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It is not worth to compare YSR with any MD.It is just begening of his achievement.Now itself he took over ARR in TFM.Look at the current topic(where completely domonated by YSR) and ARR thread,Just old history and feature albums(that will be forever or will be dropped coz of ARR'delay).
There is only one point where you can show ARR above YSR is his achievements in the begening of his career before YSR and HJ entry.If YSR has been entered before ARR he could not have been entered in to TFM.The current situation proves that.
They never accept YSR success and ARR's downfall and trying to prove with his past achievements.If not ARR definitely YSR could have been done that.His present success and ARR's failure proves that.If he is really talented than YSR let him prove with his albums in TFM with YSR.
Next comment will come can YSR prove in Hindi and international.Well.He already won award for RAM just for tamil film.Since he rules TFM and Tollywood with continous success with more no of movies it doesn't make sense ask him to leave TFM and perform in HFM.If he shift to HFM definitely will send off ARR from HFM.It is upto him where he want to make his projects.But it very clear ARR can not win YSR in TFM any more.YSR should be compared with the Leading MD in the world not the retired MD's.
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in kannada we have a saying "entu vaiyasili nanna maga dhanta agidha" - which means my son has started doing things at the age of 8 that he shuld have done at age of 2.......this is used by moms who feel elated for their sons who do things late....
ur msg reminds me of that :lol: .....ur YSR is here for 8 years and now he is getting his first award.... :lol: :lol: ........also he is tasting success after 7 years of failures and that too after being Ilayaraja's son.......i wonder wat wud have happened if he was born as a normal guy......probably he wud have gone to ground with flops like aravindhan and punnagai poove........
some ppl. (ARR & IR) are born great, some ppl. (YSR) are forced into greatness.......
btw, can u tell me which album of YSR has sold more than Boys,which was released in the supposedly ARR-dull period.....
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Maddy ,
When did I ever say that ARR and Yuvan are equal?
I am not being prejudiced or Biased .... If you remain to hold that ARR is the secret of success for RDB ..please do so. In the recent times in Hindi , Himesh is the only guy who made a movie run based on his strength of music. But he is a la Yuvan, He refuses to work with the kinds of Yash or Karan.
"moreover ARR became a household name in 1 year, YSR has been here for 8 years, still trying to be one"
Please allow me to use the concept of inflation to answer this. One ruppee in 1990 is no longer equal to the one ruppee in 2005. For most of us the salary we earn right now was what our dads got when they retired.
ARR pioneered the art of sound engineering in TN. In the late 80 and early 90's even the hindi belt was still being hammered by the tunes of Nadeem Shravan and Jatin Lajit.
As with any new concept, it easily took to public's imagination. The MTV generation which was held subdued for a long time in TN, was slowly inching it way to freedom. The timing was perfect, globalisation and ARR's entry achieved a remarkable success. So did the tastes of people who no longer look for who's the hero and the heroine, but now more interested in the MD, Director, Technicians.
When the other MD's dismissed him as 'computer kid'. He stood his own proving that technology is here to stay. If you look into any history of revolutions, you can easily find a patch of Rahmanic History there.
But today things have changed, the recording techniques of Yuvan, HJ, VS are second to one. That is why ARR is finding a tough footing here. For Yuvan to become a household name in the matter of a year that you were talking would have been a monumental feat.
As you could see, currently in TN, the popularity of Yuvan has increased with all the success of his movies and so does his stock of becoming a household name. Previously in the early 90's ARR was the one person who the people eagerly waited for the audio cassette release. I am afraid now it isnt so with most of the people. This generation has a fleeting quality. They need instant results . Period.
Now if you compare the recent outputs in tamil, tell me who do you think the public will want to hear more. Now being in a neutral position , do you think albums like New, Ah Ah, Godfather will be heard more against Pattiyal, KNM, 7G,AA ??
Success of the movies played a big part agreed, but other than 'Mayil erage' and 'theeyil vizhuntha' nuthing has catupred the public's imagination. Being an ARR fan you might agrue against the popularity of other songs. But that entirely your opinion.
You just cant discredit Yuvan for achieving less. The periods are different. ARR is always remain a legend of Indian Cinema. As you said earlier, in order to have another legend you really have to break free from the influence of Rahman or IR. Composing a song with Soul is the key. I dont know if I will ever see another one , but hey there is nuthing worng in wishing
Laterz
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What nonsense is this..
ARR koda HJ and YSR comparison ah?
:banghead:
They should be proud their name actually was slotted along with the legend in this thread...
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sloshed:
I remember asking a similar question to our beloved machchan MADDY in some other thread. Not only he , his camp always brings a decade old movie to compare YSR's success today. I know he cannot answer my question, he simply disappeared from that discussion. Well, you are hitting your head against the wall, best of luck ;)
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OK wat went wrong here, for the first time it seemed there is some kinda consensus, but xml spoiled it all, the topic will be boiling hot once again, but i doubt wether i will check it again. I wish, ARR fans ignore this and do something useful :)
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sloshed, u call my claim of ARR's contri to RDB's success as a naive arguement and at the same time u r attributing ARR's success to inflation, globalisation, MTV generation's freedom.......mannn, globalisation means more competitiveness, y do u think only ARRahman of the 1 billion indian population cud make it big in Indian music???? u talk as if globalisation benefitted only ARR and not others......ARR is no.1 purely bcos of his talents/innovation....
u say 90's and 2000's is totally different......but how come Federer of this gen is playing better than sampras of 90's?? how come Dhoni of today is creating waves similar to Sachin in 90's, adhellam edhukkupa, come to music only, how come Himesh is able to create craze @ that ARR created in 90's, then y YSR is not able to create atleast 70% of wat ARR did in 90's......summa nondi saaku solli YSRa support pannadhinga......he is not in the league......
YSR is not that great as u ppl. are claiming........otherwise he shuld have put a slumping ARRahman out of business.......we still see ARRahman garnering all big projects in tamil, still selling the highest.....man he shuld throw ARR out, then i will accept he is gud....he doesent have that kinda force......
also , let him create something new.....
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first let YSR create something original before creating some new style
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Innovation.
Listern to Dheena `oru nenjamilla nalil' and ARR'S smiya from kandukondein.
`kunnoru poochatti' from velai and `dolna' from parasuram.
you will understand ysr is ahead of arr.
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Innovation.
Listern to Dheena `oru nenjamilla nalil' and ARR'S smiya from kandukondein.
`kunnoru poochatti' from velai and `dolna' from parasuram.
you will understand ysr is ahead of arr.