IR News and Other Titbits Ver.2009

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Originally Posted by baroque

Jai,
Can you point rest of us to that Westerner's review on TIS if it is available on web?

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Jai,

It is not about her.

Craig,

It is not ridiculous. :twisted:

I mentioned a incident happend in my life a decade ago. It was not preplanned though next couple of days were. There was a assorted Cd playing while we were driving... because she commented like that.. It was in my mind, I dragged her to listen to some awesome IR magics.. this time I chose the compositions with magical prelude, caressing vocals like ஒ butterfly... , ஆனந்த தாகம் ... etc. as I have mentioned in my previous post. I truly care.
point is ..
It is not about Westerner or Easterner. Indeed music has no language boundaries.
People notice imperfections in vocals. For some, it matters a lot.

ரொம்ப bore சொன்னதையே திரும்ப explain செஞ்சுண்டு ... :x

I know some of my very close friends did not like or not very fond of TIS for its vocals. They grew up with Shri.IR's music, they generously donated for the making of TIS.

any way.. bye bye..

Vinatha. :wave:

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IRIR might be able to point out that link which had a western reviewer say that the indian lead vocal (IR) was more effective than trained broadway singer Ray courthart in the album. I personally feel that Ray also has sung well - but not sung his heart out. Raja has sung his heart out - not by touching the sonic volumer barrier, but in the plaintative 'umbargatkarase' he goes close to melting point with his voice. Some times bhaava is more important in some pieces. Again suggestion is 'Nalla Vellikizhamayile' song. there are a few occassions where Raja catches some breath - but with the movie picturisation it fits to the T and I love this song very much and so does my father who cannot tolerate abaswarams and sruthi mistakes. Coz the point is not just about sonic clarity or a music competition judge mindset. It is more about the context. I still believe that there is simply plainly no one who understands the 'bhava' of a thiruvasagam well enough to emote it while singing. SPB would have to be desankritized, unnikrishnan would have to be decarnaticised and KJY de malayalicised to sing that umbargatkarase. Since Raja has sung it I feel like singing it - as opposed to a KJY or SPB - Iwould not have dared to sing it - just listen to it in awe- that is a point lost as Thiruppugazhum thiruvaasagamum padap paada thaan sirappu. IF the listener is flummoxed by all the aalaps and musical detours, then pretty much like all he carnatic songs, yandhira gadhiyil, ishtam pola paadath thoanum. bhavam velippattaal dhaan, context herinju paada mudiyum.
Effect totally would be like an amul baby aravind saamy reciting 'Achamillai achamillai' in thalabathy - neat rendering, but some how disconnected.

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Originally Posted by baroque

Jai,
Can you point rest of us to that Westerner's review on TIS if it is available on web?

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அது என்ன 'ரெஸ்ட் ஆப் அஸ்' எண்னி ரென்டு பேர் தான் இருக்கீங்க இங்க! :)
எல்லாத்துக்கும் லிங்கு பாய்ன்டர்ஸ் இருந்தாதான் நம்மலால நம்ப முடியும். உஙக தோழி சொன்னது வெப்'ல இருக்கா?!! ஜோக்ஸ் அபார்ட் - நான் அப்லோட் செய்திருக்கும் யூ டியுப் விடியோக்களில் தேடி பாருங்கள். மேக்கிங் ஆப் திருவாசகம் எனும் தொடரில் புடாபெஸ்ட்டை சேர்ந்த சில இசை கலைஞர்கள் 'கிரேட் சிங்கர்' 'டிவைன் வாய்ஸ்' என சிலாகிப்பதை காணலாம்.

Did IR decide to break away from Fr.Jegath Gasper for good ?

http://www.tamilhindu.com/2009/05/ch...avidian-nexus/

S. Ramakrishnan writes on Kottu (countryside rhythms), mentioning IR's usage (Virumandi & Pudhiya Varppugal song).

http://www.sramakrishnan.com/view.asp?id=261&PS=1

"rajasaranam"

அது என்ன 'ரெஸ்ட் ஆப் அஸ்' எண்னி ரென்டு பேர் தான் இருக்கீங்க இங்க! :)
எல்லாத்துக்கும் லிங்கு பாய்ன்டர்ஸ் இருந்தாதான் நம்மலால நம்ப
I sincerely asked the review. Not to double check....
(So far I have read only one review IRIR123 posted recently. )
ராஜாசரணம் ,
In your first post, you are writing
மேட்டிமைத்தனம் , மேட்டுக்குடி , சாரு நிவேதிதா ... etc..
I don't know about them. I don't have Indian T.V channels, neither I follow the articles, interviews or opinions or blogs etc.. closely.
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Jai... enjoy good for you!
Vinatha.

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Originally Posted by raja_fan

Did IR decide to break away from Fr.Jegath Gasper for good ?

http://www.tamilhindu.com/2009/05/ch...avidian-nexus/

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to start with IR should NOT have associated himself with politically motivated crooks like Gasper, who tried to use IR's popularity and image to promote their own evangelical objectives

so many people burnt their fingers with the TiS project, and all that heartburn could have been avoided if IR had done the project through a proper label in a professional manner

if IR has not yet broken up with Gasper, its better he does it now

Jai,

Hope Vinatha doesn't feel that we are ganging up against her but I sincerely feel the same way that you have expressed regarding 'umbargatkarase'. The emotion that Raja brings is superb and as you said it would not have been possible by other trained singers. 'ingu euntharuluvadhiniye' Aah. What a composition.

Not at all, Suresh.
Enjoy the experience. vinatha.

http://chudachuda.blogspot.com/2009/...g-post_09.html

There is a series on ARR’s life in A.Vikatan and Rani magazines. In this week’s Rani, its mentioned that ARR broke away from IR’s orchestra, as IR refused to give a rise of Rs.50 in his salary. This news was shared by one of the regular lyricists of IR. He says, when ARR demanded Rs.50 extra, his ‘veettaar’ (does it mean his family members or associates?) said what he is paid is already more than enough. Hence ARR didn’t go for the next few recordings. An angry IR told him immediately not to come again. Later, when IR came to know about the reason for ARR’s attitude, he lamented that he lost a real good artiste.