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aNNanin sirandha padangaL enraal.. adhil nitchayam engaL padam irukkum enbadharkku sirandha udharanam idhu..Quote:
Originally Posted by VTV
trend setter :) :lifting the collar with perumai:
puratchi kalaignarin sirandha nadippu enru anaivarum paarattum oru padathil nagaichuvai mattum allamal gunasiththira nadipadiyum vazhangi padathirukku melum sirappakkiyavar aNNan...
idhu pOdhumya.. perumaiyoda retire aagiduvom..
Sun TV, GoundamaNi - Senthil vaaram: 16-07-12 to 20-07-12
1. vaidhEgi kaaththirundhaaL
Movie released in 1984
Directed by: R. Sundar Rajan
Plot: Heroe's uyirukku uyiraana lover kills herself in a misunderstanding. Hence he becomes a nomad singing in the night. Heroyini's husband dies on the day of their marriage. These were flashbacks. The dose of sOgam does not end there. Heroine,s father sings "thagadhimitha thagadhimitha thagadhimitha thagadhOm" in high pitch, vomits blood and dies. Will the hero and horoine join in life? Nay, with their life almost meaningless, they try to bring young lovers together, facing much opposition. The tragedy follows as the hero gets stabbed by gadappaarai. Not sure he is living or dead, helping the young lovers get married, finally revealed that he is dead.
With the plot running closer to the likes of thulaabaaram, the director cleverly blends the movie with comedy. For instance, immediately after the two flashbacks, as the audience has soaked their towels with tears, the scene cuts to a kuLaththangarai, where GoundamaNi with a thalappaa, is pal veLakking with a vEppanguchchi and Senthil runs in with some sOgam. But this sogam is different and what follows is some rip roaring stuff.
The movie was a big hit because of Raasaththi onna (whattay song!), VK (aanastu kObichuppaar) / RR's performance, screen play and direction. The talk was also on a new comedy pair called GoundamaNi and Senthil, hitherto not known to many. Their chemistry worked as if they have worked together for some 100 movies earlier.
Rekost kalaga kaNmanees to write about their favourite comedy scene / quote. No problems of repeating.
Despite, the petromax scene, mEndil breaking scene (ennaNNE odachiputteenga), Senthil sOgam scene and what follows (avanga varalla?), customer kalleRiyum scene, the scene that stands out for me is this:
The guy who turns out to be the young lover, comes into the village as an innocent guy with almost nothing. After sometime he develops and wears a pant / shirt, incidentally spotted by aNNan.
GM turns to his wife: VarumbOdhu vEtti satta yillaama vandhaan, ippo pEntu sertu potrukkaan, pOra pOkkula IN panniruvaan pOla
Turning to the guy: seekiram In paNNirungada
KS: avanaavathu pEntu sertu potrukkaan... neengo ara drowser thaan pOtrukeengO
Early days of Gounderism. The rest as they say is history.
Sambandham illaadha tidbit1: I think this movie did not have any song from VM. First hints of IR-VM cold war, b4 they broke for good
Sambandham illaadha tidbit2: Mudhal mariyaadhai released later had "raasaavE onna nambi" / "raasaavE varuththamaa" etc. (s instead of j in raaja). Not sure if VM was inspired by the successful usage of s in raasaaththi onna
Is this first direct pairing (as we know) of aNNan and Senthil?
Yes. I think the Sun TV guys have done some home work and placed this as the first movie.Quote:
Originally Posted by groucho070
Today is naadOdi mannan. Dont miss itQuote:
Originally Posted by VTV
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kosaski Pasapugazh
pls visit page number 75 and 76. PR has done some full length posts on maamanithan
http://www.mayyam.com/talk/showthrea...ndamani/page75
http://www.mayyam.com/talk/showthrea...ndamani/page76
why yaa?Quote:
Originally Posted by HonestRaj
BTW kOmutti in kOmutti thalaiyan should be derived from kOL mootti. kOL - sissy complaints, mootti - pOttu koduththal. Any alternate thhoughts?
there is something called komutti chettiyaar.
