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I reconfirm this etymology. Dravidian words are appropriated by the Sanskritists, mutilated and claimed to be their own. Sanskritists put out bogus etymology for Tamil words and then lodge claims.Quote:
Originally Posted by bis_mala
Similarly vEtham and upanishad are also formed from Dravidian roots.
Vetham as well as Upanishad (upaneyavu) are Tamil words from Tamil roots. Reconfirmed.
Sivamalaji
I want to know whether words like "yagam","homam","smriti","sruthi" are also from Tamil.
Since Vedas and Upanishads are from Thamizh, do you think philosophy contained in Vedas and Upanishads were originally from Thamiz Nadu?
Vedas is believed to have come directly from Lord Shiva and just compiled together by Veda Vyasar.
What about the names "Rig", "Yajur","Sama" and "atharva"?do they have roots in Tamil?
viggopji,
Á¢ÆüÚ¾ø is a word which means "to say";. mizaRRu-tal in current usage means 1. to prattle, as a child; 2. to speak softly. The basic idea in the word is to make a sound with your tongue and lips. Whenever a root is appropriated for the formulation of another word, the fine shades of meanings in the root are usually set aside.
If you examine the word closely, you will notice that it is in the "piRavinai" form. The "thanvinai" of that form is "mizaRu" which may be retrieved from mizaRRu.
Smiruthi is formed in the following manner with the above word.
Á¢ÆÚ (Á¢ÆüÚ) > Á¢Õ > Á¢Õ+¾¢ (suffix) > Á¢Õ¾¢ > ŠÁ¢Õ¾¢.
compare: ¾¢Èõ > ¾¢Ãõ > Š¾¢Ãõ.
suruthi is formed from the Tamil root: suraththal.
ÍÃ > ÍÃò¾ø. (¿£÷ ÍÃò¾ø; ´Ä¢ ÍÃò¾ø.)
ÍÃ > ÍÃ+¾¢ = ÍÕ¾¢. (ÍÃ>ÍÕ).
Will return with other words.
The word upanishad has been variously analysed and interpreted to mean sitting down near by some Sanskritists and as 'to loosen.,' 'to reach' or 'to destroy' with Upa and ni as prefixes and kvip as termination. As interpretations vary, it is clear that the Skrtists are not sure of the derivation or not entirely satisfied with their own interpretations.
In all teaching sessions, the pupils must be near as they did not have loudspeakers then. They sat for obvious reason. It is not something peculiar to teaching of upanishad alone. Thus Sanskrit etymologies are unfit. The proper etymology of the word is from Tamil.
Sayanaachaaria in 14c ACE reduced them to writing. Otherwise these compos were floating around orally. The name "upanishad" was given to the varied collections probably at the time.
yaagam is derived from Samskrith root `yaj` means to sacrifice.Quote:
I want to know whether words like "yagam","homam","smriti","sruthi" are also from Tamil.
Since Vedas and Upanishads are from Thamizh, do you think philosophy contained in Vedas and Upanishads were originally from Thamiz Nadu?
Vedas is believed to have come directly from Lord Shiva and just compiled together by Veda Vyasar.
What about the names "Rig", "Yajur","Sama" and "atharva"?do they have roots in Tamil?
homam is also Samskrith from `juh` means offer to fire.
smrthi(memory) is again from Samskrith meaning taken out from memories of learned men(it consists of 18 rishis teaching dharma shastra from their memories from the past scripture).
Shruthi means `heard ones`it`s root is `sru` meaning to hear. these have been the sacred teachings of rishis regarding the daily routines of human beings and their duties, which they have heard from Brahma Deva.
Now secondly, vedas and upanishads are not tamil as said above but pure Samskrith. veda`s root is vid meaning knowledge and upanishad`s root is shad. Neither vedas nor upanishads deal with the philosophical teachings of tamil nadu but both are from ancient times even before tamil was formed(as the mention of vedas is present in tamil because vedas existed before tamil, but can anyone quote any statement regarding the word tamil in either vedas or upanishads?)
