Well said, Nakeeran.. ! His new songs are jus crap..Nothing new, eighter nothing great..Quote:
Originally Posted by Nakeeran
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Well said, Nakeeran.. ! His new songs are jus crap..Nothing new, eighter nothing great..Quote:
Originally Posted by Nakeeran
Another fascinating aspect , I wonder whether IR fans will find it hard to digest ,
ARR was / is more successful in Bollywood when compared to IR . WHY ?
Some of IR compositions have gone Bollywood mostly as dubbed or remake movies but I wonder IR could have done it well in Hindi ?
ARR's success in Hindi movies is HISTORY.
Probably the first Tamil music director whose name is immensely popular in North !
Another fascinating aspect , I wonder whether ARR fans will find it hard to digest ,
IR was / is more successful in Telugu/Kannada/Malayalam when compared to ARR . WHY ?
Some of ARR compositions have gone Telugu/Kannada/Malayalam mostly as dubbed or remake movies but I wonder ARR could have done it well in Telugu/Kannada/Malayalam ?
IR's success in Telugu/Kannada/Malayalam movies is HISTORY.
Probably the first Tamil music director whose name is immensely popular in entire South India!
Ayyo, ARR's days are over long ago. There is no juice at all in his music now a days.
Something is wrong with ARR fans if they expect some miracle out of him. the only exception was RDB???.
ARR should follow the IR route. just concentrate on a movie and get the best tunes.
ARR is no longer the 90s ARR to create records.
Just be happy with his old gems . keep on listening to them.
Look , the tastes of SI audience are virtually same but Bollywood fans have a different liking which ARR fitted well with consumnate ease. in fact , he changed the hindi music to a new direction. Anumalik, nadim shravan, milind anand etc all look like novice before him.
he is the most celebrated MD in north
ARR could have composed movies in SI languages with his customary ease. he didnt bcas of other commitments. you all know his speed of compositions
RDB kekalaya ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanjeevi
IR's not succesfull in Hindi, cus he doesn't have that wide musical aspect that rahman has. ARR's music appeals to all people of the world. IR's music doesn't. EX: IR can't reach youths in Europe! He can't make a dance track for discos like: Fanaa, Maramkothye, Ilamai, jus 2 mention a few. Even if IR was able to do symphony, he wasn't able to get international recognition!Quote:
Originally Posted by Nakeeran
HAHAHA.. Did you heard about "Saathya" "Boys" "Bombay Dreams" "RDB" ? They all created records..Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanjeevi
Those 4 albums sold more than IR last 50 albums in whole India.. U're are up against a wall.. :lol:
Will you agree with my list of 2000 IR's ????Quote:
Originally Posted by rashid2raj
Well, then it has to be from IR start till today.. 2000 out of his 5000 movies.. ? Even if i took ARR's hits from start till end, it won't be bigger as IR is old & ARR is youth when compared 2 IR..Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanjeevi
Hey nakeeeeeraaaa.
The same reason that why ARR won't able to shine SI languages except tamil can be applied to IR too.
Hi rashid2raj
Why did you mention Saathya instead of Alai payuthey. This clearly shows your hindi dominated thoughts. If anyone will get hindi recognizition, he is your hero??? ARR got international recognization and IR did not get the same :roll:, keep your dreams, instead of this we can say ARR is famous amoung NRIs. :wink:
Ippo enna ARR SI movies panlanaa avar dhandama ? chinnapulla thanama irukku ?
gundu chatiyil kuthirai otamal irukanum.
Hi Sanjeeevi Anna..Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanjeevi
I mentioned Saathya cus of being a BIGGER hit than Alaypayuthey which also was a BIG hit.. But i remember day after Saathya cd's got released that it sold damn crasy.. !! Actually i don't wanna pis you IR fans off. But his new songs are too bad..
Some of his old songs are still rockin' and will always do..
UP AGAINST WALL. DEAD END.
I dont want to put forth my views to IR worshippers here.
ITS A WELL KNOWN FACT TO THEIR HEART OF HEARTS THAT IR'S MUSICAL DAYS ARE OVER LONG BACK
ZINDAGI KE SAFAR MAY GUZAR JATHI YE JO MAKAM. PHIR NAHI AATHEY
BYE
hindi movies panlanaa iver dhandamnu neethan ninaikura :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Nakeeran
IR fansum itha solluranga :( .Quote:
Originally Posted by rashid2raj
But you will agree when coming to BGM. IR still rulz in that area.
Sanjeevi
oh ippa topic enna BGM aa ??
alai payuthey, roja, pudhiya mugam, minsara kanavu, kandu konden , Indian
idhellam pakalayaa ?
Padayappa when he meets ramya again, the entire 5 minute stretch had BGM ONLY !
