take us back and forth. All that can be said is that you have some expectation from Raja on how he should behave in public. And that is exactly that, just one opinion. Nothing more. Nothing less. As they say in management, "Never take your PPT seriously". Same way don't take your opinion too seriously. It is not that we think you are a top class guy whose opinion matters and so we are replying. We are just replying, one, to be polite. Two, because we hold opinions counter to yours about Raja. I think you have beaten your drum too long. It may be worthwhile if you can stop the same beat again and again. We hear you loudly but we don't care.

Regarding Kamal, as Bala(K) put it kindly, what you are talking is completely against available evidence. Again, anecdotal evidence of getting tickets on 4th day itself does not consititute clinching evidence. Moreover, if the discussion is going to spill out about Kamal, can you take it to the Tamil Film section. I can assure you there will be more than enough people there willing to engage with you. Let us keep this thread for Raja.

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Point taken. I will just listen.

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Originally Posted by Bala (Karthik)

prasad_subbu
I don't give a damn about whose fan you are. Your statements on Kamal are factually a steaming pile of bull crap (it has nothing to do with what you or I like or dislike). Maybe when you visit earth next time, you will know better.

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As suresh suggested, no point in discussing kamal here.

prasad,

Thanks

Balance portion of the 1976 pEsum padam interview (transcript of the picture posted by pammalar sir in the Memories thread) :

"தங்களுடைய இசையமைப்பிற்கு இருக்கும் வரவேற்பைப் பற்றி என்ன நினைக்கிறீர்கள்?"

"நான் இசையமைத்த முதல் படத்தில் எனக்குக் கிடைத்த நற்பெயரைத் தொடர்ந்து காப்பற்றிக்கொள்ள வேண்டுமென்ற பயம் இருக்கிறது. ரசிகர்களின் மத்தியில் நிலவிவரும் ஓர் இனிய சூழ்நிலையை இனிவரும் படங்களின் மூலம் தக்கவைத்துக் கொள்வேன் என்ற நம்பிக்கை எனக்கிருக்கிறது. எனவே ஒவ்வொரு பாடலுக்கும் மிகுந்த கவனத்தோடு இசையமைத்து வருகிறேன்" இளையராஜாவின் பயங்கலந்த கவனம் பளிச்செனத் தெரிகிறது.

ஏற்கனவே புழக்கத்தில் இருந்த பழைய இசைக்கருவிகளை முடிந்த மட்டும் பயன்படுத்த வேண்டும் என்ற ஆர்வம் இளையராஜாவிற்கு நிறைய இருக்கிறது. மேலும், தயாரிப்பாளர்கள் ஆதரவு தருவார்களானால் திறமை மிக்க புதிய பின்னணிப் பாடகர்களையும், பாடகிகளையும் திரையுலகுக்கு கொண்டு வர முடியும் என்ற நல்லெண்ணத்தை இளையராஜாவிடம் பார்க்க முடிந்தது.

"எவ்வளவோ எதிர்ப்புகளுக்கு மத்தியில் என்னை பஞ்சு அண்ணன் 'அன்னக்கிளி' படத்துக்கு இசையமைப்பாளராக அறிமுகப்படுத்தினார். என் நெஞ்சில் நிறைந்திருக்கும் ஒரு அன்பு உருவம் பஞ்சு அண்ணன். அவரும் ரசிகர்களும் என் மீது வைத்திருக்கும் நம்பிக்கையை என்றென்றும் நிலைநிறுத்திக் கொள்வேன்" - நன்றியால் இளையராஜாவின் கண்கள் நனைகின்றன. உறுதியில் நெஞ்சு நிமிர்கிறது.

'அன்னக்கிளி' தந்த இளையராஜா எண்ணற்ற படங்களில் வரும் பாடல்களை இனிமை பயக்கச்செய்ய வாழ்த்துக்கூறி அவரிடமிருந்து விடை பெறுகிறேன்.

Ilayaraja THE GREATEST! thanks, app_eng!

namba chinna vayasuley correct aa vandha, namba indha life ottiduvom with his soulful music's support!:ty:

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Great! Kamal all getting ready to treat international audiences is it?

Good luck!
that's why, he is hitting the gym regularly, looking fresh!:swinghead: NICE!

ராஜா ராஜாதி ராஜன் இந்த ராஜா.....உண்டா கமல்'s team லே?
what a drumming in 1 st interlude!:smokesmirk: rhythmic delight!
vinatha.

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Originally Posted by baroque

Ilayaraja THE GREATEST! thanks, app_eng!

namba chinna vayasuley correct aa vandha, namba indha life ottiduvom with his soulful music's support!:ty:

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Great! Kamal all getting ready to treat international audiences is it?

Good luck!
that's why, he is hitting the gym regularly, looking fresh!:swinghead: NICE!

ராஜா ராஜாதி ராஜன் இந்த ராஜா.....உண்டா கமல்'s team லே?
what a drumming in 1 st interlude!:smokesmirk: rhythmic delight!
vinatha.

