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10th August 2005, 08:10 PM
abbydoss1969

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Dances with the wolves is not western! It is anti-western.
It is made from the Point of view of the native Americans. Traditional westerns are made from the Pov of white guys, trying to conquer the frontier, with the natives being the villians.

That's pleasantly surprising AND interesting.
Wish HW made war movies also without imposing the American viewpoint. We do have (anti)war movies like Platoon, but at worst they glorify American genocide and at best take into account only the Amercian cost of war, and not the costs of the victims

Even in Apocalypse Now, the story has just two view-points - that of the Americans and the French.

Hi,
There is an interesting story behing making of DWW,It was written as a novel by the author 15 years before the movie was made living in trailer vans etc.After he met, Kevin costner, he remade it into a screenplay and even with KC, it took more than ten years to find a producer because it was so unconventional.And it was not produced by the big studios, but by an independant producer.
That kind devotion is hard to find, here or in holly wood,
War movies generally made for jingoistic audiences, like Gadar, Border etc.
I have not seen Apocalypse Now, it is any better?
10th August 2005, 08:18 PM
abbydoss1969

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Originally Posted by ramsri

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Originally Posted by abbydoss1969

Dances with the wolves is not western! It is anti-western.
It is made from the Point of view of the native Americans. Traditional westerns are made from the Pov of white guys, trying to conquer the frontier, with the natives being the villians.

good point! that's exactly what makes the film a modern classic - the fact that it didn't fit into any of the subgenres or parodies of a western. in that sense, it was in a completely different mould, breaking away from the kind of steretypes that one associates with films of that genre. and one gets a sense of this central theme pretty early on in the film, when john dunbar (costner) is asked why he wants to be posted on the frontier, and he replies:

I want to see the West ... before it's gone! :thumbsup:

if you liked 'Dances', check out 'Open Range' another beautifully made western. this one has costner teaming up with robert duvall and annette bening.

BTW, what happened to Kevin Costner himself? This guy made couple of classics, like, DWW, Body gaurd, No place to run(?) etc,
After WAter world, he has disappeared.
10th August 2005, 08:28 PM
alwarpet_andavan

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Originally Posted by abbydoss1969

War movies generally made for jingoistic audiences, like Gadar, Border etc.
I have not seen Apocalypse Now, it is any better?

AN is more of a "personal" movie, in that it takes us into the mind of the character played by Marlon Brando.
The movie is set in the Vietnam war background but pushes the Vietnamese and later Cambodians into the background.
In that way, its neither jingoistic nor genuinely anti-war
10th August 2005, 08:29 PM
alwarpet_andavan

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Originally Posted by abbydoss1969

BTW, what happened to Kevin Costner himself? This guy made couple of classics, like, DWW, Body gaurd, No place to run(?) etc,
After WAter world, he has disappeared.

I'm not sure but i think he acted in a movie called Tin Cup.....
11th August 2005, 06:39 AM
NM

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No place to run
After WAter world, he has disappeared.

abbydoss, its No Way Out - the first KC movie I saw and fell in love with the man,.... :D :D
11th August 2005, 05:14 PM
ramsri

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Originally Posted by abbydoss1969

Hi,
There is an interesting story behing making of DWW,It was written as a novel by the author 15 years before the movie was made living in trailer vans etc.After he met, Kevin costner, he remade it into a screenplay and even with KC, it took more than ten years to find a producer because it was so unconventional.And it was not produced by the big studios, but by an independant producer.
That kind devotion is hard to find, here or in holly wood,

yeah ... costner actually started his own production company TIG productions, along with jim wilson of warner bros, to fund that movie. and it turned out to be a bonanza for them. among the top grossing films in a year that churned out monster hits like 'Home Alone' and 'Ghost'.
11th August 2005, 05:25 PM
ramsri

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Originally Posted by abbydoss1969

BTW, what happened to Kevin Costner himself? This guy made couple of classics, like, DWW, Body gaurd, No place to run(?) etc,
After WAter world, he has disappeared.

after 'Dances' costner's star continued to rise with films like 'The Bodyguard', 'JFK' (directed by oliver stone) and 'A Perfect World' (directed by clint eastwood). but yes, as you say, 'Waterworld' turned out to be his undoing. after that there was a series of forgettable flicks - 'Tin Cup' , 'The Postman', '3000 Miles to Graceland' (i think he co-starred with kurt russell in this one) etc. he made a partial comeback with 'Dragonfly' and 'Thirteen Days' a couple of years ago. then i think came 'Open Range' which he directed, and that got him back on track. last year's 'Upside of Anger' in which he stars with joan allen, is being tipped for the oscars and is regarded by critics as a complete return to form.

but if you really want the best of kevin costner, you should watch (apart from 'Dances', of course) 'Field of Dreams' and 'JFK' - sort of reminds you of what a versatile talent he once was (and still is, hopefully!).
14th August 2005, 07:25 AM
Sinthiya

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Originally Posted by ramsri

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Originally Posted by abbydoss1969

BTW, what happened to Kevin Costner himself? This guy made couple of classics, like, DWW, Body gaurd, No place to run(?) etc,
After WAter world, he has disappeared.

after 'Dances' costner's star continued to rise with films like 'The Bodyguard', 'JFK' (directed by oliver stone) and 'A Perfect World' (directed by clint eastwood). but yes, as you say, 'Waterworld' turned out to be his undoing. after that there was a series of forgettable flicks - 'Tin Cup' , 'The Postman', '3000 Miles to Graceland' (i think he co-starred with kurt russell in this one) etc. he made a partial comeback with 'Dragonfly' and 'Thirteen Days' a couple of years ago. then i think came 'Open Range' which he directed, and that got him back on track. last year's 'Upside of Anger' in which he stars with joan allen, is being tipped for the oscars and is regarded by critics as a complete return to form.

but if you really want the best of kevin costner, you should watch (apart from 'Dances', of course) 'Field of Dreams' and 'JFK' - sort of reminds you of what a versatile talent he once was (and still is, hopefully!).

Field of Dreams is a great movie, especially you're a baseball fan.
14th August 2005, 08:14 PM
abbydoss1969

There is a movie called "Bull Durham" or Bill Dirham by KC, isn't there? :cry:
15th August 2005, 04:48 AM
Querida

you're very right Abbydoss :D was it any good?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094812/

i really like 3000 miles to graceland :) especially that bit with Jon Lovitz :lol: DWW was beautiful...

From the few Tom Hanks movies i've watched i liked Forrest Gump, Green Mile, Cast Away :D

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