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I think this statement is absolutely ridiculous!!! He brings out the best of all the technicians. Infact Madhavan's best performances are from MAni's movies only(Alaipayuthe, KM, AE.....). The only thing with Mani is that ,as far as I know, the technicians (including the lead actors) are paid only half of their regular salary for a movie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nerd
I am slightly going to tread controversial terrirtory here.
Madhavan. Made to look different more becoz of Kamal's two movies than Mani's movies.(Anbe Sivam and Nala Damayanthi)
Mani as a last ditch effort begged Madhavan to do the negative role in AE , a role which vikram had earlier turned down. Though Madhavan projected himself with sincerity, Mani made a hash out of that role. His character , one felt was unnecessarily unrepenting, needlessly violent - with no bloody justification. Contrast a similar character from RGV's Sathya or Company. The characters' other side was clearly shown. here madhavan's character was neither a tireless assassin like Terminator nor a gangster with a tender underbelly like sathya. a result is confusion. I wouldn't do such analysis for other director's movies. For someone who is hyped on sensitivity and sensibility - this was a clear letdown . When I say he exploited ARR, again I have to take AE or yuva as an example. The character of Arjun Balakrishnan played by Siddarth and Vivek was one introduced purely to bring ARR's songs into the equation. If you remove that stupid character from the picture you dont lose anything from the script apart from couple of chartbusters from ARR, couple more reasons to sell more Yuva Albums. What did ARR gain by that? He was at that time gasping for more time to do international assignments and had to reduce his involvement in Kisna, which in my opinion would have given him a full super hit if he had been involved fully instead of the dumb Ismail Durbar keeping his left leg in that project. Yuva or AE could have been easily scored by VS or JS or some one else from ARR's school itself. Instead Mani exploited ARR's valuable time on a project that was going on a superfast speed to the dust bin right out of script writer's writing pad. Even now I feel pity that ARR has signed on Guru a movie that can be done without songs with some other music director. ARR's flair is grand musicals and that is not Mani's cup of tea. If Mani had sincerely hoped that ARR is a value add and he should use him poperly then the script should be such. Recently Mani told the world that he wouldn't want to work with Kamal with any other script as he wanted only a script >= Nayagan. I guess, if he doesn't exploit ARR, he would have applied the same logic. Give ARR a script >= Rangeela (musically speaking, not cinematic) then let him collaborate and then I will happily take back my comments. As far as ppl saying Mani is fed up with working in hero centric Kollywood, that reminds me of "sour grapes". He knows what he says doesn't sell as he has ppl like Maddy(actor - not hubber) who is happy to do any role given by him and also Surya (again not hubber). Fact is nowadays actors in Kollywood want either a strong , different character or atleast image boosting fan pleasing heroism. Rendum kettaan stories may be appropriate for Hindi and perhaps that is what Mani is aiming at - Rendum Kettaan.
I started hating Mani right from the moment I saw ET. How dare he visualize a mentally challenged kid like an extra terrestrial which provides amusement to other children. What a perverse visualization that breaks all sensitivity B***S**t angle about Mani's stories. Sorry if any MR fan breaks down crying after reading this post.
jaiganes, u r a surprise to mani's fans just like i'am to kamal fans.....tell u wat even we never thought ARRahman was exploited....guud dimension shown.../..
but i will disagree on Maddy's point.....Madhavan looked the best in alaipauthey and it was infact his ara-loosu role in anbe sivam that dug his grave and we now see no Maddy (xcept in hub :wink: ).......moreover, the same role has transformed Abhishek bachan from a zero to amitabh bacchan in bollywood....wat do u say for that....
reg anjali i have read in cinema xpress mag long back that Mani initially wanted to remake ET........but could not do it and he ended with a rendum kettan movie called anjali......
I agree with u wholly, Jaiganesh ! I always felt that Mani- Maddy term is quite like KB-Kamal (am not placing them at the same pedestal as the latter) ....But Kamal also was somwhat exploited , whereas he got excellent offers from Bharathiraja, K.Viswanath et al., ...Quote:
Originally Posted by jaiganes
Maddy should seriously avoid Mani atleast henceforth ! ....
U r indeed a surprise :rotfl: ..... no wonder u find anbarasan as an ara-loosu .... U would b the only one to say this ! ....Quote:
Originally Posted by MADDY
Alaipaayuthey was ok ... But it was the rest of Mani films that actually dug Maddy's grave .... :cry: ... BTW, I feel Maddy "looked" his best in Minnale
Actually I did the opposite (:rotfl:)Quote:
Sorry if any MR fan breaks down crying after reading this post.
AE gave ARR a hit which he was craving for in TFM!! No one ever can extract best music out of ARR other than MR. BR to a certain extent though. MR is materialistic in the success of ARR and vice versa and I dont see any exploitation here..
Maddy, common his best two roles so far were from MR movies.. AP and KM.. He was good in AS too but that ara-llosu thing comes in ND.. where he spoilt his image..
Also I dint see any pervesions in anjali. Thats one of the best movies ever made in TF.. I dint find that thing amusing at all.. Also the movie won international acclaims and was even sent for the oscars
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Originally Posted by jaiganes
You say that AE doesn't have a good script, the characterization is pathetic........ It is acceptable to some extent. But to say that Yuva or AE could've been scored by VS or JS is a bit 2 much. Not that they don't have talent, but we as ARR fans expect something extraordinary everytime thery combine & that 2MR does movies every 2 years and if even that is scored by ARR it will be 2 harsh on us. If AE wasn't done by ARR we wuld've had only 1 album (NEW) that year. :(
ansa! the point that I am trying to make is that AE could have been scored by JS, while ARR could have worked with somebody like Cheran or SelvaRaghavan or better yet, Bala. Even a Murugadoss could have provided ample scope for him to work in a movie with good songs + BGM opportunities. If he works for MR, he will get underpaid to do songs that have the burden of propping up the whole movie, which is what eventually happened to AE or Yuva or Kannathil Muthamittaal. With the products MR has been churning out post Roja, the subjects are as dry as they come and presented in ever more confusing and dry way. Probably it is time for him to retire and visit film festivals around the world as judge.
ARR needs someone who can tap the other side of his music potential. and I am 200 % sure thats not Mani.
the best movies Maddy was offered were Anbe sivam and ND (going by the scope he was offered to perform). Alaipayuthey was ok, in the sense it utilised his charm & looks well. Then Gowtham's Minnale did it too, better than AP . 8-)
:::ARR needs someone who can tap the other side of his music potential. and I am 200 % sure thats not Mani.:::
If not Mani then no one in the WORLD could bring the best out of ARR & do max justice to him in songs picturisation or BGM's. Many would mutually agree & ARR himself admitted it in several interviews.
:::somebody like Cheran or SelvaRaghavan or better yet, Bala. Even a Murugadoss:::
:SHOCK: This has been around for sometime and surprised to hear from JaiG back again. Any collectively formed motive?
One gentleman's quote:
Still :rotfl:Quote:
.........Selvaraghavan = 3/3 success rate which MR can't afford
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I have observed & would like to highlight some interesting picturisations in Dol Dol rap song where he kinda fast fwd the forthcoming scenes (thats how screenplay's gels - maddy's gas cylinder business & the van passing college students, kidnapping female contestants brother etc) in a very very innovative way. But pointless mentioning here