The above youtube has three songs (all recently posted about...kalyANam / thAzham poovE / unnaiththAnE of KJY)...
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The above youtube has three songs (all recently posted about...kalyANam / thAzham poovE / unnaiththAnE of KJY)...
energy flying high with IR's melam and acoustic drums.:bluejump:
Only ஜானு can match பாலா's naughtiness!:thumbsup:
இது ராஜா பாட்டு!
Great gift for Navaratri from you, App_eng!
Thanks.
SHUBH NAVRATRI TO YOU ALL!
நீங்கள் கேட்டவை....dazzling இளையராஜா .... one more outstanding composition coming up from you.....mmmm... we are all ready!
Vinatha.
App, I think NK was a flop
At the minimum, I've seen 50 days' posters on the released theater itself in Trichy :-) Means, commercial success. I'm not sure about Chennai, but the central / south TN, it had a good run and that guy Banuchandar had a few more movies...Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
#162 நானே ராஜா
(நீங்கள் கேட்டவை, 1984 , ஜானகியுடன்)
This is primarily a SPB-show kind of song (I think for a light-music troupe / stage singer) and rAsA lets loose some nice drum work and other jazzy stuff. The brief indulgences by SJ in the saraNams are breezy and excellent complement to the stylish delivery of Balu. I don't remember the on-screen stuff at this moment, but going by the 'adiyE manam' visuals, there's strong possibility that Thiyagarajan is shown on-screen with YGM on the "fiber-drums" in a stage-light-music-performance setting.
The sounds that came out of those "fiber-drums" are my all-time favourites.
I'm sure the opening adi-dhadi of 'adiyE manam', end of saraNam of 'iLamai idhO idhO' and such excellent stuff came from the same kind of drums that are shown on-screen in rAjapArvai for the legendary instrumental piece...one of my friends used to quote abaswaram Ramji frequently on this - that only abaswaram's troupe and Ilayaraja had those drums then, in the whole state. YGM is seen with them on photos on the web (pictures possibly taken during the rAjA pArvai time period). In this movie again, he is seen to be playing drums...I know there're a few NT-thread hubbers who are close to him and perhaps we can ask them if YGM actually plays them too. It's unfortunate that this learned guy (B.Tech-MBA?) was made to play absolutely silly roles like that one in SKV. With his acclaimed stage skills, he could have made it better if he took up more of serious - even villainish - roles on screen rather than the sidekick comedy stuff for which he is primarily known for.
Despite knowing that this is not a regular BM stuff, all of us undertook trip to Trichy from hostel to watch the movie - partly a mark of respect to the director of moonRam piRai and partly to show appreciation for rAsA songs . While everyone got irritated with the movie overall, by now I'm tuned to the 'even closing eyes one can enjoy rAsA mode' and was satisfied with the experience :-)
YGM plays Mridangam for sure. Drums? Not so sure.Enga shaktiprbahuvukku oNNu vitta aNNanA iruppInga pOla? YGM serious roleA?But unga thinkingla oru nyaayam irukku - apdiyaavadhu makkaLai sirikka vekka mAttArAnnu kaNakku pOdaRInga. Good thinging :thumbsup:
Plum,Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
This one is kind of a rare link :
http://www.thehindu.com/arts/history...cle2103930.ece
The Samuel Grubb quoted here may be the singer of 'aNNE aNNE sippAyaNNE'.
And please note this portion :
With three guitarists, possibly YGM was playing drums and not mridh :-)Quote:
In those days, beat bands — usually a quartet consisting of three guitarists and a drummer — were in vogue (Y.Gee Mahendra, who played the drums, and I combined to form a beat band named Phantoms). To break away from this trend and give its line-up greater variety, The Medics hoped to take in a saxophonist named Pacheco. For this to happen, Pacheco had to succeed in his attempt to get into MMC. When I told the dean how valuable this saxophonist could be to The Medics, he responded positively. ‘All other things being equal, Pacheco will get a nod if he performed moderately well in the interview,' he said. Our hopes were dashed when Pacheco developed cold feet and did not turn up for the interview.
Dig
Here're some more interesting parts from that MMV / MMC linkku :
Quote:
When a candidate was being assessed for admission to a medical college, his accomplishments in areas such as sports and music were also given weightage. A letter from music director M.S. Viswanathan stating that I was a good musician helped me get into MMC.
end-digQuote:
During a performance by The Medics, a youngster came on to the stage with a request. He was carrying a violin and a paper with music notes. He handed us the paper and requested that we play it. Since none of us could read music fluently, we asked him to play it on his violin while we followed him. As he played, we were wonder-struck. We took our hands off our instruments and were lost in the grandeur of his music. That youngster was L. Subramaniam — a fellow student at MMC. He later became the kingpin of the MMC orchestra which won many contests around the country.
