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What? People can call IR arrogant just because he has a different opinion to theirs. I canlt call people arrogant for saying that anyone who doesn't agree with their opinion is arrogant. If my post is deleted, delete all posts attacking IR's character. Enakku nyaayam vENum. Nyaayam kaavaali. I demand justice. Why this double standards? Mujhe insaaf chaahiye. Nange nyaaya beku. Enikku vENum jusdice. Why is our society like this? And how come such arrogance by people calling those with different opinion as arrogant is not condemned? Manasaatchi work paNdradhillayaa peopleku? I just don't understand.

@Plum and suresh - with you 100% on this..

I was intrigued by IR's requirement of the 108-piece orchestra! why 108 in particular ??!

this afternoon, I was chatting with a jazz musician / singer neighbor of mine, who was enquiring 'so what is going on with your maestro's music these days ?!' and I told her abt NEPV, Angel Studios and the 108 piece orchestra!

and she goes "ah! 108 huh ? isn't that a sacred number in India ? we did 108 sun salutations (surya namaskar) on solstice day - maybe your maestro used the 108 piece orchestra for the same auspicious reason!"

i was flummoxed - did some research and found this - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/108_(number)

so did IR have a non-musical 'reason' for a 108-piece orchestra for NEPV ??

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Originally Posted by irir123

I was intrigued by IR's requirement of the 108-piece orchestra! why 108 in particular ??!

this afternoon, I was chatting with a jazz musician / singer neighbor of mine, who was enquiring 'so what is going on with your maestro's music these days ?!' and I told her abt NEPV, Angel Studios and the 108 piece orchestra!

and she goes "ah! 108 huh ? isn't that a sacred number in India ? we did 108 sun salutations (surya namaskar) on solstice day - maybe your maestro used the 108 piece orchestra for the same auspicious reason!"

i was flummoxed - did some research and found this - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/108_(number)

so did IR have a non-musical 'reason' for a 108-piece orchestra for NEPV ??

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Hope it's not true!

if it is, that's crazy...Paavam Producer! :sigh2: mottai adi , maattina nalla!

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Originally Posted by irir123

I was intrigued by IR's requirement of the 108-piece orchestra! why 108 in particular ??!

this afternoon, I was chatting with a jazz musician / singer neighbor of mine, who was enquiring 'so what is going on with your maestro's music these days ?!' and I told her abt NEPV, Angel Studios and the 108 piece orchestra!

and she goes "ah! 108 huh ? isn't that a sacred number in India ? we did 108 sun salutations (surya namaskar) on solstice day - maybe your maestro used the 108 piece orchestra for the same auspicious reason!"

i was flummoxed - did some research and found this - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/108_(number)

so did IR have a non-musical 'reason' for a 108-piece orchestra for NEPV ??

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I believe its not related to that and as per my understanding about IR, He used to do whatever he thought and wont relate the thoughts to anything. as a fans and others we are relating and get surprised abt it.

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Originally Posted by Devaraagam

as a fans and others we are relating and get surprised abt it.

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yes. What it is, I believe the main reason should be intentional grand orchestration. baroque why hard reactions, are you one of producers? they know value of money and value of music also

San_k,

I also posted as 'HOPE IT'S NOT TRUE!'

With the disclaimer that I have respect for legends like MSV, still I rate Raja several notches above MSV. For me Raja is the most original composer around and not MSV who had to rely on his assistants like Henry, Joseph Krishna, Govatdhanam master and other western grammaphone records to compose music esp for “modern muaic “ . Proof : Me who have witnessed few recorsing sessions . I request pammalar to dig out the “thirumbi paarkiren” series of late director Sridhar in Kalki where he explained the music composing process of MSV in one of his films “veNNiRAdai”? MSV used to pick one record from a stack of records before him and play to Sridhar for him to select and may be he developes the main melody with the approved foreign tune as base. But I learnt that was the norm those days esp for modern tunes

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Originally Posted by thumburu

With the disclaimer that I have respect for legends like MSV, still I rate Raja several notches above MSV. For me Raja is the most original composer around and not MSV who had to rely on his assistants like Henry, Joseph Krishna, Govatdhanam master and other western grammaphone records to compose music esp for “modern muaic “ . Proof : Me who have witnessed few recorsing sessions . I request pammalar to dig out the “thirumbi paarkiren” series of late director Sridhar in Kalki where he explained the music composing process of MSV in one of his films “veNNiRAdai”? MSV used to pick one record from a stack of records before him and play to Sridhar for him to select and may be he developes the main melody with the approved foreign tune as base. But I learnt that was the norm those days esp for modern tunes

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playing devil's advocate here - probably our person has memorized all the western songs and plays the one "he" has chosen to the diretakkar.

thumburu,

It was probably a norm those days that the music director was generally the tune smith and he had assistant(s) who did the orchestration. In some case the music directors were a duo in which case one did the tune and the other the orchestration, generally. Jaikishan was supposed to very good at orchestration (those he also did tune) and Shankar did the tunes well. Similarly I think Ramamurthy did the orchestration in the Vishwanathan Ramamurthy combine. Pugazhendi did most of the orchestration for K V Mahadevan. You can see the consistency in KVM's songs because Pugazhendi was with him till KVM breathed his last. We all know that Raja himself has done lot of orchestration for G K Venkatesh. Other famous examples include Jaidev, himself a great music director, who was an assistant for S D Burman and Gulam Mohammed (who gave music for 'Pakeezah' and 'Mirza Ghalib') had worked as assistant to Naushad. Even R D Burman, who was good in orchestration, had others like Manohari helping him in orchestration. (I think Sapan-Jagmohan) were also R D B's assistants. So in this case MSV was not alone.

Raja, that way, is a very unique music director in Indian film industry. Someone who writes every bar of his music. I have heard that Salil Da also used to write most of his music but I don't have confirmation on it. That is one reason why a lot of talented music directors, like Sarath for example, as in awe of Raja. And so are others who have interacted with him. In the 'Nothing But The Wind' concert, Uttam Singh mentioned that he had done arrangement for music directors like Naushad, Madanmohan etc but has never seen anyone like Raja who can do everything. That is one reason there is a consistency in Raja's music even though his style kept changing over the years.