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idhu ennaathukku?
if he is there - it is nice - but would rather be happy to have kamal collaborate with zimmer, thomas newman and
veruppethify them with how one man with no technology can precisely do what they are doing with studios, music editors
and supparasandis.

sadharanama dhan ketten!

you don't need to bring your world music composer's knowledge and question me!:)

edho konjam konjam, Dirty Harry's bgm has jazz flavor, Catch me if you can movie track is very catchy Jazz etc... all these I get to hear when my hubby watches on & on Netflix:)

Zimmer is Lion king's composer,inception etc..that I know.

seri.. unga punniyathuley.. THOMAS NEWMAN is Finding Nemo's composer appadinnu my hubby just enriched my knowledge!:-D

world music forum pageley, you and others are rocking some rock songs...

please introduce us some of these composers best works.

we listen whenever we can visit the thread.:musicsmile:

Jai,

:lol: That will actually be great. When for everything they produce, Kamal show a small clip with some BGM and says, 'avar appave pannittaaru. konjam pudhusa try pannungo'. And Hans Zimmer turning around and saying, "aaprasantigala. namba pudungina aani yellam vendaadha aaniyaam"

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/hqlqjc
#ilayaraja #Kumudam

வாரந்தோறும் ராகதேவன் !

விழாவில் குமுதம் வாசகர்களுக்கு ஓர் இனிய அதிர்ச்சி! விரைவில் குமுதம் இதழில் ஒரு தொடர் எழுதப்போவதாகத் தனது பேச்சின் இடையே இளையராஜா அறிவிப்பார் என்று யாரும் எதிர்பார்க்கவில்லை. அதற்கு முன்னதாக வாரந்தோறும் ஒரு வாசகரின் கேள்விக்குப் பதிலும் சொல்லப் போகிறார்.

கேள்விகளை அனுப்பும் வாசகர்கள் இளையராஜாவை நேரில் சந்திக்கும் அறிய வாய்ப்பும் இருக்கிறது. ராகதேவனிடம் கேட்க வேண்டிய கேள்விகளை இப்போதே குறித்து வைத்துக்கொண்டு, தயாராக இருங்கள் வாசகர்களே !

நன்றி : குமுதம், 20,06,2012

அந்த கேள்வி கேக்கறவன நினைச்ச பரிதாபமாக இருக்கு. பதில் வந்த பிறகு எந்த ஆஸ்பத்திரியில் அவனை சந்திக்க வேண்டுமோ :lol:

மிஞ்சிப்போனா திட்டுவாரு! வாங்கிக்கவேண்டியதுதான்! இதுக்கு எதுக்குங்க ஆஸ்பத்திரி வரைக்கும் போறீங்க!

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Originally Posted by Sureshs65

அந்த கேள்வி கேக்கறவன நினைச்ச பரிதாபமாக இருக்கு. பதில் வந்த பிறகு எந்த ஆஸ்பத்திரியில் அவனை சந்திக்க வேண்டுமோ :lol:

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:lol: we can expect questions from all kind of persons and variety of response from IR

Sakala,

அவர் அடிக்க மாட்டாரு ஆனா அவர் கொடுத்த பதில புரிஞ்சிக்க முடியாம அவன் எதாவது ஆஸ்பத்திரியில சேருவான்!!!

One more News, Just read it from kumudam that the book release function is going to be telecast on 16th @ 3pm (IST) by Vijay TV. Enjoy to whoever in India.

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Originally Posted by Sureshs65

அந்த கேள்வி கேக்கறவன நினைச்ச பரிதாபமாக இருக்கு. பதில் வந்த பிறகு எந்த ஆஸ்பத்திரியில் அவனை சந்திக்க வேண்டுமோ :lol:

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imagine some1 asking, ungalukku yaen innum bascar virudhu kedaikkalai?
Raajavoda badhil: enna avinga innum enakku adhai kudukkalai...

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Originally Posted by jaiganes

imagine some1 asking, ungalukku yaen innum bascar virudhu kedaikkalai?
Raajavoda badhil: enna avinga innum enakku adhai kudukkalai...

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Jaiganes: the answer wud be like which he was telling during facilitation of AR Rehman. without artist what oscar can do. there no oscar when there is no artists.

I feel, lets stops all our imagination and wait for the actual answer.

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Originally Posted by baroque

Zimmer is Lion king's composer,inception etc..that I know.

seri.. unga punniyathuley.. THOMAS NEWMAN is Finding Nemo's composer appadinnu my hubby just enriched my knowledge!:-D

world music forum pageley, you and others are rocking some rock songs...

please introduce us some of these composers best works.

we listen whenever we can visit the thread.:musicsmile:

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enna ippadi sollipputtenga ? zimmer a vudunga - intha thomas newman laam relatively underrated - listen to his scores for 'road to perdition' etc - they are gorgeously newage, almost mystic! adhey madhiri alan sylvestri and the more recent alexandre displat (youtube la displat + ghost writer pottu paarunga - amazing soundtrack!) - idhu madhiri innum ethannayo per - of course Williams and Goldsmith are right there at the top!

there is one lady composer who is currently making waves and is touted to be the next big thing in Hollywood! trying to get her name

:)

yeah.. thanks.

naan romba sadharanamana ponnu... :-D

I know JOHN WILLIAMS- Harry potter, Jurassic park, home alone etc..