Vedas are not from Lord Shiva but from Lord Brahma praising paramatman( the supreme being) from each of his face. the east sided face chanted rg veda, north yajur veda, west sama veda and south atharvana veda. These were learnt by the saptarshis and celestial beings in a whole,and passed on according to guru-shishya parampara(no mention of vedas being written has been made until recent times that is 200bc) but due to the advent of kali eon, people fell short of memory, so, Veda Vyasa divided(not compiled) the vedas again into 4 parts.
Rg veda : root `ruk` meaning chant and `vid`meaning knowledge, so it in total means the knowledge of chants.
Yajur veda: root, remember yaj, from yaagam? same root, this veda deals completely with the knowledge of sacrifices known as yaagas.
Sama veda: meaning the knowledge or science of music which contains the most ancient ragas known as samas.
Atharvana veda: dealing with the science of supernaturals or in easy words magic, wizardry and vashikarana sort of mantras.
and lastly some people read only half the meanings of words. there has never been in ancient times a quarrel amongst Samskrith scholars regarding upanishad, the real meaning given universally is `Upanishad' is derived by adding the prefixes `upa' (near) and `ni'
(with certainty) and the suffix `kvip' to the root `sad' meaning ` to destroy, to go to and
to loosen'. By the word 'Upanishad' is meant the knowledge that destroys the seeds of worldly existence such as ignorance in the case of those seekers of liberation who, after cultivating detachment towards all enjoyments, approach (upa,sad) this knowledge and
then deliberate on it with steadiness and certainty (ni).
So any more doubts, ask me, well if you want the correct meanings. bye.
It is not the question of being bitter of anything, but, though this being a tamil forum, people use mostly engish over here. If language means so important, then why do more than 3/4th in this forum use english?Quote:
þÐ ¾Á¢ú Ţš¾ þ¨Æ. ±É§Å ¾Á¢Æ¢ø Ţš¾í¸û «¨Áŧ¾ ¦À¡Õò¾õ. §¾Åɸ¢Ã¢Â¢ø Ţš¾õ ¦ºö ŢÕõÀ¢É¡ø, ºÁ¢Š¸¢Õ¾/†¢ó¾¢ ¨ÁÂí¸ÙìÌî ¦ºøÄ×õ. This is the reason why many tamilians still feel bitter about the dominance and imposition of a certain language.
«÷ (¾Á¢ú) = ´Ä¢.
This root has been explained by several researchers/
«÷ > «ÃüÚ >«ÃüÚ¾ø.
«÷ > «ÃðÎ > «Ãðξø.
«÷ > «ÃðÎ > «¾ðÎ >«¾ðξø.
There are other words from this root.
(«)Ãü(Ú) > âü > âì. ( º¡Á¢Â¡Ê¸û ±ØôÒõ ´Ä¢¸Ç¢ý §¸¡¨Å¡¸¢Â Ã¢ì §Å¾õ.) chantings.
Ã¢ì ±ýÀÐ ¾¨ÄÔõ Å¡Öõ §À¡É ¾Á¢ú¡øÄ¢ý ¾¢Ã¢Ò.
¸Á¢ø ÍÅÄÀ¢ø 500 ¾Á¢úî ¦º¡ü¸û Ã¢ì §Å¾ò¾¢ø ¯ûÇÉ ±ýÚ ¸ñÎÀ¢Êò¾¡÷. À¡Å¡½÷ 800ìÌõ §ÁüÀð¼¨Å ±ýÚ §ÁÖõ ¸ñ¼È¢ó¾¡÷.
ħ¸¡Åâ¢ý ¬ö×ôÀÊ «ÃüÚ¸¾ò¾¢Öõ (âì) ºí¸¾ò¾¢Öõ (ºÁò¸¢Õ¾) 2/3 ÀíÌ ¾¢Ã¡Å¢¼ ÁüÚõ Óñ¼¡ ¦Á¡Æ¢¸ÙìÌâ ¦º¡ü¸û ±ýÚ ¬öóШÃòÐûÇ¡÷.
¬ö×Өȸû «È¢Â¡¾Å÷¸û ¬Â¢Ãõ ¬ñθÙìÌÓý ÜȢ ÅÆ¢ô§À¡ìÌ ¬ö׸¨Ç Á£ñÎÓ¨ÃôÀ¾¢ø ±ýÉ ÀÂý!!
