Astrological Knowledge for better and meaningful life

pradheep wrote:

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Astrology is based on a pure science of experimentation, observation and inference of the fact that human life has similar pattern as the movements of planets.

This means that by observing the movements of planets we can predict information about human life, because the ancient masters have seen the truth that, as is the human body so is the cosmic body

(Yatha pindae thatha brahmandae).

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See!! astrology simply is "Human centric"!!

It pre-determines that "Human" are "special" beings of the cosmos!!! :lol:

Astrology - cannot "accept" extra-terrestrial intelligence - since it is a "Homo Sapien" specific "pseudo-science"!!

Can anyone deny this Fact?! :)

Astrology doesnt even say it can "predict" the Life and "fate" of other creatures like animals et al which live on earth!

would an astrologer go inside a Lion cage in a zoo and "predict" if it would eat him or not?! :lol: :lol:

This kind of "special status" to Homo-sapiens is the very basis of this astrology mumbo-jumbo!

AND WE KNOW FOR FACT - that Humans simply came thru evolution and we r not any kind of "spcially" created beings in cosmos.

There would be different kinds of beings in a future millennia effected thru evolution.

And our scientists proposes - that, theoretically - there must be ATLEAST 10 to 100 million "intelligent beings" living planets - just in our Milky way galaxy, which has roughly 100 billion stars!!

We are not alone even in our galaxy!

Cosmos!!!!!

oh puleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!

gimme a break dudes!!!!! :lol: :lol:

You people sure waste too much time machis. :(

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Astrology doesnt even say it can "predict" the Life and "fate" of other creatures like animals et al which live on earth!

would an astrologer go inside a Lion cage in a zoo and "predict" if it would eat him or not?!

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I did not say astrology holds good only to humans, it holds good for evey being in this cosmos. Even to learn about one own's self takes a life time and where is the time for other beings?.

Who denied evolution?. Vedic literature is clear about human evolution. Humans are just as important as other beings of this universe, but vedas claim humans as special because of his ability to enquire and understand the truth. That is why upanishads are not "preaching" books of dogmas. it is a scientific enquiry of questioning and answering. Interestingly the dialgue is not between uneducated individuals but between educated father and son, teacher and student, husband and wife and so on.

If someone looked at vedic literature as meaningless praise of some gods and goddesses and their fights and sex and cheatings, then those people are no different from my four year old son who considers reading my Biochemistry Text book nothing but jumbled alphabets , while his alphabet book is highly ordered and strucured and has some meaning.

Gosh Guys!!!!! :x Where is TORCHBEARER????? Didn't he start this thread?????? Not one word in his own defence????? Mmmm.... :roll:

Guys, nothing is pure black or white. Remember katradhu kai mann alavu, kallaathathu ulagalavu. Why take a stance on something we don't know for sure? Many superstitions of yesterday have become science today.

Don't brush off everything that does not appeal your logical mind. There is a chance that your mind itself is incapable of analysing deeply yet.

Give everyone a chance to speak their mind. Do not draw conclusions based on your personal experiences. Above all, don't let emotions control you.

Hi!

Wow? Lot of people know about Astrology, but sadly many know it only in bad perspective.

Meaning of [b]Science is "systematic and formulated knowledge or organized body of knowledge that has been accumulated on a subject" etc....



In today's world a person's notion is that Science only means that which can be proved in Laboratory with the help of test-tubes, microscopes and with trial and error method.
out-side the lab science means which can be seen and detected by telescope and few gadgets.

Of course science is a wonderful thing and doing great thing for the betterment of mankind, but materialistically.

How much material is needed for mankind no one knows not even Scientist.
basically this material generation and scientific knowledge is good to satisfy human needs and wants, but to what extent no one knows not even Scientist.
ONLY THIS IS CALLED SCIENCE !!!!!!!
:shock:
ONLY WHEN YOU CAN FEEL ANY MATERIAL, USE AND THROW MATERIAL AND CRY AND GET DISTURBED WHEN YOU DON'T GET THAT MATERIAL
ONLY THIS IS CALLED SCIENCE !!!!!!!
:shock:

A scientific discovery takes place and it is inducted into school and college books.
and when that scientific discovery is contradicted by another scientist, it means all these years those poor students were taken for a ride.where has all systematic and formulated knowledge gone?
In the name of improvement the real guinea pigs are human beings who have brains to get liberated from all these but instead prefer becoming guinea pigs.

There were really very Great scientist like Einstein and Newton to name a few who have really gone beyond science.

Now whether Astrology is a Science or not?

Of course it is Science.
It is very Sensitive and Subtle Science.
It cannot be proved in Laboratory or by Gadgets.

Suppose if you cannot prove an acid or alkali in a Laboratory then will you call science or the experiment you are conducting as false or superstitious?

NO! because the mistake lies either
1) with you in conducting the experiment or
2) with the solution in burette or
3) with the reagent or
4) with the indicator or
5) the apparatus may not be properly washed or
6) there may be printing mistake in your journal.
or some other reason you better know. You don't simply walk out from Lab saying that is all fraud, false,superstitious or the scientist has cheated us.

Regarding the fraud Astrologers, there are many people who taken undue advantage of scientific discoveries, then do you call science because of this as false and superstition.



BELIEVING IS SUPPORTING, AS ALL SCIENTIFIC DISCOVERIES AND INVENTIONS HAVE BEEN MADE ONLY AFTER ASSUMING AND BELIEVING IN THEM.

a time will come where we Indians will start believing it when the others start using it, but then it will be too late, as it has been in the case of Ayurveda where they have started patenting it.



Astrology is a FACT and Applied science, everything has been written down by Indian Sages thousands of years ago not by test tubes, microscopes or gadgets or by trial and error BUT BY PURE INSIGHT.

Torchbearer,

There are so many fake astrologers now a days that today Astrology has become synonimous with fake. So research and study needs to be done on astrology for it to be grown as a diciplined subject. We can hope students like you and researchers work towards diciplining this subject. After all lot of theories and documents are there. First thing to do would be to understand and organize them to a disiplined subject.

Anyway you didnt reply to Nirosha. Is it possible to give some general characteristics of a person based on his time of birth. Then again my query about whether location matters as per astrology.

Mr. Torchbearer,

TWINS... BORN WITH... "IDENTICAL HOROSCOPES"

I wonder on my practical observation on several cases that the Qualities of the TWIN-BORN are vast different...!

... despite both the Horoscopes.... IDENTICAL ! !

HOW?.... such a strange phenomena... can occur ?

Will you please CLARIFY?

Torchbearer,

If 'guru' is in neecha, does it have good aspect over 5,7,9? It is in neecha both in raasi and navamsam.

Twins are not born with the exact horoscope..
they are seconds a part( time between first and second birth) and in those seconds their horoscopes can differ...

Its all about time...