appadeengaLA? That is a 1979 movie (vAda vAttudhu, enna pAttuppAda enna thALam pOda). I know the hero was Sudhakar, no idea about the heroini...If Ambi chEchi, that is prior to kadal meenkaL...Quote:
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appadeengaLA? That is a 1979 movie (vAda vAttudhu, enna pAttuppAda enna thALam pOda). I know the hero was Sudhakar, no idea about the heroini...If Ambi chEchi, that is prior to kadal meenkaL...Quote:
Originally Posted by mgb
#145 கல்யாணச் சேலை உனதாகும் நாளை
(அம்பிகை நேரில் வந்தாள், 1984 , ஷோபா as claimed in thiraippAdal, sounds like SJ to me)
Quite a 'mangaLakaramAna' song, even though there's a mild tinge of sadness (possibly invoked by the parithAba chorus voices and the shenoy in second interlude). There's also some amount of northie-ism / SAR-ishness etc...
I remember listening to this song often on buses / radio but never cared to check the movie name. Also, I remember seeing the Mohan / Radha posters of this movie but never cared to find out what songs existed in it. Such was the prolificity of rAsA during this time, after thoroughly routing all the competition away. Sometime during this year, TR , who used to come up with hit songs every now and then since OTR, had his (possibly) biggest career hit - uyiruLLa varai ushA. His UU and subsequent albums got played around TN in a big way and was perhaps the only alternative to the flood of IR numbers.
I've seen some strong remarks back & forth in IR's new albums thread about people commenting on whether IR has lost his touch / lost "it" / out of form / coming back to form etc.
While it's true that IR comes up with some winners even in the year 2011 (SRR in Telungu is a sure biggie, for e.g.), it's no longer a winner each week :wink: That may be the difference which drives some old timers into desperation :-)
Is it same Shoba - Vijay's mom?
Yes, the lyrics are : Kalyana selai unathaagum naalai,,,
And the female singer , some website says her name is Shobana, Shoba...
This TFM page says her name is Devi.
http://www.tfmpage.com/forum/5284.06:11:54.html
Thanks.
nanRi, genesis & Divine22.
Corrected the errors :oops:
#146 அலை மீது தடுமாறுதே சிறு ஓடம்
(அன்புள்ள மலரே, 1984 , வாணி ஜெயராமுடன்)
Another song which I've heard frequently on radio and knew not much about its background. In some ways (orchestration, feel) sounds like 'veLLaippuRa onRu Enguthu kaiyil varAmalE', even making one feel that the director possibly pointed out that number to rAsA and asked something similar.
I've just noticed that thiraippAdal says the director is B R Ravishankar. I was wondering for a minute 'where did I hear this name before'. Then it dawned upon me that eera vizhikkAviyangaL too has his name as the director :shock:
While EVK is today hailed as one of the best works of IR ever, it was not that big a hit those days and the popularity was pretty much limited to radio and IR-fanatics. That the EVK movie managed to get released was a chamathkAr in itself but the same director getting another chance is a bigger chamathkAr :-)
(dig - I'm curious to see naNban by Shankar whether the chamathkAr thingy is retained and what is the word in Thamizh. Also, I'm curious to see the climax of naNban - whether the same "delivery" scene will be retained...if so, won't it look like a repeattu from enthiran and thus less shiny?)
Interesting to hear VJ here with SPB. Though she wasn't singing that many numbers for IR, she did get some good ones. In the same year, she got that fantastic 'inRaikku Enindha AnandhamE' in Vaidheki kAthirundhAL, a movie with no SPB song.
No worries ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
App,
Came to know of the 'alai meedhu' song only a couple of years back. Raja either made it first in Telugu or remade it (my guess is he made it there.)
It is a very happy song in Telugu and also it has a curious mix of Telugu and Hindi. Janaki giving company to SPB. I like this version very much.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ6n_eIB2vQ
That's quite interesting info, Sureshji!