¿¨¸ôÀ¾üÌò¾¡ý ºÃ¢ôÀÎõ.
¦¾¡¼Õõ.
Hi Shoyonika, since Tamil lit clearly states what it wants to state, we can discuss the intellectual content of it any language, this is a definitive advantage of Tamil over sanskrit, sanskrit requires a great degree of fabrication/reverse engineering to derive something sensible. Since such fabrications in sanskrit often uses the inefficiencies of the language it makes sense to treat sanskrit lit in sanskrit only.Quote:
It is not the question of being bitter of anything, but, though this being a tamil forum, people use mostly engish over here. If language means so important, then why do more than 3/4th in this forum use english?
¡¸õ ±ýÀÐõ ¾Á¢ú¡ø¾¡ý. ¡ò¾ø = ¸ðξø. Áó¾¢Ãò¾¢É¡ø ¸ðÎÅÐ ±ýÛõ ÅÆìÌ þýÚŨà ¯ûÇÐ. ¸Â¢Ú ¸ðÊ즸¡ûÅÐ, ¸¡ôÒì ¸ðÊ즸¡ûÅРӾĢ ÅÆì̸¨ÇÔõ §¿¡ì̸.
¡ > ¡+Ì+«õ > ¡¸õ.
ƒ¤÷ ±ýÈ ¦º¡ø §ÅÚ. ÌÆôÀ§Åñ¼¡õ. ƒ¤÷ ±ýÀÐ ®Ã¡É¢Â ÅÆìÌî ¦º¡ø ±ýÚ º¢Ä÷ ÜÚ¸¢ýÈÉ÷. þ¨¾ô À¢ýÒ ¸ÅÉ¢ô§À¡õ.
¡õ ±ÎòШÃò¾ À¢È¦º¡ü¸¨ÇÔõ ¯Ú¾¢¦ºö¸¢§È¡õ. §¾ÔÀ¡¨¼ þÈóÐŢ𼠿¢¨Ä¢ø, §¾ÅÀ¡¨¼ ±ý¦È¡Õ À¡¨¼ (language ) þø¨Ä
¦¾¡¼Õõ..
shoyonika
Thanks for explaining from the Sanskrit angle.I welcome both yours and Sivamala's views too.Ultimately, i get to learn lot of things from both of you! :-)
In the Rig Veda, atleast the Gayathri Mantram is supposed to have come from Rishi Vishwamithra.It is he who is supposed to have got the gayathri manthram and it is part of Rig Veda.
So, maybe the rishis added their views to Brahma's veda?
also, the yajur veda is supposed to have 2 parts --krishna yajur and another part composed by a rishi.I too have heard is it ritual oriented.
Sivamalaji
Thanks for your explanation too.Will ask you more questions when i have doubts :-)
Viggopji, thank you and best regards.
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homam: The Sans root `juh` allegedly meaning "offer to fire". is fabricated from thamiz "°ú" (verb).
°ú (verb) > °úò¾ø = pouring as for example pouring onto fire. (one of the meanings of this word).
°ú (¾Á¢ú) > ƒ¤ (ºÁò¸¢Õ¾õ).
°ú/°üÚ ±ýÀÉ ´§Ã ãÄòÐî ¦º¡ü¸û. Would not digress into that.
compare: ¯Â¢÷ > ¢÷ > ƒ¢ù (>ƒ£Åý).
ºÁò¸¢Õ¾õ ±ÎòÐ즸¡ñ¼ Àøġ¢Ãõ ¾¢Ã¡Å¢¼î ¦º¡ü¸Ç¢ø °ú ±ýÀÐõ ´ýÚ.
°ú > (°{ú}Áõ) > µÁõ > §†¡Á¡ (Skrt).
casting clarified butter into the fire.
compare: À¡ú > (À¡{ú}Åõ) > À¡Åõ.
Brahman pre-existed the Vedas (per Gilbert Slater) and similar god has been found in Egyptian culture. But the word Brahman is from À¢È(/Ã)+õ+«ý or ÀÃ+õ+«ý. Ancient Egypt had trade relationships with Tamiz states.