SMI,
Post-oda link podunga :) Some of us have different "posts per page" setting.
retire for engal anna..Quote:
Originally Posted by SMI
btw.. i too heard of komutti settiyaar
Oh.. adhu enakku theriyaadhu :oops: I go with the default 10 posts / pageQuote:
Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
BTW, below is the starting post continued by the discussions on that
http://www.mayyam.com/talk/showthrea...l=1#post740363
Oh ok. I think VK has achieved much more, so dont worry, peacefulla retire aaga sollungaQuote:
Originally Posted by HonestRaj
komutti chettiyaar is unheard for me. I dont think if aNNan knew about it he would have deliberately used it. Anyway, so what does komutti mean in komutti chettiyar?
i imagine a shape like "bushvaanam" / "flower pot" cracker.. adhukku peruthan komutti'nu assume panni vechurukken
Komati - a place (or clan?) in Andhra. Komati Chettiars are merchants from the Andhra land. They slowly started settling in TN and Komati became Komutti.
Annan use panniyadhu, I go with honest. And I have read somewhere that komutti is a mukkONam shaped-thingi.
I think NPP is their first movie "together" (though only by a couple of months or so). Senthil is a dhObi and GM a drunkard. I don't remember exactly now but IIRC there are a couple of scenes together...Quote:
Originally Posted by SMI
And, I'm 200% sure that 'eppadA kadA vettuveenga' was the most significant first milestone in GM's career (which was a few months prior to all-in-all-AR IIRC).
Anyways, no big deal - both are R Sundarrajan movies :-) Even if someone else comes and claims GM's big-first-comedy achievement was 'indha chennai mAnagaraththile siRappAna bilding' (PM), even that was a R S movie :-)
paththa vachchuttiyE parattai (16V ) & KPR were not really "comedian" roles, they were more of villain / villain's sidekick roles with not much of humor element...
So, the credit for introducing GM as the "main comedian" in a movie should go to R S.
Thanks for correcting App. Are there many scenes with the combo there / in VK its almost thru out? Anyway, RS certainly has played a very significant role in getting GM to the lime light. (just curious - was Rajaadhi raajaa his last major hit?)Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
Not at all - it was an 80's movie.Quote:
Originally Posted by SMI
Per my chronicling efforts in the SPB-IR thread, it was 'thirumathi pazhanichchAmy' (from the 90's) that was the last biggie for RS-IR.
I don't know if he hit something big later on with Deva.
En Aasai Machaan - Blockbuster
Kodaikanal kudhirai thozhilali movie is before or after this? Bald Senthil gives idea to poison the bayilwan boss, whose daughter Gounder louus. They poison te toothbrush only to see him brush dentures.
Another movie, lean teacher Gounder louss Manorama. Bald Senthil is the go between who eats all the alwa that Gounder sends through him.
U believe these movies may be earlier, before they bothered giving him a wig.
In VK , it doesn't feel like the first movie of a pair. They look very set already.
Which is why I think it's is probably one of the above.
Komutti kandu pudichadhum, somebody please confirm what is vaNduruttAn.
That is thenisai thendral.Quote:
Originally Posted by HonestRaj
Lovely album
ooty? The movie is Geethanjali (IR's own production) 1985. Not sure of the other one.Quote:
Originally Posted by P_R
yes.. it was thenisai thendral..
SMI & a_e asking about RS' last major hit..
couple of his notable flops by the end of his career..
seethanam - prabhu
gandhi pirantha mann - vk
kaalamellam kaathiruppen - vijay
Per Thamizh wiki, nAn pAdum pAdal was a April-14 (Chithirai 1 / ThamizhppuththANdu :wink:) movie while vaidhEki was a Oct-23 (possibly deepAvaLi) movie.
A huge gap of 6 months (by "andhakkAla" standards).
Now, the only question is in how many (if any) scenes that GM-Senthil appear together in NPP...I think many scenes are in youtube ; GM enthusiasts should be able to dig it up.
One thing I know very clearly is 'aduppu vAyA' term getting used in NPP (not necessarily prayOgichchified on Senthil). There was also definite reference of some xyz-thalai or abc-maNdai...
kudhirai thozhilALi - was that 'unnai nAn sandhiththEn' (another motherland pictures movie)?