(Going by Plum's theory, it could also explain the VJ presence in this song - i.e. " borrow the other-lang's track, translate the lyric, record with available singer, don't even bother the busy IR " :wink:)
My feeling is that Plum may be right :)
#147 வாலிபம் வாழ்க, வையகம் வாழ்க
(தேவி ஸ்ரீதேவி , 1984 , ஜானகியுடன்)
IR had typically provided something special to GA directed movies. GA being a musician / poet had great ears possibly. Or, he had more liberty than others in demanding from IR. And it's possible that IR too wanted to do something special to his thambi.
I would rate kOzhi koovuthu as one of the all-time-great-albums-ever-in-IFM. (May be I'm telling this repeatedly but can't help it). The other noteworthy ones being grAmarAjanned enga oo p & karagam.
In any case, DSD is not one of those specials. However, it had two nice numbers. This sweet SPB-SJ number and the 'dasarathanin' sweetie. Our thanjai sponsored TDK had these numbers which were frequently getting played in the hostel. These songs also had a decent amount of radio time even though can't be called phenomenal hits (as in teakkadai, bus, thiruvizha, functions).
As mentioned before in another thread, the same friend tortured us by dragging to Trichy Maris Rock theater to watch this movie where possibly we were the only audience :lol2: (It was an AVM Rajan + his daughter show which failed to evoke any public response).
I love the rhythm arrangement for the pallavi - IR special there and also the switch to tabla in saraNam - another IR signature!
Finally, after quite sometime, I'll have a 'maRRa' song for Friday tomorrow.
That too for a biggie. Which is quite appropriate after these three smallies this week :-)
Let's welcome the girl of "April 18" who was only 18 then :wink:
Interestingly, it looks to me like 1984 will have a smaller # of SPB-IR hits than 1983 :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
Possibly SPB started getting extremely busy outside the IR-TFM-domain by this time.
In any case, let's visit the count of 1984 at the "year end".
From rAsA's debut year 1976 to 1983, that we've covered so far, 1983 tops with 38 agmark hits :-)
Ofcourse, Plum, we're only dealing with Thamizh numbers in this thread. It's very much possible that IR had similar number (or bigger number) with SPB in other languages, especially Telungu. In TFM, he seems to have diversified quite a bit with a variety of male singers (KJY / PJ / MV / IR himself & some odd ones) but it wouldn't have been the case in TeFM.
After couple of visits to google, I figured who you are talking about. But there is no "Friday" song from EO? Megam Kottatum is the special song from this movie, but that does not fall in Friday category.Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
And you seem to have unfair bias for கேரள நாட்டிளம் பெண்கள். IIRC, my mom or dad said this girl from Padmini's family looked like "முருங்கைக்காய்க்கு கையும் காலும் முளைச்ச மாதிரி இருக்கு".
#148 முத்தம் போதாதே சத்தம் போடதே
(எனக்குள் ஒருவன், 1984 , ஜானகியுடன்)
Though this maRupiRavikkadhai with two Kamals flopped and got forgotten in the streams of time - despite Kamal taking the pain of changing his face to look like "asian" for one of the roles - the music continues to mesmerize. We have two SPB solos coming up in the next two days (and one of them is phenomenal, evergreen). This "kiss" song got chosen to be hosted first because of the friday connection :wink: Actually there is not much of "maRRa" stuff (i.e. on the surface, there could be slEdai biz) except the first word, which had been associated with Kamal in the TF more than any other artist, thanks to the media.
Way back at the time of 'sattam en kaiyil', there was huge hype in newspapers like dhinathanthi and weeklies like kumudam about a foreign actress and Kamal's idhazh to idhazh with her. I think from that point, there is always some news or other about KH & his ummA to some latest arrival. (It continues to this day, if one goes by a recent charchchai in the TF section in one of the KH threads, with a few HCKHFs chasing NOV :lol:)
So are the references to muththam in KH songs ("kannaththil muththaththin eeram adhu kAyavillaiyE" has the word, 'ponmEni uruguthE / nilA kAyudhE' kind of songs have the saththams related to muththams etc). With that background and boys still not out of the SKV effect even after many months, one can guess what was the reaction to this song in the hostel.