Shoyonika,Quote:
Originally Posted by shoyonika
you know that some ilks here are just like Frogs in well. Frogs in a well think that their well is the deepest and its croaking sound is the sweetest in the world. Little they realize what lies outside. Thats what is being done here....
And Indianxxxx is the biggest frog of all :lol: :lol: :lol:
:rotfl:
To confirm that "homa" is a Dravidian word from Tamil root:
1. Sans is/was an Indo-Euro language. 1/3 of its lexical base is clearly Indo-Euro in origin. (proven fact.) 2/3 of it: Dravidian largely, Munda and other lingos too. (proven fact).
2. Homa has no Indo-European homonym.
3. It can be directly connected to the Tamil word uuzththal. (as shown above). (using rules on word corruption patterns and rules on interchangeability between Dravidian and Indo-Euro).
4. The basic meaning ("casting" (clarified butter into fire) of the words: is strikingly similar between roots °(úò¾ø) and juh.
5. To me, the homa practice does not seem to be Indo-Euro in origin. There is practice of casting things into fire as a ritual in Chinese taoism. More research may be needed on this speicific point.
The Chinese word "uu" "°" means "present" or "have" and is a Íð¼Êî ¦º¡ø (demonstrative) and has a meaning similar to Tamil "uL" ¯û (¯ûÇÐ). A remote connection cannot be ruled out on the etymology of these two words °ú(ò¾ø) and Chinese °. I will conclude that homa is not Indo-Euro practice unless I come across further evidence later.
6. Homa < µÁõ is therefore a Tamil word.
Hi mahadevan, nice try but without any luck. Samskrith never requires any advantage over tamil to prove its supremacy, or dominance over roots and words. Fabrications are used by recent languages to just try to compare themselves with Samskrith, in which they have lost the true meaning they want to convey. Samskrith is so dignified that no need has of late been found to reverse engineer anything to form a word or to discuss anything intellectual. Samskrith, and use words from other languages, for that you need to be given a 1st prize in joking. Lastly there is no need of definitive advantages for a language whose writing and word expression itself is incomplete. Just try to write the word Samskrith as it is pronounced in tamil and you can yourself find its so called efficiency against Samskrith.Quote:
Hi Shoyonika, since Tamil lit clearly states what it wants to state, we can discuss the intellectual content of it any language, this is a definitive advantage of Tamil over sanskrit, sanskrit requires a great degree of fabrication/reverse engineering to derive something sensible. Since such fabrications in sanskrit often uses the inefficiencies of the language it makes sense to treat sanskrit lit in sanskrit only.
Inian is right!! There were many who saw the truth......Quote:
Originally Posted by inian
They (Sanskritists ) had no name for the religion. The Iranians gave the name!
They (Sanskritists ) had no name for their holy books. The Tamils gave the names.
Such is the plight of the frogs in the well.
That explains the plight of people saying Samskrith is derived from Irani or persian. :lol:
Easiest thing to escape is if you cannot prove tamil older, just say Samskrith is a derivative of persian. But they are not even of the same grammatical setup. Irani or farsi or persian is just the language branch of Indo european language, whereas Samskrith is the head for all the Indo-european language, though has a number of, needs no proofs.
What about Bharatha`s religion`s name? well even a small boy with minimum knowledge would tell the reason for it. There was no need for a religion until the advent of the westerners as the people lived peacefully following Varnashrama systems, and the name if required would be given Vedic religion. So, name of religion was needed only to distinguish between Bharathiyas and pashchatyas. Now what was that about tamil names for Samskrith works? :lol: try to find tamil roots for manimekhalai and silpadhikaram, as joining diphthongs as ai in the end wont tamilise Samskrith.
Lastly people are becoming cultured using Samskrith phrases like frog in the well that is, `koopa manduka`. Sorry for puncturing feelings. Better luck next time.
«¾÷(¾Á¢ú) = ¦¿È¢, ÅÆ¢ ±ýÀÐ ¦À¡Õû.