It was AFTER NPP. The director was K Rangaraj. (Wasn't the girl Y Vijaya, acting as a MalayaLi? GM sings 'sindhu nathiyin misai / sEra nAttiLam peN' in Bharathiyar costume :lol:)
Is it not Geethanjali - the Murali starrer?Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
NPP videos are private :(
Just watched a theeppatti ad - featuring VS Raghavan as thaaLam and SR as kabaaLi with that bavyam
Dei neyvEli nilakkari surangam, unakku Oru vAzhkkaiyE kidaiyAdhu, maruvAzhkkai new kudukkuriyA? :lol:
illeenga, "maduraippANdiyan-kuthiraippANdiyan" role is unnai nAn santhithEN (Sivakumar / Sujatha / Revathy / Suresh movie, Suresh/Revathy do the 'hEy I love you' on kuthirai vaNdi like MGR-Sarojadevi)Quote:
Originally Posted by SMI
Geethanjali is the one I was referring too.
Love interest is the lady who plays his wife in pagal nilavu
Manorama alwa movie is??
yEnyaa.. onakku konjamaavadhu eenam-maanam rOsam irukkaa
adhellam enkitta irukku. onkitta kozhambu irukkaa?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-PCS...feature=relmfu
No info on the first major combo, but good interview of Senthil in The Hindu
"it was the Goundamani- Senthil combination that made his popularity soar. ``A. Veerappan paved the way for our entry as a pair and penned dialogues for us.''
http://hindu.com/2001/06/08/stories/0908022a.htm
Senthil has carved a niche for himself as a comedian in Tamil cinema. SUDHA UMASHANKER profiles the actor.
SENTHIL, WHO represents good fun and a natural style of acting after twenty years in the film industry and many laughs, has captured a definite place in the hearts of moviegoers. Senthil entered the film industry after some solid training in the world of theatre. ``I did a lot of drama and used to act in the troupes in `Aiyya Theriyathayya' Rama Rao, K. Kannan, Isari Velan, A. Veerappan, Director Sundarrajan, etc., playing any kind of role small or big, and frequently filling in for co-actors who had taken ill or couldn't make it.''
He made plenty of friends in the cinema industry thanks to a lodge at T.Nagar (now converted into a commercial complex) where he used to stay, which was frequented by the likes of Parthiban, Bharathiraja and Ilaiyaraja, `Sangili' Murugan and others, and through them made a foray into the film circuit.
Senthil was not one of those who was rewarded with instant recognition in cinema. Success took its time. He made his debut in a Malayalam film ``Itti Karai Pakki'' with Prem Nazir (introduced by production manager Thoothukodi Ramachandran) and did several Tamil films like ``Pasi'', ``Poi Satchi'', ``Inru Poi Naalai Vaa'' and ``Vaidehi Kaathirinthaal'' before he got noticed. Other Tamil films ``Thooral Ninnu Pochu'' and ``Malaiyur Mambatiyan'' got him some attention, but it was the Goundamani- Senthil combination that made his popularity soar. ``A. Veerappan paved the way for our entry as a pair and penned dialogues for us.''
Senthil's naivete and foolishness often got Goundamani into some kind of spot. The ``vazhaipazha'' joke in the film ``Karagattakaran'' (with Senthil setting off to buy two bananas and polishing off one en route and trying every trick in the book to convince Goundamani that the one in hand was the other one he was asking for) became so popular across the State and is evergreen in the memory of Tamil film audiences. Or take the scene in C. Sundar's ``Azhagusami'' in which Senthil accompanies Goundamani to check out a prospective match for the latter and successfully spoils his chances. Other enjoyable interludes provided by the duo include the sequence in ``Vaidehi Kaathirunthal'' in which Goundamani advises a morose Senthil to buy some flowers and halwa and give it to the wife to patch up. More damage is created with Senthil not comprehending the instructions properly and offering them to Goundamani's wife.
There is good clean fun in ``Udayageetham'' too thanks to jailmates Senthil and Goundamani (Senthil being jailed for picking 50 paise from someone's pocket and Goundamani chiding him for setting his sights so low). This enthuses Senthil to take Goundamani's address just before being released and gain entry into his house to steal under the pretext of being a friend. As luck would have it the just released Goundamani spots Senthil on the platform and catches him redhanded happily selling all the former's belongings.
