Maestro Ilaiyaraja New Albums 2011 - Hello Jaihind / Sri Rama Rajyam

V_S,

You have saved me the trouble of writing my views since your views exactly reflect mine :) The only problem with 'Angel Angel' I have is that the second interlude is not long enough and the charanams are not long enough!!! Otherwise a lovely composition.

To me, 'Hare Rama Hare Krishna' has the freeflowing nature of 'aatamaa therottamaa'. Love this song. The song is not revolutionary in nature. This seems to be sung by gangsters.

I fully agree with you on the KJY song. You can clearly see his struggle as he goes up and it is very evident that the song has been tuned (maybe modified) keeping the limitations of his voice. And due to that the power that this song could have generated is lost.

Sureshji,
Very happy to hear that I reflected your thoughts.:-D

Btw when was HRHK supposed to be released? If i remember correctly its shooting started around mid to late 2009. Hopefully padithurai and thandavakone release ASAP.

Hulk,

I am someone feeling that HRHK may go the 'Nannavanu' way. It may release but not sure when. As far 'Thandavakone' is concerned, I have no clue. Neither about 'Sengathu Bhoomiyile'. I know that lot of people are eagerly awaiting 'Padithurai' music and movie. Not sure when this will release.

HRHK – a freaky leg-bye that does little much other than push the score towards the iconic 1000 mark (if that hasn’t happened yet, that is).
Syncopations in Angel angel and some bass lines – the only two bits that distill out from the muck, for me.

Wow, hope they see the light of the day. Due to the delays in audio release by 1 or 2 years the sound-scope sounds pretty "outdated" considering thalaivar has changed to a more jazzy style of sound nowadays.

Interview by IR:

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/tablo...-ilayaraja-552

thanks,

Krishnan

The exact link is: http://www.deccanchronicle.com/tablo...-ilayaraja-552

I am surprised by this, coming from him:

What does he think of the current propensity for recycling and remixing music?
“To produce a good remix actually needs a lot of energy. If it turns out well, it is because of hard work. I appreciate a good composition, whoever be the composer”.

Thanks Raagas for the posting the full link. After posting the news on another thread, I copy/pasted the contents here...that created the problem!

I was kinda surprised as well. Wondering if his recent experience remixing "oram po" song (in SB) speaking!

thanks,

Krishnan

I don't remember IR directly critisizing remix at any point of time.

Actually he had been doing it in one form or other from early days & thru out (kabhi-kabhi, mehboobA, ezhilAL siRpamAga, unnai onRu kEtpEn etc)...

Just that he had produced innumerable originals and these were occasional kuRumbu indulgences...

Thalaivar is not against remix, he is only against remixes that spoil the flow of the original or totally bring down the quality of the former. When he talks about remixes in interviews previously, he never fails to mention this as the reason.

BTW, Happy Birthday To The Music GOD

This song reminds me of "SIru Ponmani Asayum" from Kallukul Eeram.- ( Sudha Dhanyasi scale?)- Also the opening progression is very similar to "Poo Eru Konum" in TIS.

IR's rustic voice adds beauty to the song.. Still catching up on Ponnar Shankar and a few other Albums.

Good song .. BTW, IR week on Radio Mirchi this week .. ( typical IR replies :-( ).

Cheers
MSK

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Originally Posted by cry_sandiego

BTW, IR week on Radio Mirchi this week .. ( typical IR replies :-( ).

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but at least few of them were good..:) sample..

As Maestro Ilaiyaraaja mentioned in his interview in Radio Mirchi on his b’day June 2nd 2011,

"if you are still listening to my songs even after 30 years after it was composed, it means I have composed 30 years advance music at that time".

Though I dont want to understand it wrong or criticizes Maestro, the question that pops up in my mind is that "The songs that was composed by him was appreciated by almost entire state from 1976". What does it mean? Even the people were modern enough to appreciate future music? If not can I ask him why dint he deliver Music for contemporary audiences?"

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Originally Posted by raajarasigan

but at least few of them were good..:) sample..

As Maestro Ilaiyaraaja mentioned in his interview in Radio Mirchi on his b’day June 2nd 2011,

"if you are still listening to my songs even after 30 years after it was composed, it means I have composed 30 years advance music at that time".

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whoa! He said that?

Yes Raagas.. :) my comment on his statement.. currently, it is 30 years but actually it is infinity...

சில கேள்விகளுக்கு தலைவர் நல்லா தான் பதில் சொன்னார்...

MSV pAttu kUda dhAn ippO kEkkuROm. This sounds a bit disingenuous to me - summA oru bit pottuttAr

நெம்ப நாளா கேக்குறது, நெம்ப நாளுக்கு அப்புறம், விரும்பி நெம்ப டைம் கேக்குறது இதெல்லாமே காலம்கடந்த அட்வான்ஸ்ட் மீஜிக் தான்

As much as I detest the "dated" word in music appraisal, so do I detest this claims of "advanced", that too with a precise calculation like "advanced by 10 years" etc. We have derided the people who claim IR's music is dated here. I invoke the same clause to deride the "advanced" claim

ok, possible middle ground on dating :

There is some music that is timeless, appreciated always (classics - e.g. vizhiyilE malarndhadhu)

And there is some music which gets applause when arrived and then fade away (trendies, e.g. singAri sarakku)

And there is some music that is not understood when arrived but gets appreciated only many years after (EVK)

And there is some music that never appeals (mummy pEru mAri)

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And there is some music that is not understood when arrived but gets appreciated only many years after (EVK)

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This is debatable. EVK is not, like a retro-hit or something now. adhu vandhappOvum oru small, niche group of Raja followers appreciated it and it got overlooked by mainstream. ippOvum thanks to those original niche group, it has spread among a newer small group of niche Raja followers. It is, by no means, in mainstream conscience even today - just as it was then.