App,
Loved all your posts. As KV expressed, excellently written on 'Adi POdu Thanthanam'.:clap: Hearing now non-stop.
SPB-SJ dream combination will never occur again and it is clearly a setback for playback singing.
A wonderful year of oustanding music complemented by this dominant pair.
Regarding Nallavanukku Nallavan, my first favorites were Muthaaduthe and Chittukku while other songs caught me little later.
NeengaL KEttavai is one special soundtrack with every composition is an epic, except the one which lets us down and embarrassed as always, as you mentioned.
Thanks for all your encouragement on writing on 'O Vasantha Raja'. I am not sure if I will meet your expectations, but will write soon about it.
To be honest, I haven't started on it, quite hectic these days. App, please do not wait for me, write your thoughts on this terrific song, waiting to read.
I can never ever imagine your dedication and non-tiring effort to get this thread moving at a super fast and at the same time providing us with highest quality posts blended with your thorough experience. What amazed me more, is even if by chance missed day or two posting songs, you keep track of that closely and catch up in very next days. Till today not a single day was missed without posting. :notworthy:
Plum,
YGM does play the congos / bongos for sure. I have seen it do live in some program on TV. I did not know he played mridangam.
in a KJY interview in DD he played mrudhangam in the end as requested by KJY (YG was the interviewer).Quote:
Originally Posted by Sureshs65
Oh child of 80s Jai, me also same interview watching and giving this news here today.Doordarshan pArththu vaLarndha balageenamAna koottam :lol:
ok, V_S_ji - no pressure - post about O vasantha rAjA at your vasathi :-)
Let me continue with the "routine" :-)
#163 ஒ வசந்த ராஜா தேன் சுமந்த ரோஜா
(நீங்கள் கேட்டவை, 1984 , ஜானகியுடன்)
Sweet & innovative duet by rAsA with his top-seeded-pair, the third one from the same movie! By this time, we were quite accustomed to his brand of fusion (starting from the days of nizhalgaL or even before, reaching a spectacular high with panivizhum malarvanam etc). So, it was no longer awe-inspiring or making one stunned. It was kind of "expected" or "given" that rAsA does some ICM+western -organic / seamless / homogenous - fusion number every month (or every week) :lol2:
By that count, O vasantha rAjA, while seen with awe from today's standpoint as a musical marvel (100K views on youtube for the hopeless video of Archana / Banuchandar...means most views are for appreciation of rAsA music only), was "just another hit" for rAsA, from a 1984 POV. Yes, it had a lot of radio time / bus time / teakkadai time etc but so were 100 other rAsA numbers from the same year and this definitely didn't stand out. What a prolificity (ask ANY composer living in the world to match IR's 80-85 record, impossible)!
We'll wait patiently for the musical dissection of the number by V_S in the coming days and meanwhile enjoy the splendid singing by SJ-SPB and the awesome orchestration by our brilliant composer!
This is the youtube I mentioned in the last post (of having 100K+ views, despite a very amateurish picturization by BM standards) :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjHmd3PmyFs
Plum,
One commenter at youtube (need not be authentic, chummA oru idhukku :-) ) :
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr B O
Devi bala 100 days run_ngaradhe code word for flop app :)Oru medium sized living room dhaan devi bala. Sila flop padangal 100 days poster ottaradhukunne anga mattum noon show ottuvaanga.
Plum :-)
For the next song...I see a film called nEram nalla nEram with an SPB number listed but never heard before (and it doesn't sound like SPB)...
So, skip such numbers and keep scrolling down the 1984 list...to reach one of the best thrillers ever made in TF, IMO :-)
#164 விழியிலே மணி விழியில் மௌன மொழி
(நூறாவது நாள், 1984 , ஜானகியுடன்)
What a sweet prelude and grand second interlude that decorate a song borrowed from an acclaimed Kannada classic -also by the same SPB-SJ-IR combo, jotheyalli! The first interlude has a humming similar to the TVG stuff that we were treated earlier in andhi mazhai & idhu oru nilAkkAlam. However, I don't know who does in this number...Like on many other occasions, the humble Manivannan happily accepted this borrowed tune from Kannada to "fill" the brief joyous moments in an otherwise tense film.