«¾÷ + Å(ñ)½õ = «¾÷Žõ, ¦¿È¢Ó¨È¸¨Çì ÜÚõ §Å¾õ ±ýÀÐ.
Áó¾¢Ãí¸Ç¡ø §¿¡ö ¿£ì̾ø, ÁüÈ ¾£Â¨Å¸¨Çì ¸ðÎôÀÎò¾ø ӾĢÂÅüÚì¸¡É ¦¿È¢¸¨Çì ÜÚÅÐ.
þ¾¢ø ÅÕõ takman ±ýÈ ¦º¡ø ¾Á¢ú "¾ÎÁý" ±ýÀ¾ý żÅÊÅõ.
±É§Å «¾÷Ž ±ýÀÐõ ¾Á¢Æ¢Ä¢ÕóÐ ¸¼ý¦ÀüÈ ¦º¡ø ±ýÀÐ ¦¾Ç¢×.
Chinese for present is `iu` and not uu.
:rotfl:Quote:
Originally Posted by shoyonika
The earliest inscription in Sanskrit is by the Saka Mahakshatrapa Rudradaman at Junagarh in Gujarat dated to AD 150.
That's how old this stateless, scriptless, speechless Sans is!! :hammer:
þô§À¡Ð ¸ñÎÀ¢ÊòÐÅ¢ð§¼ý.....§º¨Ä ¸ðÊ즸¡ñÎ, Åí¸¡Çô ¦Àñ¨½ô§À¡ø Åó¾ þó¾ ¬¼Å÷ ¡¦ÃýÚ.......
¾Á¢ú ¿ýÈ¡¸ «È¢ó¾Å÷... º¢í¸ôââĢÕôÀÅ÷!! :rotfl:
À¡Å¡¨¼¾¡Åɢ¢ø À¡÷ò¾ ¯ÕÅÁ¡ ?
þÐ âÅ¡¨¼ Å£º¢ ÅÕõ âò¾ ÀÕÅÁ¡ ? :rotfl:
ÁÂì¸ò¨¾ò ¾ó¾Åý ¡ÃÊ
Á½Á¸ý ¡¦ÃýÚ ÜÈÊ !! :)
---±ý¦ÈøÄ¡õ À¡ÊÅ¢ÎÅ£÷¸û §À¡Ä¢Õ츢ȧ¾!! «ôÀʦÂøÄ¡õ ´ýÚÁ¢ø¨Ä.
«ñ¨Á¢ø ¿¡ý þùÅ¢¨½Âò¾¢ø þ¨½ó¾À¢ýÒ «È¢Ó¸Á¡ÉÅ÷¾¡ý.
À¢û¨ÇÌðÊì ¸¡Ã÷, À¡Åõ!! :rotfl:
¬ö׸û ¬ÆÁ¡¸î ¦ºøħÅñÎõ ±ýÛõ §¿¡ì¸¢ø ¸¢ñÊŢθ¢È¡÷....
«Å÷ ¦À¨à þô§À¡Ð ¬Ã¡ö§Å¡õ!! :lol:
ºÂÉõ = º¡ö (root) +«Éõ (suffix). º¡ÂÉõ ±ýÚ ÅáÁø ºÂÉõ ±ýÚ ÌÚ¸¢ÂÐ. àí̾ø ±ýÚ ¦À¡Õû. º¡ö = º¡öóÐ àí̾ø.
þôÀÊî ¦º¡ø ÌÚÌžüÌ µ÷ ¯¾¡Ã½õ:
º¡× + «õ = ºÅõ (º¡Åõ ±ýÚ ÅáРºÅõ ±ýÚ Åó¾Ð).
ÜõÒ + «õ = ÌõÀõ ±ýÀЧÀ¡ø ÀÄ ¦º¡ü¸û.
º¢Ä ҽâÂø Å¢¾¢¸û ¦º¡øÄ¡ì¸ò¾¢ø ¸¨¼ôÀ¢Êì¸ôÀðÊÄ «øÄÐ þ¨Å ¦¿ÊøӾġöô À¢ÈóÐ À¢ýÒ ÌÚ¸¢É ±ýÚõ ÜÈ¢Ûõ ´ýÚ¾¡ý.....