Plum, may be my EVK ejjAmple is not ok...there could be others that fit this category :-)

I am still a big fan of singari sarakku. I may get bored of on some melodies. But never on dappaanguthu songs which have a live wire. The main reason is I don't care about lyrics. They are the energy points. Absolute fun in listening.

As per IR's point of view, is idly an advanced one? Am eating this for the past 30 years without gettng bored.

I still don't understand the advance/old concept of IR. That means are we all listening all the songs of IR? May be 30 to 40% of songs from what IR composed sofar in 900 plus movies. Agree that those 30 to 40% songs itself a very big total compared to other MDs.

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Originally Posted by venkkiram

As per IR's point of view, is idly an advanced one? Am eating this for the past 30 years without gettng bored.
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Depends on what idly you are eating. If it was an idly made 30 years back and you like it now, then yes, it is a very ADVANCED idly :lol:

Jokes apart, I do agree with Plum largely.

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Originally Posted by app_engine

Plum, may be my EVK ejjAmple is not ok...there could be others that fit this category :-)

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also, i would like to condemn ur declaration that singari sarakku has faded.
naan/naanga yourtube'la adhigamaa paattha/kaetta paattula idhuvum onnu...
indha sunday kooda idhu poattu orae attagaasam.

so app, rendu rejetted...

wats evk?

ok, withdrawing singAri sarakku due to protests :-)

Replacing with 'ennadi meenAchchi' :wink:

i suggest u pls give up app...
guess ur mentioning the songs which hav faded from your memory and not in general.




evk?

Eera vizhi kaaviyangal

Friendsoda sarakkadichaa singari sarakku. Thaniyaa adichaa EVK :-)

EVK = eera vizhik kAviyangaL

oru thadavai kEttuppArunga :-)

Eera vizhi kaaviyangal

Friendsoda sarakkadichaa singari sarakku. Thaniyaa adichaa EVK :-)

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Originally Posted by Nerd

Eera vizhi kaaviyangal

Friendsoda sarakkadichaa singari sarakku. Thaniyaa adichaa EVK :-)

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same blood.
thaniyaa adikradhu kammi dhaan. evk... yaroda padam? romba palasa? kelvi patta madhiriyae illa.

கேள்விப்பட்டிருந்தா தான் ஆச்சரியம் :-)

This movie possibly ran only for a day or two in theater and I was unfortunate enough to watch within that (college days, a stronger IRF who used to claim 'rAsA padaththa kaNNa moodittE pAkkalAm' took us along).

Prathap Pothen hero, kuppam / kudisai dweller with jeans / guitar. Dreams of becoming a great singer 'en gAnam inRu arangERum'. Some kAdhal also happens. Achieves his life ambition with 'kAdhal paN pAdu'.

Considering that a typical trip from Thuvakudi to Palakkarai used to be a 45 min bus travel one-way in heat / irritating circumstances, you can imagine how much that fellow got back from us after the torture.

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Originally Posted by Sureshs65

Depends on what idly you are eating. If it was an idly made 30 years back and you like it now, then yes, it is a very ADVANCED idly :lol:

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:rotfl: .....

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Originally Posted by app_engine

ok, withdrawing singAri sarakku due to protests :-)

Replacing with 'ennadi meenAchchi' :wink:

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ngoyyAla, I protest at ennadi meenatchi in that list. The trumpets(not trumpetes actually, I cant remember the name of the instrument) and guitar work in first interlude alone will live on forever. Not to mention the "Coin being sundified in a echo room" effect before the saranam just starts.

என்னடி மீனாட்சி எல்லாம் இப்பவும் நல்ல தானே இருக்கு...

app, உங்க கடேகோரி'ல வர பாட்டுன்னா late 90's rajini songs sollalam.. again, not each and every film but few songs like Ulagathukkaaga from pandiyan, ada mappula from siva, uzhaippaali lllatha from Uzhaippali.. they were very catchy and hits but not exciting now..

Een Uzhaippali illatha paattukku enne kuraichal. And ulagathukkaga was not super hit song even those days

app, pEsAma andha categoryE withdraw paNnunga. vERA vazhiyE illai :lol:

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Originally Posted by raajarasigan

Yes Raagas.. :) my comment on his statement.. currently, it is 30 years but actually it is infinity...

சில கேள்விகளுக்கு தலைவர் நல்லா தான் பதில் சொன்னார்...

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May be, but I disagree with ilaiyaraja. There are some horrible songs (of any many composers) made decades ago that are heard and enjoyed by people. Are they are also advanced then?

This is why I prefer raaja's music over raaja's talk. No offence.

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Originally Posted by San_K

Een Uzhaippali illatha paattukku enne kuraichal. And ulagathukkaga was not super hit song even those days

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may be.. now I realized that it depends on the person as well... :) for app, it was ennadi meenatchi but few did NOT agree.. and so in our case..