The panasonic stereo was playing this often in the hostel and I had additional headphone sessions as well. What a sweetie! A fantastic tabla delight with great recording, nice string sections, iLamaiththuLLal singing by SPB and konjal singing by SJ!
I think this one is Vairamuthu - 'pudavai-puthaiyal-unakkE-padaiyal' - how words play around in this man's pen! He also does some mild politics stuff by recalling 'thamizh nAttil eppOdhO madhu vilakku'. Did I say limited "maRRa" stuff? Well, upon seeing the whole lyric, I take it back. The first line of second saraNam is :shock: material in a film song.
It was interesting those days to see the big eyed niece of Padmini in the ads. I didn't know during student days that her aunty was from Kerala but years later I could recognize her face to be a typical south Kerala one. There was a very similar looking next-door neighbor in Palakkad who was in love with the boy at the opposite house for decades (i.e. since childhood) and finally married him against the wishes of her dad. Me & wife used to pity seeing her for a couple of years (trying to get ok from the stubborn dad) - before happily attending their reception where her dad was absent.
Shobhana, with her nice dancing skills, could portray a variety of expressions with ease (check out veLLanakaLude nAdu or thEnmAvin kombaththu or maNichitraththAzh or dhaLapathi), started in both Malayalam & Thamizh in the same 1984 when she was 18, per wiki. April 18 was the Malayalam film and EO the Thamizh one. Though EO didn't give her the required strong start, she had a hit with KBR in idhu namma ALu and survived...
Too much feeding of "subbaNNA" material during school days, perhaps :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by genesis
April 18 has another smallie(in app's words) connection to TF.
Unishe April in Bengali and Debashree Roy in that - brought to Tamil as Chintamani by pandiarajan. Manaivi Ready was it?
Enakkul Oruvan - from the YGM as lead comedian phase of Kamal. Enough said. Forgive. Forget. Flush from Memory. But then indha rasiayan engE maRakka vudaRAn. Indha padathai ellAm memory-la firmA implant paNNidaRAn :evil:
After all these years, there came a movie in new millennium with the title 'saththam pOdAthE' :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
app_engine
Just a thought: When you and your friends are enjoying the Illayaraja's hits, was there in any specific song in that time period 81/84, that stuck a chord with your out-of-state friends(above the Vindhiysas)?
Just curious? Can't imagine, unless one is stone deaf, you are not getting swayed by at least some of his songs
Bala
Good question :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by balaji
During the Agate time period (1st sem), the whole year was in one hostel with wingmates from around the country. There was significant cross-cultural interchange.
'kaNNE kalaimAnE' was a huge fav and NI students sang / played on guitar etc.
However, from the next sem, there was choice of hostels (one of the two) and also choice of wingmates. From 4th sem, in the single room stuff, each wing had 21 rooms (6 wings per hostel) and the closer friendships were mostly limited to your wing / floor mates and people tend to flock based on their background / identities etc.
That limited the cross-cultural connection to a great extent and I had limited opportunities to strike lasting friendships with Hindi-speaking boys :-( Except some "common-room-carrom-cricket" connections. So, didn't have much interactions with them.
Generally speaking, however, during music / entertainment programs, festember etc, all the popular hits of rAsA were enjoyed by students from all states :-)
youtube of insufficient kisses :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vD8ho_yowI
Thanks app-engine
Nice to note IR's music did move others as well.. Never was lucky to be in an environment where IR's music ruled and we had people who are say RDB's fans and others trying to "at least" accept his great music. (Even though in IMHO SDB/RDB rank second to IR, that is a far second., way behind....)
Thanks for sharing your personal experience.