And what a tense film that proved to be :shock: One of the most unforgettable movies for me from college days! I think this was screened in the newly opened Rambha / Oorvashi complex in Trichy near Cauvery river. (I may be wrong here - it's possible I saw this in Maris complex...either way, in the Chatram bus stand area). The BGM of this movie was so chilling - the exotic rAsA concoction with traditional Indian + western drums and some eerie sounds whenever the heroine gets into the ESP mode. And the scene where Nalini is brave enough to take the kOdAri to hit the drywall :shock:
A not to be missed movie that became a roaring success - starring an unusual Mohan / Nalini / Vijayakanth combination in which Satyaraj hit a bulls-eye with his mottai & round sun goggles! There were two other numbers (ulagam muzhudhum pazhaya rAththiri by KJY/VJ & uruguthE by VJ) that had some air time but vizhiyilE was the biggest hit and it's popular to this day. The song's recent avatAr - jAnE dO nA in cheeni kum with Shreya G's voice is very sweet as well, a piano beauty!
Ever-green melody, ever-young singers, ever-iLaya-king's music :-)
#165 ரோஜா ஒன்று உள்ளங்கையில் பூத்தது
(ஒ மானே மானே, 1984 , ஜானகியுடன்)
IIRC, this movie was a remake of the Hindi movie Julie where Lakshmi acted. The original had that fantastic "Julie, I love you" song (Rajesh Roshan music per wiki , I used to enjoy the song very much during my school days...it was a 1975 movie where Sridevi acted as a child artist it seems). The Thamizh remake after a decade - starring Mohan-Oorvashi - was a big flop despite nice music (this SPB-SJ guitar sweetie should have been the Thamizh equivalent of Julie I love you) and hype (Kamal singing a song as pinnaNippAdakar for Mohan, pon mAnaith thEduthE).
I had the misfortune of watching this movie in some "seconds" theater located between tolgate and Thiruverumbur on Trichy-Tanjore road. Simply atrocious :-( The Hindi original, directed by southie K S Sethumathavan was a hit it seems but nothing worked in its TF avatar.
Nevertheless, this duet was a big hit on radio and the usual 80's media. The chords are such a sweet delight and there's a small hint in the starting that the director wanted this song as the equivalent for the Hindi classic. SPB sings in a very youthful voice (sounds like 70's). For SJ, this was an extremely strong year and this is one more addition to our already-long-list-of-hits-in-84 with SPB. Like I often say, the interludes are not to be written about but simply experienced and enjoyed!
ok, it's unfair not to inform the original's original :-)
The indhi Julie was a remake of a Malayalm original, chattakkAri , meaning 'Anglo Indian', who is the main character of the tale.
I don't know if there was a special song in the Malayalam original, though. Lead actress (Lakshmi) & the director (KSS) are same for both MY & HI...
I watched both Nooraavathu Naal and Neengal KEttavai in Devi theatre. I remember getting last tickets for NK, but I vaguely remember we watched the film around 50th day. But when i went to watch some other film few weeks later, NK was shifted to Devi Bala/Kala and ran there for 100 days. So Plum was correct, it didn't run substantially well, but it was made to run.
Could not forget the experience of watching NN in Devi theatre. Heavy crowd and all silent during those Nalini-Satyaraj encounters. Mohan in bloody coldest role. Never seen anything like that. Yes the songs were little relief for the tense film. Wonderfully written App about NN experience!
Same here in terms of the experience watching Nooravadhu Naal first time in theater. In Coimbatore, it was screened in Manis which was brand new and I think Nooravathu Naal was the first movie they screened. I was less than 10 yrs old then and it was a thoroughly scary experience enhanced by the music. My heart was in my mouth literally during the kodari scene :smile: Unforgettable background score by IR in this movie - title track, Sathyaraj-Nalini scenes, Nalini alone in the haunted house.
Vizhyile is my favorite song in NN and it remains so even after discovering Jotheyalli much later. The lyrics is pretty decent. My other favorite from this movie is Uruguthe Idhyame wonderfully rendered by VJ with some mindblowing orchestration depicting the spookiness (yes, I'm big fan of IR's songs in this genre :smile:)
App, chattakari literally means what you can guess from your tamil knowledge. One who wears a shirt. It is not hard to guess the origins of the term from times when anglo indians were probably the only Indians to wear "shirts" as opposed to sarees etc. The term clearly cannot act as a social marker these days given the widespread use of shirts across strata by women.Reg chattakri songs, I remember vaguely but I think "alliyambal" is a much revered classic from this movie. Probably by G Devarajan. Sagar or someone can confirm.
Plum,
'Chattakaari' had music by Devarajan, if I remember right. 'Julie' had nice songs. Composed by Rajesh Roshan, who had given some lovely songs in his early days. Ofcourse Raja's take is outstanding. 'roja ondru' has class written all over it and I love the whole 'Maane Maane' album.
