Ramayana - Another Great Epic

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Originally Posted by Shakthiprabha

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Originally Posted by Raghu

Devotee of Lord Shiva
Ravana was a great scholar


Ravan had many GOOD qualities, wghich were over shadowed by evil, lets pls discuss such qualities...

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One quality which IS I ADMIRE, rather, praise ...

is he abstaining from touching any woman, WITHOUT HER WISH!

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The Ramayana says that is because he was afraid of a curse and not out of any respect for womanhood or control over his lust.

He kidnapped a woman, imprisoned her forcibly and caused her endless sorrow and torture through his words. And you admire and praise him because he didnt touch her out of fear? Do you think he who perpretated so much atrocity against a woman would have not touched her if the curse hadnt been active?

What a thing to admire in a man when his very downfall was because of that!!

SP I am really surprised! :roll:

Sorry! I did not know it was out of fear badri :oops:

sheesh, I am not really qualified to talk on epics :D

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Originally Posted by Badri

The Ramayana says that is because he was afraid of a curse and not out of any respect for womanhood or control over his lust.

He kidnapped a woman, imprisoned her forcibly and caused her endless sorrow and torture through his words. And you admire and praise him because he didnt touch her out of fear? Do you think he who perpretated so much atrocity against a woman would have not touched her if the curse hadnt been active?

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Badri,can you elaborate the curse please? I am hearing it for the first time and would like to know more.

Dsath,

No, badri is right, there was a curse casted upon Ravan, that if he touches any women, he would be burt or something....

Besides, In Ramayan, as far as I know, It is told that Ravan was a womaniser, but then again, if he was not he would not have kidnapped sita, he went to the forest to kill the person(Lakshaman) who cut of Soorpanahai's nose, but Ravan fell for the beauty of Sita and fell for her, hence he kidnapped her...

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Originally Posted by Raghu

Dsath,

No, badri is right, there was a curse casted upon Ravan, that if he touches any women, he would be burt or something....

Besides, In Ramayan, as far as I know, It is told that Ravan was a womaniser, but then again, if he was not he would not have kidnapped sita, he went to the forest to kill the person(Lakshaman) who cut of Soorpanahai's nose, but Ravan fell for the beauty of Sita and fell for her, hence he kidnapped her...

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Raghu, i am not disagreeing with Badri. I am just interested in knowing the story behind the curse. How and why he got the curse? :)

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Originally Posted by Badri

This has been discussed and done to death. Valmiki raises this question through Vaali's mouth itself. And Vaali who is the affected party is convinced of Rama's reply and agrees that Rama's act is indeed justified.

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Since this is a predominantly Tamil forum, why do people not look at how Kambar interprets the significance of the killing of Valin? Unlike Valmiki, who tries to address the problems arising out of Ramapiran's act in moral terms, Kambar very expressly and clearly addresses them in religious terms. :)

Kribanandha Vaariyar has an interesting take on Vaali's killing: "Can we expect the police to follow the speed limit when they are trying to catch a criminal driving above the speed limit?"

I am extremely bad with memory.

Now that I try to recollect,
if I remember right,

he had lured a woman (forgot her name) saint, in his previous birth.

He tried forcing her despite her warnings.

She burnt herself alive and cursed ravana that, if he touches any woman, without her approval, he would burn to ashes.

If I remember right, THE SAME SAINT (woman) is born as seetha .

Madam SP,

I think the saint woman which you are talking about is Vedavathi and when Ravana abducted "Sita", it is believed that it is not "Sita" who was abducted and it was Vedavathi.

Can somebody clarify if I am correct and elaborate it?

In one telugu movie, they show Ravana also participating in that test of lifting the bow and commissioning it ( I mean , the event when Ram enters Mithila and breaks the bow and also marries Sita ).
ofcouse, Ravana fails to put the naan into the bow and loses the challenge .
How far is it true ? Did Ravana see Sita earlier in that case ?

Unfortunately, we see too many such things in movies and very difficult to conclude which version is authenticated.