ºÂÉõ>ºÂÉý>ºÂÉ¢¨¸.
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þó¾ Ò¾¢ÕìÌ Å¢¨¼ ¸ñÎÀ¢Êò¾ü¸¡¸ ¯í¸ÙìÌ þó¾ À¡¼ø Àâ͸û! :D
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I have a story about this. Here it goes:Quote:
In the Rig Veda, atleast the Gayathri Mantram is supposed to have come from Rishi Vishwamithra.It is he who is supposed to have got the gayathri manthram and it is part of Rig Veda.
So, maybe the rishis added their views to Brahma's veda?
Vishwamitra wanted the Brahmarshi position which was in hands of Vashista Rshi. He meditated, performed sacrifices but was not in that line after doing all these for about 20 thousand years. Sage Vashista was the kulguru of the Ikshvaku clan.
As the story goes, Vishwamitra was travelling in forests to find a place suitable for penance. At that time, a Brahmarakshasa was travelling very hungrily in the same forest. Seeing Vishwamitra, the rakshasa was about to pounce on him and eat him, but the light in Vishwamitra`s face stopped him. Instead he started begging Vishwamitra for food.
Now Vishwamitra, who had something in his mind to overthrow Vashista from Brahmarshi position, put forth a pact in front of the demon. He stated that the demon,if he worked for Vishwamitra once, will be fed with 100 people. The demon agreed the pact.
Vishwamitra now dressed the demon as a cook to King Satyavrata`s kitchen with the instructions he needed to perform. The demon-cook went to the king and introduced himself as a cook with great culinary expertise. The king appointed him as a cook as soon as he savoured the food prepared by the demo-cook.
Now came the major plan. According to rules, a Brahmarshi should not eat meat and if it so happens, will loose his position. The 5th day of his entry into the royal kitchen wa sa festive occasion. As a ritual Sage Vashista had to eat in the palace. The plan was to serve Vashista with human meat and snatch his Brahmarshi position.
At the end, Vashistarshi was served human meat in between vegetables by the demon-cook. When the rshi found something fishy about the food, he checked the dish through his Jnanadrshti(light of knowledge) he found he had been served human meat. Knowing nothing about all this, the king who had water in his palms to perform a ritual met with ill fate, as seeing him in front, Vashishta(who did not know that the king was not responsible for this error) cursed him to become a Narabhakshaka(demon who eats humans alive)for serving him human meat. The king enraged for being cursed for something he had not done, was about to curse the Rshi with the water in his hands, just then hid intelligent wife stopped him as cursing a Brahman would make ill befall the whole lineage. Thus the king poured all the curse water onto his own legs and behold! hid legs started blistering anmd unable to tolerate the pain, ran away to the forest.
By this time, Sage Vishwamitra, came to know all about the hapenings through the demon-cook. He already made the demon-cook enter the body of the king who had already become a bloodthirsty demon. After his entrance into the kings body, the demon-cook, on Vishwamitra`s telling, went to Vashista`s house and ate all 100 sons of Vashista including Shakti and Shatananda and ran away happily. But the sin of Brahma-hatya leaveth none. It could not catch hold the demon as he already was having that dosha, but the dosha ran after Vishwamitra.
Vishwamitra started to yell after seeing the doshapurusha wiuth his long horns red eyes and black face. He escaped to Kailasa where Rudradeva(Eashwara) denied him any help against that major dosha(the sin bourne by killing a Brahman is Brahma-hatya dosha). So Vishwamitra rushed to Satyaloka where Brahma, the creator adviced him to chant the Gayathri mantra from Rg Veda. After doing Gangasnan and chanting Gayathri, he was cleansed of all sins including Brahma-hatya dosha.
So this Gayathri became famous as the Gayathri which cleansed Sage Vishwamitra and hence, Vishwamitra Gayathri.
There is another Gayathri by name Hamsa Gayathri only used by Sanyasis or mystics. So far no views have been added to Vedas but the views of Rshis are present in Upanishads, Shrthis and Smrthis.