Oh Maane Maane had lovely songs. Roja Onddru has SPB in fine form as far as expression goes. Lovely tune. Just those lovely bass lines - Aaaahaa!
And I love that song as well "Ponmaane theduthe" by Kamal.
And another favourite is that exquisite "Abhiraamiye" - sung by P.Susheela & Janaki. Lovely composition! Has a vintage melody feel to it!
Roja ondru is right up there, on the top draw, in the Mohan hits/IR guitar based songs category. The pallavi concoction of SPB's vocals+guitars+bass+drums is gooseflesh stuff :bow:
Plum :-)
My translation was as per the colloquial Malayalam:-) Ofcourse, you're right in the literal sense.
Likewise, 'sAyabu' (Shahib) in kochchai Malayalam means 'veLLaikkAran / foreigner' :-)
May be problem with my machine - I keep getting "Parse error: syntax error, unexpected '<' in /home/forumh3/public_html/talk/includes/class_core.php(4489) : eval()'d code on line 138
" and cannot see the last page in the regular view...using the old tfmpage.com/forum...
Roja Ondru - Ore the Loves :)
What youthful singing by SPB , SJ at her vivacious best ..
Lots of louly Guitar touches throughout and its a violin treat in the 2nd interlude , check out the fast flowing chromatic appearing at 02:32 ..
App, yeah that is correct. I was just adding details on the possible origin of the term as a reference to anglo indian women. Note that anglo indian men aren't called chattakaarans. Obviously, women wearing shirts was the big deal then hence the term.Anyway, I have had occasion to refer Roja ondru in the last heard Raja song thread. Bala Karthik first rejected it and then came back suitably chastised after a few days
Looks like the term "sElaikkAri" is needed at present (or in the very near future) to describe such rare specimens :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
:lol: that was a good one App!
but we could use the term "thavanikari" now.Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
I too remember my Nooravathu Naal experience real well... Me and my buddy next door went to see this movie at new Sapna complex in Salem for a noon show. I think that was probably one of my first outing w/o adults (just entering teens). Having never experienced Hollywood horror movies before that Nooravathu Naal was real scary experience... good grief it was still sunny when came out at the end of the movie. I also remember a lady seated nearby asked us "என்ன தம்பி பயமாயிருக்கா?" during the movie.
Me and the same buddy had a similar "scary" experience watching "Alien" in the same theater few months later.
Sathyaraj's career took-off with this movie. 2 years later he had become hero of "Kadalora Kavithaigal". IIRC, Sathyaraj does not have any dialogue in this movie.
As I can see now, Nooravathu Naal does not need any songs. So Manivannan would have been happy to take remake of Kannada song. After reading App's post yesterday (I did not listen, just read), this song was playing in my head all day - I could recall every bit including SJ's giggle.... such is the power of this song (well it was in our first TDK cassette)
#166 ஓ தேவன் கோவில் வீணை
( ஓ மானே மானே, 1984 , ஜானகியுடன்)
Yet another guitar sweetie from the same movie. Interstingly, after listening to this in the hostel, I don't remember listening to this on radio at all but ONLY on buses. This song should have been a big favourite with those recording centers and they possibly recommended to all the buswAlAs who came to record cassettes. I have heard it not only during student days but more so during my initial Palakkadan days when visiting Coimbatore. The CBE buswalas seemed to have a strong taste for this song, as in the case of 'nilavonRu kaNdEn'.
With a sweet melody, SPB singing like a boy & SJ in her top form, this song is another delight from the combo during this year - we'll count the number in the end of the year, must be a long-time-record for a duet pair, unless there had been more numbers within a year during the peak days of TMS-PS ! They were the only duet pair in TFM who were as prolific at any point of time in the history!
Well, there are still more numbers to come in this year and looks like we won't be doing that exercise any time soon :-)
:rotfl:Quote:
Originally Posted by genesis
She must have been scared as well, it helps to speak out / scream out to reduce the fear levels :-)
Nooravathu Naal, Pei padama :shaking: :shaking: :shaking:
App anna
I have never seen the film, what is the Film about :shaking:
Suspense thriller. Note that Genesis said the film was watched without Hollywood experience. By now, since we are exposed to so many films, it won't be as scary. But back then yes, Sathyaraj's most notable role.Quote:
Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN
ESP (extra sensory perception). So, pEippadam'num sollalAm because there's no scientific explanation for ESP and there's possible connection to occult / spiritism.Quote:
Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN
That plus murder mystery / suspense thriller. Sathyaraj was quite menacing and so was rAsA's BGM!