nilavonRu kaNdEn youtube
Shot in the snow-clad hills, this one is quite nice :-)
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nilavonRu kaNdEn youtube
Shot in the snow-clad hills, this one is quite nice :-)
nanRi, V_S!
Yes, rAsA's songs underwent significant change in the "listening experience" during the mid-80's...possibly an upgrade of recording equipment helped as well.
kai veesum thAmarai youtube
Good quality video but the title given shows the "quality" of the uploader :oops:
App anna
Thanks for uploading some songs, I have never heard before ! :ty:
You're welcome, but hey, I'm only providing the links here...never uploaded any music / video to the web :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN
minjippOnA one or two pics to facebook paNNi irukkEn :-)
There're two more SPB songs in kairAsikkAran - thEn sumandha mullai & sighttu adichchukkO. Both don't ring a bell in my mind when listening today. So, can't post about them. I'm surprised that there're IR-SPB songs of 1984 that didn't even leave a trace of them in my memory!
App , Unga facebook link kudunga ..
Will like to add you as a friend :)
#155 ரோஜா ஒன்று முத்தம் கேட்கும் நேரம்
(கொம்பேறி மூக்கன், 1984 , ஜானகியுடன்)
"Great melodies with SPB-SJ combo" seems to be a major feature of this year!
After listening to 'thAzhampoovE vAsam veesu' after a considerable gap (during the build of the post on that song), I can't get out of it haunting me often in the bed for a few days now! Such a powerful melody! Add 'nilavonRu kaNden', 'mutham pOthAdhO' and now this 'rOja onRu'...and there are a few more from this year waiting to be posted!
Possibly this was a major year for tablA - or "takeover by tablA" :-)
Though it was always part of IR's arsenal, with the spurt in the number of movies and a very busy schedule, rAsA had to resort to some standardization in orch I think. That is, for maximising productivity - strictly IMO. Or, he possibly found it easier to give relatively "shorter instructions" to assistants and jump on to the next work. (One imaginary conversation, IR to his rhythm section head : "Puru, antha 4/4 la namma standard tablA rhythm vachchu arrange paNNeerunga - indhappAttukku adhu sariyA irukkum / pOdhum. aduththa director 3 maNi nEramA vAsallA irukkAr - sinnappaiyyan, enna sonnAlum kEkkAma kAl kadukka ninnukkittE irukkAr - pAvamA irukku" :lol:)
And this one, what a sweetie! First time when I heard the song from our Thanjai friend's cassette, couldn't believe this was for a Thiyagarajan movie.
What? 'rOjA onRu' for a movie called 'kombEri mookkan'? :shock:
Well, complexities of nature - like a soft rOjAppoo located amidst sharp and strong thorns, 'rOja onRu' in a kombEri mookkan movie starring Mr Mambattiyan. Ofcourse, 'chinnappoNNu sEla' was a soft sweetie too for the same pair but it had a very different nAdan arrangement, rustic rAsA voice so one didn't have any uRuththal. But this one? hellO!
In any case, despite enjoying Mambattiyan in theater, I didn't care to watch Mookkan (which didn't repeat the success of the former IIRC). And it wasn't much before Mr Mambattiyan faded out, as expected.
ரோஜா ஒன்று முத்தம் கேட்கும் நேரம்!
ராஜா + பாலு + ஜானகி + சரிதா + எழில்மிகு காட்சி அமைப்புக்கள் - இப்பாடலை காலச் சக்கரத்தில் என்றைக்குமே அழிந்தொழியாத வண்ணம் நிலை நிறுத்துகிறது.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNK-pgEJfEk
( இரண்டாவது இடையிசையில் ஆரம்பிக்கும் வயலின் இசை பொட்டு வைத்த ஒரு வட்ட நிலா பாடலின் இரண்டாவது இடையிசையின் ஆரம்பத்தை ஞாபகப் படுத்தி செல்கிறது )
Well written App! If you were already haunted by one, it is difficult to come out of it, even if you want to like 'vidaadhu karuppu' :wink: We can write non-stop essay for this song.
venkkiram, that was a superb catch on the connection of second interlude with pottu vaitha interlude. Another beauty in second interlude is the bass guitar. Sounds very heavy and feels like it is not liking the accompanying instruments, so staging a 'no' every time :smile: Another interesting piece in the second interlude is you will never know when the interlude will give the lead to charanam, because when you hear the violins at the end of interlude, it continues on and on and suddenly Janaki takes over, what a beauty!
Maestro composes this tune in such a way there is ample scope for konjals and kenjals. SPB and SJ seizing every opportunity. ThEnil Ooriya Pala!
There are some films where we cannot separate the theatre we watched those films. We would not get that experience even if we watch that film in any other theatre, leave alone all the DVD crap. This is one such film, where I watched it in that mighty Devi complex (Devi theatre) in Mount Road. I remember watching this film as I didn't get ticket for another movie (which I forgot now). So we went in for Komberi Mookan with my Dad. This is the second time into Devi theatre. First time being 'Nooraavathu Naal' during summer 10th grade holidays. I was already amazed by its size and its effects during 'Nooraavathu Naal'. When I got second opportunity, I didn't want to miss it. From that time onwards many classic films we watched there, Mackenna's Gold, Guns of Navarone, Ten Commandments et al. I can never get that experience even in theaters here. That time it was way better than Satyam and all good theaters around. Even a dud film will sound good in that theatre with the sound effects and that big big screen. So, in that way Komberi mookan didn't disappoint me.
nanRi, V_S!
1984 had this Manivannan movie kuvA kuvA vAththukaL from which my mind only recalls the 'thEnil vadiththa silaiyE' song (sounds like Gangai Amaran singing, or it could be Krishnachandar).
There's a SPB duet pollAtha with VJ but never heard it before, so cannot feature in this thread...
#156 நீலக்குயிலே உன்னோடு நான் பண்பாடுவேன்
(மகுடி, 1984 , ஜானகியுடன்)
In my mind, there's some relation between this song and the PS-UR sweetie 'amuthE thamizhE azhagiya mozhiyE enadhuyirE' of kOvil puRA. (Those with rAgA knowledge please confirm if both these songs are of same rAgA or family of rAgAs). Equally sweet song in a slightly faster tempo and fantastic percussion arrangement.
This song was a radio hit and I don't think the movie made any impact at all when arrived. I heard the movie name on radio but didn't even have much knowledge about it. Googling gets the info that this was a Mohan / Nalini movie. A real rare gem of a song - possibly sERRil muLaiththa senthAmarai / kuppaiyil vairam kind, going by the un-known-ness of the movie.
The swaraprayOgams in the prelude are very much similar to the 'gama-gama-gama-gari-sari-sA' of amuthE thamizhE that triggered the connection in my mind. There are other construction similarites as well, such as "semi-classical" nature, flute / veeNA combo (difference being violin replacing nAdhaswaram sounds...nayanam was specially played by MPM Sethuraman / Ponnusamy brothers in all the kOvil puRA songs).
Both SPB & SJ relish the song, enjoying while singing as they didn't get that many opportunities to sing ICM semi-classicals in TFM together under IR's baton, though they had tons of light / WCM style songs. (My mind throws nAnoru ponnOvium instantly where these two were present but it also had PS).
A truly memorable number!
There's a SPB duet for 'manaivi sollE mandhiram' that starts as 'mAmA thaLLippadu' and it failed to make any impact with the listeners. Interestingly, two other songs from the same movie - 'mAnE mAnguyilE' featuring MV & 'AtthAdee athisayam, pArthAlE paravasam' featuring KJY have both been moderate hits having decent AIR time.
(Rama.Narayanan movie I think...which did "not-kai-kadichchufy-kind-of-biz" per reports then)
Amazing writeups App for the 1983 songs. I haven't caught up yet with 1984 as am still re-reading the 1983 songs, a lot of biggies there. Some excellent viewpoints on Salangai Oli made me revisit the movie today. A thoroughly satisfying movie in terms of emotional and musical content. Pala idangalil kan kalanga vaithathu. Kamal nadippu, IR's score for Kamal & Jayapradha scenes :notworthy:
nanRi, rajkumarc!
True, salangai oli can be revisited any number of times and never fails to impress!
Two songs are due today (one for Sunday & another for today)...both will be from a Rajini movie...
#157 கல்யாணம் வைபோகம் என்றென்றும் வாழ்க
(நான் மகான் அல்ல, 1984 , ஜானகியுடன்)
This piano beauty is a SJ solo song for the most part with SPB just singing the last repeat of pallavi towards the end, along with chorus (after the female voice breaks down crying). Still, this is another SPB hit on record. It had a lot of time on radio / buses and other regular media. IIRC, there was a post in the hub about this song being very similar to some Hindi old number. Though I don't know such connections, when it arrived, I clearly remember branding it like "one of those piano-oldie-like songs".
This movie initially had the controversial 'nAn Gandhi alla' title which was objected by many groups and subsequently changed to 'nAn mahAn alla' - either by censor insistence or to avoid trouble with them. (Good that they did such as the posters were quite glamorous by the standards of 80's with Radha quite exposed and it wouldn't have been appropriate to associate Gandhiji's name stuck on such posters). I don't remember watching that movie (not even the songs on youtube) but guess it was a violent one, going by the title. Interestingly, a recent movie had the same title too.
IIRC, 'ommEla oru kaNNu, thillA langudiyO' was a much bigger hit in the hostel and on the streets. That way, MV scored over SPB in this movie with respect to commercial success.
#158 மாலை சூடும் வேளை
(நான் மகான் அல்ல, 1984 , ஜானகியுடன்)
A strings beauty with the sweet SPB-SJ pair. Very pleasant melody packaged with terrific orchestration where IR possibly worked a little extra :-) What a lovely shenoy jump-in for the second interlude! The whole "evening lovers feel" instantly gets transported to a northie marriage feel in matter of few notes, magical! Only a very complex musical mind like that of IR's can ever come up with such a seamless yet dramatic transformation! One can't help but draw some parallels to the fantastic 'hEy pAdal onRu' that has a similar interlude!
Both singers sound relishing the musical rain that goes along with their voices! romba anubhavichchuppAdi irukkAnga. The way they end the saraNam and come back to the pallavi shows how thoroughly they enjoy doing this number!
For some reason, I used to confuse this song with another in the 'nAn sigappu manithan' song because one my friends had both these together in a cassette and kept playing them frequently. A lot of sweet SPB-SJ-IR songs from that time period that one loses count!
Beautiful songs and excellent write-ups App on two of my most favorite songs. :clap: The shenoy in Maalai Soodum VeLai takes the song to another level as you aptly described as 'seamless yet dramatic transformation'. A very bright and brisk duet in some amazing locations.
I believe this year (1984) is totally belongs to Rajini. Right from Anbulla Rajinikanth, Kai kodukkum kai, Naan Mahan Alla and the list goes on. Every film is super duper hit and every film has memorable songs. And all Rajini films this year, I have watched in theaters, atleast once, thanks to my neighbors who are hardcore fans. I cannot forget one dialogue from this film which we used to mimic those days. Oru viral Krishnarao will say 'Mudhalaali, Ivan thaai paal'lai vaLarala, pulipaal'lai vaLarnthirukkaan'. For that Nambiar will replay ' Ivana Konjam konjama MeNNu Muzhunganum' in his style and casually chew the thangabaspam. Top class!
Apart from IR films, I loved Pokkiri Raja and that evergreen 'Vidiya Vidiya Sollitharuven'. Just humming that one gives goosebumps.
Kalyanam Vaibogham is a very emotional song for me as I have expressed earlier. One of SJ's best, if not the best. The bass portions in 'Maalai Soodum VeLai' will sound like another voice singing. So much life in bass notes. Melting flute and classical violin is the highlight , with enjoyable singing by both SPB and SJ. I even remember Rajini will walk stylishly with his hands in pocket. Adorable! Super star rocks!!
nanRi, V_S!
mAlai soodum vELai youtube (very good video quality) :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iha1nlWhwjY
Thanks for the wonderful treats, app_eng.
Naan Mahan Alla's Janu-Ilayaraja's piano delight is my favorite.
1984... joyous carefree school years.. malai soodum velai is perennial favorite
vinatha
நல்வரவு, baroque :-)
Continuing with 1984 SPB, I need to make a minor adjustment in the alpha order now.
To push one of my most fav albums to the end of the year and feature the 'paLLi ezhuchchi song' of my cousin (i.e. at the time of arrival for many months) as the last song of the year.
So NPP gets pushed to the "end of the year" and the "thavil thadAladi unmaththam" number gets a small advancement :-)
#159 போடு தந்தானத்தம்
(நல்ல நாள், 1984 , ஜானகியுடன்)
SJ sings in the first saraNam as "மேலே பாரு பாதாளம், கீழே பாரு ஆகாயம்" :lol2: and that's the way I used to feel when listening to this song at the time of arrival. What an "unmaththam" feel! The thavil adi-thadi, excellent flute, sweet guitar sounds and SPB-SJ in full form! IMG, there are some situations that make IR feel in an extreme kushi mood that results in him calling the 'Asaiya kAththula thoothu vittu' kind of adi-thadi.
Ofcourse, he did it the first time in Johny. Then this. Then in some stage concerts where 'Asaya kAththula' got featured (was it in Italy?). And then in an Ajantha song that was supposed to be made in multiple languages simultaneously. So, my calculated guess is somebody made him in an extreme kushi mood in such cases and he responded with the thavil (or thavilish) adi-dhadi. There could have been other songs and occasions as well (mAsi mAsam ALana poNNu?) but these are the ones quickly recalled.
As we have been tracking in this thread, this year seemed to be a big SPB-SJ combo year and this is another addition. What an addition - showcasing some of their exclusive tricks in providing a variety of feel to the listeners. What makes me really dumbfounded is the effortless way they seem to have delivered such singing. (Seeing them on videos possibly contribute to this awe as both don't show any kind of alattal at all while delivering terrific variations in the final output :shock: All the processing appear to happen just like that in that "passage of air from lungs to throat to outside world" with rest of the body hardly getting stretched!)
Should listen to this song in powerful woofers to get the total impact! Had that experience with some recording centers / tea shops those days and one cannot explain that thrill in words!
All the processing appear to happen just like that in that "passage of air from lungs to throat to outside world" with rest of the body hardly getting stretched!)
Exactly, App, well put. Awesome singing by the magical duo! I don't exactly remember listening to this song before (though vetta veli from the same film is one of my favo SJ solos); been looping this song since morning today. Gawd, what top-notch quality prelude and interludes... the caressing saxophone, the springy flute, the jubilant rhythms (especially when the acoustic drums join in, wow!), a violin solo here, a guitar lead there … AdavanE, too much ra! :bow:
KV,
I'm glad you liked this number. One of my top favourties when it arrived!
IIRC, nalla nAL was another "Devar films" production (I see R Thiyagarajan as the director for this movie) with Vijayakanth as hero.
Sureshji posted about this song sometime back...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sureshs65
There are a couple of SPB numbers in the SP Muthuraman directed 'nalla thambi' in which Karthik starred. (Was it an AVM movie by any chance? And how many nalla thambees have been made in TF? I remember another one that had N S Krishnan doing a fantastic song against madhu arakkan - 'kudichchuppazhakaNum' - script was by aNNA aka CNA)
Well, this Karthik as nalla thambi must have been a terrible flop as these songs don't seem to be in my memory at all :shock:
In any case, we'll have a Karthik song for today :-) Though he was playing the 'abbAs' role and not the lead role in that movie :wink:
#160 முத்தாடுதே முத்தாடுதே (நல்லவனுக்கு நல்லவன், 1984 , ஜானகியுடன்)
Though a big hit for Rajini and rAsA, not that much memorable for our thread nAyak as KJY did all three songs for Rajini (the tremendous trio - chittukku, unnaiththAnE, vachchukkavA) while the sole number given to SPB was for the villainish Karthik. And a relatively weak song as well from a melody / singer POV but terrific on orchestration, esp drum work! IMO, there's some kind of disinterest in SPB and this song didn't get his 100%, despite being a hit. SJ did a "day-in-the-office" kind of job, perhaps singing exactly as rAsA spec'ed.
I clearly remember the "ship-like-setting" extravaganza by AVM for this song. Karthik romancing "ThuLasi" (that young boy of Sankarabharanam who later did Kamal's raped sis role in SKV) wasn't a big thrilling thing anyways, especially when one had Rajini in that movie. Well, the song was "hip" by the standards of those days and very listenable & enjoyable even now - the prelude and interludes are terrific.
In the college days, when SPB was the top favourite among most wingmates (i.e. more than KJY), this album wasn't as appreciated as, say, SKV. However, the songs were big favourites for me and to this day I listen to chittukku & unnaiththAnE very frequently. muththAduthE and vachchukkavA occasionally. 'namma modhalALi'? Not in years :-)
The movie was a big hit and possibly the point at which my neighbor in the hostel, who used to be a big KBR fan, starting to lean towards the Rajini side. He used to describe with so much thrill the "flash-back-dress-change-of-aged-Rajini-with-leather-jacket-kind-like-old-rowdy" :lol:
App
Thanks for the Podu Thanthanaththam song. One of the beautiful songs by the duo (every one in the last several days were excellent)
This one is special, reminds me of the "Khullam Khullam,," song from RDB's Khel Khel Mein. Our IR song is better in my opinion.
"muthadudhe" is a great song, I loved it when the song came out, better than the other songs. Ofcourse the KJY's songs became a bigger hit, though
bala
Wow , hearing Podu Thanthanam for the 1st time , jeez what a song , what singing by the celebrated duo ..Brilliance personified ..
Dig //
There was a Karthik film, which had suhasini as the heroine :frightened: , Karthik had similar looks of Alaigal Oivathillai, the MD was IR and it had few songs by SPB, name of the movie pls ?
//
Thanks
Aagaya Gangai...I think
http://www.itsdiff.com/Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
Listen to Jul 20, 2011 program by "Simulation Sundar" Part 1 between 27.00-36.00.
I was listening to this program yesterday and when I heard this part I remembered you mentioning about these 2 songs and their similarities. Great App!!
The same info is also available here: http://tfmpage.com/forum/15167.20880.03.21.22.html
nanRi genesis, for the links!
I'll listen to the audio link once I reach home. Looks like both songs have some "rasika ranjani" in them :-)
nanRi balaji!
Going by the songs posted so far for 1984, it was undoubtedly a predominantly duet year for SPB with relatively less solo hits. And >90% of those duets were with SJ :-)
#161 அடியே மனம் நில்லுன்னா நிக்காதடி
(நீங்கள் கேட்டவை, 1984 , ஜானகியுடன்)
What prompted Balu Mahendra to make this movie, I don't know. However, I very clearly remember reading about his trying to "please the mass" and giving the sarcastic title for the movie. (Though it politely tells that "I give you what you want", he perhaps meant "you get what you asked for" or worse, "what you deserve" :lol2:). Regardless of his intentions for the movie / title, the professional called rAsA had his priorities very clear. He gave a superb, fantastic, terrific, phenomenal soundtrack to the TFM audience!
Well, unfotunately, he also gave BM what he wanted -kanavu kANum vAzhkkai yAvum :wink: So, though both the mass public and BM were the winners, rAsA was the sole loser in the end :-( Despite getting thrilled over his colossal original output of 1000's of numbers over the years, it hurts all his admirers when someone points to that ditto of a Kalyanji-Anandji composed Hindi number. The very mention of that song gives a "soththakkadalai menRa" feel to me. Well, that song had KJY as singer and not relevant to this thread. Still, such small pulambal keeps coming up each time I talk about neengaL kEttavai.
Well, that movie was in a blatant commercial "song/dance/fight/piRappu ragasiyam" format - nothing like any other BM movie - with a ton of stars (Poornima Jayaram in ammA role, Banuchandar, Archana, Thiyagarajan, Silukku). As attempted, it had huge commercial success as well. It had 2 KJY solos (kanavu kANum & piLLai nilA), 1 SJ solo (piLLai nilA) and 3 duets by our celebrated pair. The classiest dappAnguththu ever in TFM (i.e. purely from a musical viewpoint and not based on what happens on screen) is getting featured in this post and the other two will follow for the next couple of days.
What a terrific start - one of the best ever in IFM!
I think I should refrain from writing about this song and spend all the superlatives to get myself exhausted. I should rather let the song leave its impact on readers / listeners as they get another dose of it :-)
Realized after a post in MV thread that the MV song in nallavanukku nallavan was a duet with SPB...don't want to leave that out for this thread and will feature that after the neengaL kEttavai numbers are done.
Also, asked V_S in the IR-duets thread for his detailed post on the classic 'O vasantha rAjA' :-)
Maalai Soodum is my favorite. Nice writeup App. Surprising to know that Ommele Oru Kannu was popular than Maalai Soodum and Kalyanam Vaibogham.
Podu Thanthaanatham & Adiye Manam are terrific especially for SPB & SJ singing. What a pair of singers... irreplaceable in TFM. The energy in Adiye Manam, I can't remember many songs that match or come close to it.
nanRi rajkumarc!
youtube of muththAduthE :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgNr4Jzf_ks
adiyE manam youtube (there's a slightly better video quality youtube but that misses the starting drum-beats. So, rejected) :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_k0rAZcUz4g&feature=related
Another very good quality video :
(kalyANam vaibOgam of NMA)...definitely not seen this movie...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA_izaC_4zg