Krishna Yajurveda(rituals of newmoon) and Shukla Yajurveda(rituals of fullmoon) are the categories in which the Ritualistic Veda of Yajus is found.Quote:
also, the yajur veda is supposed to have 2 parts --krishna yajur and another part composed by a rishi.I too have heard is it ritual oriented.
Any more queries, do ask without hesitation. Bye.
Because posting in english is easy. BTW, ask your N. Indian friends if they can even distinguish between one southern language from the other. That's how much vain they are.Quote:
Originally Posted by shoyonika
Á¡Ä¡, º¢Ä «ýÀ÷¸û ¿¢Â¡ÂÁ¡É Ţš¾õ ¦ºöžü¸¡¸ ÅÕž¡¸ ¦¾Ã¢ÂÅ¢ø¨Ä. «Å÷¸¨Ç ÒÈ츽¢ôÀ§¾ ºÃ¢. ¾í¸û ¸Õò¾¢ø ¾í¸Ù째 ¿õÀ¢ì¨¸ þøÄ¡Áø ÀüÀÄ §Å¼í¸Ç¢ø ÅÕÀÅ÷¸Ù¼ý º£Ã¢Â Ţš¾õ ¦ºöÂÓÊ¡Ð.
உண்மைதான் திரு கண்ணன். இவர்கள் இழிசொற்களைப் பயன்படுத்தித் தவறான வாதம் செய்து பிற அன்பர்களைத் தரக்குறைவாக ஏசுகிறவர்கள். புறக்கணிப்பதே நல்லது. உணர்ந்தேன்.
Á¡Ä¡, ¾Ã¡¾Ãõ «È¢óРЉ¼¨Ã ¸ñÎ §¾¡Ã Å¢ÄÌŧ¾ ¯ò¾Áõ. «È¢×¨¼Â «ýÀ÷¸û «È¢Å÷ ¯ñ¨ÁÔõ ÀñÒõ ¯¨ÈÔÁ¢¼ò¨¾.
¬õ §Á¼õ!! ¿¡õ ¸Å¢¨¾ô À̾¢Â¢ø ºó¾¢ô§À¡õ. º¢Ä Åâ¸Ù¼ý Å¡Õí¸û. ¿ýÈ¢. :(
If being vain is concerned, then just measure your worth in the literature field, instead of showing others being vain or worthy. And I in no way am troubling anyone, I too speak and write tamil, so I am not creating any misunderstanding, but am correcting what had gone wrong, though if you want to join others in different threads, it is your own wish Krishna. And if posting in english is easy, then why do you write in tamil? so that some should not understand what you say? come on, this forum is supposed to be for everyone seeking knowledge.Quote:
Because posting in english is easy. BTW, ask your N. Indian friends if they can even distinguish between one southern language from the other. That's how much vain they are.
It is your prerogative to write in english or tamil, but don't bring other languages in this Tamil thread. And I post in Tamil because I love posting in Tamil. But it's not always that I post from my home PC, where I have the fonts.
Stop calling me by any other name. :evil: :evil: :evil: I have never abused your name and I expect the same from you.Quote:
it is your own wish Krishna
Well, I am not going to blame you.Quote:
Originally Posted by shoyonika
Sure, everybody is conming to gain knowledge. You can't understand biosynthesis of cholesterol when you dont know the valency of Carbon.
Not everybody can learn everything.
This is a thamizh literature section and YOUR INTENTIONS are OBVIOUS from YOUR OWN STATEMENT quoted above!Quote:
Originally Posted by shoyonika
It is a pity, they let you do your ugly dance around here :(
I want to know meaning of the word
"Neelotpalavalli"
Well, atleast our thoughts match somewhere, as thats what I think about you too. :)Quote:
This is a thamizh literature section and YOUR INTENTIONS are OBVIOUS from YOUR OWN STATEMENT quoted above!
It is a pity, they let you do your ugly dance around here
means creeper of the blue lily, and when used as in the name of a person means, as delicate as the creeper of blue lotus.Quote:
I want to know meaning of the word
"Neelotpalavalli"
Neela=Blue, Utpala=Lily, Valli=creeper.