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we have to continually remind ourselves abt it?
In that case Dsath, would it be right to try to avoid discussions about Brahmin Hegemony, and Untouchability since it reminds people about it? Would it be just to avoid and try to frown upon discussions with hopes that people won't discuss them, on the Varna System, and Castiesm?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dsath
Like I have said, there are no legal criteria whatsoever. It is up the individuals to declare who or what one is. So, there is nothing concrete laid down in the Indian legal system about Hindu, other than the Hindu Law, which applies to religiously Non-Hindus also and it talks about civil things like inheritance, marriages, caste, SC, CT, BC, OBC and such like issues, I am afraid my friend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Surya
Yet it doesn't protect or save the self-declared Hindus from the persecutions of the law of karma and reincarnation, does it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Surya
It doesn't. But we're talking about Religious Persecution. And Religious Persecution is usually commited on a person because of their religion, or what they call themselves to be. :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rohit
Which is what happened in Mogul India. :)
dsath mate,
Ok don't think about your ancestors past, concentrate you on the future ;-)
But for me , this research of our past is personal and very important at my own eyes..
Please don't believe all the rubbish i'm saying .. It is nonsense..
Oh last thing dsath, there are two types of indologists, those who don't love India and those who love and admire India.
Max Muller and co are the first type,
Danielou and co are the second type.. :roll:
Dsath is it not you who said me once that western, particulary Britishes were very benefit for Indians ?
You said that they brought education and unity in India . Do you remember ? I do not understand why you are now critising these western indologist born out of India just when it arrange you..
:roll:
Are they not scholars ? With a specific education ?
I can bet you that these men know a lot maybe even more than you and me about our culture.. :roll:
Now if i opened this thread it is NOT TO TAKE REVENGE ON MUSLIMS, but just keep this sad event in the mind of the ignorant Indian... The indian who don't know about his proper past.
I know thay ignorance is present on this forum, because this thread prove well that most of us are not agree with each ones.
And as we know there is only one reality...
So i say ignorance is present in this forum.
P.S: I DO NOT CLAIM TO POSSESS THE FULL KNOWLEDGE ! BECAUSE I'M TOO AN IGNORANT, THERE IS NOTHING BAD TO ACCEPT THIS FACT...
Beg to differ. Invasion..Itself brings destruction, demolition and every ugly thing. It is a sin to blame Islam alone for the genocide of Hindus. Just coz of the fact that a handful of Muslim kings invasion on INdia, does that mean we have to name everything as "Islamic"Quote:
Originally Posted by Eelavar
Please rename the thread as:
"FOREIGN INVASIONS AND <WHATSOEVER YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE>"
This general term is provocative as if our Indian cousins have not done anything cruel for the Islamic world.
No, the biggest genocide ever known is the Genocide Of The Dasayus by the Vedics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eelavar
I quoted a vedic hymn which describes the killing of 60,000 local hosts in one slot for practicing non-vedic religion. Such hymns are even today revered as sacred. Considering the huge volume of the white Aryan inflush and the native dasayus population spreading the entire India, I would estimate atleast 10 million slaying of the Dasayus.
If the vedics were Hindus, then Hindus were historically intolerant and so what if there was a genocide on Hindus ?
If the vedics were not Hindus, then why are we not discussing the Genocide of Dasayus first ?
Can you answer these questions Eelavar ?
Eelvar i think you have to read the complete posting before commenting. Can you quote me on that one please?Quote:
Originally Posted by Eelavar
My views are that, India was never one country before the British came. They just ruled the whole subcontinent under one umbrella because it was suitable for them and we continue the same because it suits us too.
My criticism is towards the Euro-Centric approach taken by these 'Indologists' in reading our History. Esp Gautier's work (well at least most of it) is very selective exploration of India's past and present and hence misses out the bigger picture.
Surya, this is case between moving forward Vs stuck in the present Vs going backwards. Its up to us to choose what we want to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Surya
What the saffron brigade is trying to do is to throw a carpet over our wonderful cultural diversity. What happens when all of the country is 'Hindu'? Are we all one and the same then? Then the difference based on language, ethnicity and what not will come to the front.
The USSR attempted to gloss over the vast cultural diversity in the name of communism.
The saffron brigade attempts do just that under different pretext, in the name of religion.
Should we not learn from the Soviet experience, that this is not going to last.
The present India at least recognizes the cultural diversity we have and that’s the reason why despite corrupt politicians and hopeless bureaucracy we are still standing as one country.
Whatever happened to unity in diversity?
If all you wanted was academic research or philanthropic motives and not political, then you will have to rename this thread as "Genocides in India", where-in we can discuss all genocides that have taken place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eelavar
The original thread was Genocide Of Hindus which itself shows your political motives. Now the new name is even more fanatic and political.