In true, Senthil- Goundamani style, Goundamani beats him up to his heart's content. It is to the credit of the pair that both came up with utterly natural, convincing and credible performances.
Says Senthil ``Goundamani and I are good friends. I know him from his drama days. He is very friendly but once he puts on make up he becomes totally involved in his work.''
And about working with Goundamani he observes ``We always made sure the audience will like what we do and perfected our scenes before the final take. We could easily tell if something would not go down well and raise laughs. And we would let the director know. During the course of the rehearsals we often came up with improvisations and finally it usually evolved into something good.''
Ask him to pick out one favourite comedy sequence from the many he has done and he is reluctant. ``I've done hundreds of films. I can't single out any one. It's like choosing a favourite child.''
As for the net tally of films (he has done films in Telugu, Kannada, Malayalam, and even a couple in Hindi. ``Phool Panayankara'', ``Insaniyat Ke Devatha'') he says, ``I have always been weak in Mathematics.''
Senthil respects the fact that the director is the key person in a film and says that nothing is done without the permission of the director and that the brief is never exceeded. However he says, when directors ask the duo to improvise they oblige.
How does he feel about being cast as a bumbling idiot most of time? ``This is only acting. Its all for the audience. Cinema is like a painting that emerges out of someone's imagination to entertain the audience and keeps them happy. Otherwise will you have a lead pair singing the opening lines of a song at home and dancing away to Ooty by the time it's the end of the pallavi? It is all fantasy.''
He sees comedy as a vital ingredient of a film. ``Comedy is like a sweet. On auspicious occasions and during celebrations sweets are always offered. We offer a unique flavour.''
``Dry jokes won't do. Even full length comedies will do well but there should be a sequence in the whole story.'' He is however of the view that comedy actors before him, like Thangavelu, NSK, Baliah, M. R. Radha and Nagesh were more learned and able to convey great thoughts. But given the length of films nowadays, hardly 13-14 reels, one can't do much. Films in those days ran into 22 reels.'' The Tamil language he feels lends itself well to comedy and adds that he speaks a mixture of all dialects - Tirunelveli, Ramanathapuram, Tiruchi, Salem and Coimbatore, to appeal to a wide cross section of people.''
He is currently working in ``Vivegam'' directed by actor Arjun and ``Love Pannunga'' with Livingston besides a couple of other films of director Manoj Kumar.
His goals in life are pretty much the same as that of many others. ``I want to educate my two sons well.'' And Senthil being Senthil adds ``I want to do cinema till the end and make people laugh.''
Maragadhaveenai, me thinks. Suresh, Revathy. Since Vaidehi was 3rd or 4th film for Revathy, this must be after Vaidehi, most likely.Quote:
Another movie, lean teacher Gounder louss Manorama. Bald Senthil is the go between who eats all the alwa that Gounder sends through him
konja nEram Achu purinjukka :lol:Quote:
Phool Panayankara''
#phool bane angaarey #gindhi padam #rajinigaandh
:clap: Year: 1986, so NPP is the obvious choiceQuote:
Originally Posted by Plum
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSAlZpQ1Ej4
Exactly my thoughts too. Remember the famous cycle wheel bendu edukaara scene... GM will be narrating something and out of the blue he will ask Senthil to pass on the the carrier to him and then he will place it far off from Senthil and then says "unnallam nambi vaikkamuidyaadhu"...Quote:
Originally Posted by P_R
First of all I can't imagine this being part of original script, something annan must have have improvised. If is after the petromax scene, then annan must have taken cue from it (remember.. vela... avaru kaala medhichiduvaaru scene), else, annan must have foreseen the what future holds for them as a pair and should have used the dialogue in advance... Either way, sheer genius.
Vanduruttan thaliya theriyatha.. wat a pity.. (now on mbl) PC'ku ponathum update'uran
Thanks all for the response to which is their first pairing.
Thanks SMI for the Sendhil interview. Looks like their working method indicate that the director has very little input.