JAMES HORNER - Avatar composer.

whenever my husband watches Clint Eastwood's movies, I really enjoy the sound tracks, jazz seems to be predominant, I love it.

one composer at a time, their best soundtracks , post them when you find time for us!

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adhey madhiri alan sylvestri.....

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Thanks.
Often I see the name in movies played in TV aachennu.. thinking,:)
Stuart little, Father of the bride, What women want- Mel Gibson, Helen Hunt - romantic flick, one of my favorite movie.
( I play some movie & do my chores like ironing, folding, doing bills etc..):-D
Frank Sinatra's 'I've got you under my skin..',
THANKS IRIR123,
noted the composers You and Jai mentioning,
alexandre displat, thomas newman & alan sylvestri.
I listen to their original works like Back to the future, curious case of benjamin button, king's speech etc.. ( not the earlier american classics songs used in their movies.) with careful listen!
Vinatha

'bappilahari interview - from anatha vikatan"

''இளையராஜா, ரஹ்மான் மியூஸிக் எல்லாம் கேட்பீங்களா?''

''நிறைய! இளையராஜா அப்பவும் இப்பவும் எப்பவும் 'கிங் ஆஃப் மெலடி’தான். என்னால் சவுத்ல பெரிய இடம் பிடிக்க முடியாமப்போனதுக்கு இளையராஜாவின் இசை ஆளுமையும் ஒரு காரணம். தமிழ்நாட்டில் அவரைக் கடவுளா கொண்டாடுறாங்க. ஒரு தடவை சென்னையில் அவர்கிட்ட பேசினப்போ மியூஸிக்பத்திப் பேசாம ஆன்மிகம்பத்தி ரொம்ப ஆழமாப் பேசினார். ரஹ்மான், 'திலீப்’பா இருந்தப்பவே எனக்குத் தெரியும். 'ஹிம்மத்வாலா’னு நான் மியூஸிக் பண்ண படத்துக்கு கீ-போர்டு வாசிக்க ரஹ்மான் மும்பை வந்திருந்தார். அப்பவே அவர் சம்திங் ஸ்பெஷல்னு எனக்குத் தெரிஞ்சது. இப்போ ரெண்டு ஆஸ்கரோட அதை நிரூபிச்சுட்டார். 'குரு’ படத்தில் டைட்டில் பாட்டுப் பாட என்னைக் கூப்பிட்டு இருந்தார். சந்தோஷமாகப் போய் பாடினேன். அப்பவும் அதே பணிவான திலீப்பைத்தான் பார்த்தேன்!''

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conti..

''இப்போ மியூஸிக் டிரெண்டே மாறிருச்சே... இப்போ டிரெண்டுக்கு உங்களால இசையமைக்க முடியுமா?''

''19 வயதில் இண்டஸ்ட்ரிக்கு வந்த எனக்கு இப்போ வயசு 59. இன்னும் 20 வருஷம்கூட மியூஸிக் பண்ணுவேன். உடம்புதான் வெயிட் போட்டுருச்சே தவிர, இன்னும் நான் இளைஞன்தான். எஸ்.டி.பர்மன், ஆர்.டி.பர்மன், லக்ஷ்மிகாந்த்-பியாரிலால், இளையராஜா, ஏ.ஆர்.ரஹ்மான் தவிர, வேற யார்கிட்ட ஒரிஜினாலிட்டி இருக்கு சொல்லுங்க. '

Guys,,,lets just discusss the great man's music...

I was and still hoping for some innovative vibrant tunes,,,,,but the pallavi of 'saindhu saindhu' looks so stale,,just like IR's recent tunes. I am praying there are indeed some hit material stuff in all the other tracks,,,,SOny couldn't have paid 2 Crores for some boring tunes,,,!!! :)

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Originally Posted by baroque

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yeah.. thanks.

naan romba sadharanamana ponnu... :-D

I know JOHN WILLIAMS- Harry potter, Jurassic park, home alone etc..

JAMES HORNER - Avatar composer.

whenever my husband watches Clint Eastwood's movies, I really enjoy the sound tracks, jazz seems to be predominant, I love it.

one composer at a time, their best soundtracks , post them when you find time for us!

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These links may give you more insight......

http://www.empireonline.com/features/john-williams/p1 80 Reasons Why John Williams Is The Man

http://composerfocus.com/5-orchestra...-to-neverland/ 5 Orchestration Lessons from John Williams’ Flight to Neverland

http://www.jerrygoldsmithonline.com/

http://www.jwfan.com/

http://www.filmtracks.com/composers/williams.shtml

Read on facebook that Raaja & GVM are again in London. No idea why.

Kamal,

They are doing the BGM now.