Bala
Raja was always well diversified with his male singers. TFM was that way lucky.... KJY was for soft melodious songs, SPB for lively entertaining songs, MV for folkish fast songs, IR for soulful sad songs and PJ somewhere in between KJY and SPB . Because of the dominance of KJY/SPB in Kerala/AP, I **think** there was not that much diversity in MFM and TeFM. That being said both KJY/SPB are well capable of rendering any type of song... just there was no variety.Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
But in female singers after the exit of Jensi, Raja mostly used Janaki for more than 80% of his songs, rest 20% was shared between PS, VJ and SPS; until 1985 when he found Chitra.
:lol: Good good. Big hit at home, video cassette remba nAlA odinuchu.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
App, great job as usual. Also, hope you can give comparison with Kamal's version of Megam Kottattum next.
Waitees! Kamal's version of Megam Kottatum aa? Ippidi oru version iruka enna? :-? :oops:
Ofcourse, yes, KV. Infact, when I try to recollect the song, I am only getting Kamal's version in the head.
kEttAchu! Koot, but (thalaivarE manchikOnga) SPB gambheeramE thani ya.
(that drums+mrudangam postlude.. arAjamgam, akkramam, asuraththanam)
Not disputing any of that. But printla megam kottattumnu parthavune mind-la kamal voice dhaan odichu. Maybe last time I heard it, which must be a good decade back, I heard the
Kamal version perhaps
Strange enough, I’ve had a contrasting opinion on some other songs that has versions by these two.
Kanmani anbOdu kAdhalan and NinaivO oru paravai… SPB’s gult versions come nowhere close to Kamal’s Thamizh rendition, to me.
Related digression:
Thanni karuthurichu - MV v/s SPB - MV wins hands down.
kOdai kAla kAtre - MV v/s SPB - SPB, big time.
kAdhal Oviyam pAdum kAviyam - IR v/s SPB - IR, without an iota of doubt.
EnnayA pattern idhu!
Depends on the emotion I guess. Keep in mind that dubbing songs are always difficult as we agreed during our recent discussion on salangai oli, in this very thread.
Saying that, it is very difficult to choose on kodai kaala kaatre. MV has a coarse texture which adds its own flavour while Lover Boy Bala makes it dripping with romance. On second thoughts, MV perhaps suits better the hardened older man, the teacher played by Pothen, who, while appreciative of the romance and beauty, is also suitably tempered by Life and its vicisittudes to not get too mushy about it.
Does the song have a KJY version, too? There is a Pani neer Pookkal in Malayalam, which is, I think, the malayalam dubbing of this movie
MV’s voice has a certain soap-on-wet-floor quality, which to me, doesn’t quite work for many of his songs. Personally, I find him best suited for folkish songs (with a handful exceptions like Aasai nooru vagai) while SPB, KJY and PJ seem to fit the polished types better.
And my order of preference of the versions of Kodai kAla kAtre is gult, mall, tam.
3 songs due today...2 for weekend will be covered by EO numbers and one more from next movie...
Sorry to miss your treasure posts dearly App. Slowly catching up. Some great and rare songs shared, need some more time to catch up.
While I know about Kamal version of Megam Kottatum, never heard these SPB versions:Quote:
Originally Posted by KV
Thanni karuthurichu
kOdai kAla kAtre
kAdhal Oviyam pAdum kAviyam
Are these parts of some "un-sung" album by SPB?
Think KJY in kAdhal Oviyam pAdum kAviyam... way better than IR.
Those are in other languages, not in TFM :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by genesis
Take your time :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by V_S
(Like MMKR joke of wait a minit for 5 minits, there was this kadi joke at Palakkad workplace - take your time but finish it today)
You're welcome balaji...actually I must thank you for giving kooli to eat karumbu :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by balaji
nanRi groucho!
As you've probably understood already (from my hub history), I'm no way qualified to compare KH v/s SPB (singing or anything - except compare their heighttu-weighttu). At the max, can mention the versions and state my personal preference :-)
Dint IR say this on record about this song - "Indha paattu nee paadina aLavukku Baluvaala mudiyalai"Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
App, naan innum thanga magan-E mudikkalai.. Will get here soon :oops: