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app,

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I truly believe Gayam-2 was in the same league as 'Paa'. 'andhala lokam' for example, takes a theme similar to the 'Adhu Oru Kana Kaalam' and grows wonderfully around it. And 'SnehaVeedu', what can I say? The master is in peak form as of now and so, inspite of Yuvan, I am very confident of NEVP. Infact I am very confident of 'Gundello Godavari' as well. Looking forward to that album also. Ofcourse I look forward to *every* Raja album :)

suresh - you escaped the trap of defending your character :lol: - this is how they operate. Trying to provoke you on your character and then crying kuiyo muraiyo about your replies. Good you realised it.
genesisku advice paNdra unga character mosamnA, IRukku advice paNNum makkaL character? appappA ninaikkavE mudiyala...

hmm - hollywoodla john williams irukkaar, goldsmith irundhaar, horner, zimmer, desplat, sylvestri, newman, john barry, howard shore etc etc etc innum neraiya per irukkango! aanaa inga hollywood composers fans indha madhiri ellaam adichhikkiradhu kidayaadhu! adhu yennaa, they deal with 'adulation' far differently than we do!

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Originally Posted by Sureshs65

Senthil,

Thanks for the links. I have heard some of these and I will listen to the others soon. I don't know much about the Malayalam films though.

As a person who had closely followed MSV during that time, because I was defending him AGAINST Raja, I know how the scenario was then. How the one hour 4 to 5pm Sunday program on Madras A, which I followed religiously in the late 70s and early 80s, saw a program which was initially full of MSV melodies slowly getting replaced by Raja melodies. And this program was based on letters which came to the station and not the station selection. ("madhuraiyilirundu Kanaka, mayiladudhariayilirundhu Mahesh, Nagerkoililirundhu Nagesh etc.) Added to it was my own assessment of his songs during that period. Today if I were to fill my mp3 player with MSV's songs, the no:of songs from 80s will be less. I don't want to go movie by movie on your list but none of the Tamil movies that you mentioned will go into his canon, which is very large by the way. You may consider it my 'opinion' and that is fine by me but I do still hold, having heard the music of those times, that MSV's music did decline in quality during those time. So we will leave it at it as my opinion and not as a fact.

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App_engine,

Wow, some sharp words. My intent was not to show MSV was earth shattering in 80's. He was definitely washed out by Raja wave and phenomenal output. Within the context of our discussion, wanted to show he still gave good songs, may not popular hit but he still had something in his kit and didn't "lose" it. Anyway, I don't have any insider track to tackle any of the things you mentioned so I'm out of this.

Raja is indeed a composer, arranger, conductor, instrumentalist all rolled into one. (I loved the way he conducted Schubert piece in endrendrum raja show) If we use that as a benchmark most music director will fail :)


Suresh,

Agree, he will be remembered for his earlier work without a doubt. My opinion is, it is because of the conditions and set-up more but then I'm not saying anything new and repeating my earlier statements. So I'm gonna bail out of this MSV discussion and return back to Raja -- home ground!

It was a fun ride.

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hmm - hollywoodla john williams irukkaar, goldsmith irundhaar, horner, zimmer, desplat, sylvestri, newman, john barry, howard shore etc etc etc innum neraiya per irukkango! aanaa inga hollywood composers fans indha madhiri ellaam adichhikkiradhu kidayaadhu! adhu yennaa, they deal with 'adulation' far differently than we do!

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Neenga imdb message boarda konjam paarunga. Same kuthuthaan. We are better civilized! Chinna doubt, Did you mean? Randy newman or Thomas newman?

irir123,

As senthilv says, the 'kozhayadi sandai' there is even worse. Infact we should not be talking about John Williams et al, because it is not music which has 'seeped into the blood' of most people there. Instead we should be talking about rock and pop musicians, as this is seeped in their blood as much as Raja and MSV are in our blood. The fights (in youtube for example) between the fans of these artists no know boundaries. It is when you read them that you are happy about the civilized way we debate here :D

senthil,

Yes. I guess we have both made our statements and anything beyond this will only be a repetition. So let us leave it here :)

Vinatha,

Not want to get into a debate about humility, 'serukku' and all but I personally consider Illayaraja as great an artist as Subramanya Bharathi was. As P_R correctly put it, we would have probably seen Bharathi in different light had he been our contemporary (and there was a bulletin board like this :) ) Purely my personal view: from an artistic point of view Raja in music is on par with Bharathi in poetry.

Hi Guys
We are all united because of his Music... & Not because of his speech or his Views...He also admitted many times that his job is Music and not Speech...Let us enjoy HIS Music which is divine and unites us all....
Madhanraj M

Vinatha - solluvEn. NandrAga nAnooru muRai koori koLvEn(I am not sure you'll get this barathiyaar reference). See, this is the thing. You have so many character prescriptions for IR - bharathiyaar ippO irundhA avarukkum prescription vechuruppinga.

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