Indrum endrum Rajini fans idhai maraka maatargal
True, that's why he's doing SIVAJI now! ..Quote:
Originally Posted by Nakeeran
hey guys, we have already wasted tonnes of webspace arguing abt it......so lets stop this IR vs ARR........please......
we all know how much ARR and IR are worth.....nobody will win this arguement....trust me.......this has bcome more of Kashmir/Northern ireland/Iraq issue for this hub i guess :lol:
leave it guys.....just chill and look forward to SHivaji......it sure gonna rock... :wink:
:rotfl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanjeevi
Telugu/Kannada/Malayalam isen't as Bollywood
Baba countdown starts now :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by njv
3.Have you seen a beggar? I"ll give you a classic example. KH begged Sridevi for Vikram. This was published in Filmfare magazine. Unmai illaiya, KH ponnu kooda interviewla sonnale…. replacement dimple kabadiapa :lol:
2.govinda govinda… Whats amusing is whoever enjoyed these stuffs forms a satanic avatar here inorder to provide fun & entertainment to their bashers-support. But proven guilty these wise-hubbers couldn't digest it.
1.Why did you reply to this then? Stop behaving like a kid. Next time onwards before taking such drastic decisions consult a third party (good practitioner). He would certainly help whats wrong with your posts,news like RDB has shades of TIS, kalbali tracks resembles yeh yeh shabba sirpi song etc... Linku venuma. Later RBD found a place in yr top list is another different story.
Its pathetic people tends to forget those memorable songs "ennai thaalatta varuvale" , "aval varuvala" from the Maestro himself which were sung to young, upcoming actors no where suits their voices. govinda govinda yellam overa theriyala.. Listen to kannai katti kolladhe, uyire, cindrella, tumjo teri nigavon, colonial cousins and above two songs. HH is a class singer cut above the rest next to SPB.
idhu innum pudusu pa pudusu.. RS, the specialist :thumbsup:. Why didnt you post it earlier.Quote:
Originally Posted by rajasaranam
Karthik, naanum paarthen. ungala maathiri neutrala rendu peru irukkarathaala thaan IR vukke innum mathippu irukku. illana poiyile pirandhu poiyile valarndha pulavar perumaangal enna enna kadha kattuvanga..
Look These ppl applied the logic when SPB announced that MSV has done more than +1800 feature films which is unknown world record in the very same show :shock:
i guess the floodgates have opened as far as scale is concerned :lol: ....
did kamal really beg for sridevi for vikram??? :wink: .....
hey dude, actually just chill off man, nobody is gonna accept Kamal's faults or IR's faults here.....even if IR kills a person, ppl. are gonna support that.......that's the level of bias in this forum.......just hang out & enjoy with us(ARR-fans) here :D ......
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Originally Posted by MADDY
Maddy
Kamal sridevi ketta enna ketkalana namakku enna??
we enjoyed imple Kapadia rite ;-)
Free vidunga...............
Scale is a person who doesn't know about music and IR or even ARR. He once said that that IR doesnt know to play any musical instrument and ARR can play a keyboard which can produce the sound of any musical instrument :lol: and when i gave links about IR getting a gold medal and honors at Trinity college of music in Classical guitar he kept his mouth and ...... shut :rotfl:
Now he is telling my news is 'Pudhusu kanna pudhusu' well when given proper links and proven right he will start worrying and keep his mouth and ...... shut :notworthy:
Its high time we IR fans stop responding to the likes of scale.njv and thumburu has already done that it seems :) Atleast Maddy is more matured being younger than Scale :huh:
RS, how u say Maddy is mature?
He keeps saying that ARR fans never speak about IR, but in each and every post he tells something or other..also as a kosuru he is adding KH to that list...
is he really mature?
well well, stop analysing me and start analysing the topic guys..... :D .....
buggle, u dunno wat it is to be a ARR fan here....yes we speak abt IR when we are made to.....otherwise we dunt speak abt him as we have ARR-puranam to speak for our whole lives.....
svaisn, u r rite- dimple was a treat in that movie.....i promised selva that i wont comment on kamal again but it was too tempting u know :wink:
:huh:Quote:
Originally Posted by rajasaranam
meendum poi. You said that he can play several instruments with ease. Playing at home for leisure is not ease. I know he can play guitar very well from the pic available in all Raja sites. I asked him to provide articles, live videos or album credit list where he has played guitar,flute, mirudhangam,tabla etc & other instruments. Still....:roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by rajasaranam
You havent. The fact is MR never realized/approached IR/any other MD after Roja for his movies.Quote:
Originally Posted by rajasaranam
Exactly!. :thumbsup: Absolutely no problems. As far as TFM/IFM is concerned he has got wider spectrum. I observed it well b4 FH registeration & openly accepted it in the early days "ARR A Forgotten Hero". What I am forced to do now & convey him is "ARR truly the redefiner of TFM/IM/fans at his predecessor/fans irrational end."Quote:
Originally Posted by rajasaranam
Live for IR, Die for IR - policy oligha. :hammer: :wave:
http://forumhub.mayyam.com/hub/viewt...asc&start=1875
buggle,
With great interest I do read every post, technical analysis of Songs irrespective of MD's. To make someone shut their mouth you need actuals not imaginations.
Dont talk about maturity here? Being a HCfan doesnt mean you need to shut everything and admit.
Maddy, karthik lets forget that kamal & dimple matteru. Thanks.
Scale raasa...every Musician whether ARR or IR or John williams must know the nuances of music making and also how to play instruments to make music. If IR did not know how to play instruments like guitar table mridhangam, he would not have been able to implement them in his songs without complicating the tunes and making them sound so pleasing to the ears...it is not a matter of evidence or proof...this are things the listener can find out by listening to songs of ARR or IR whether they know how to play instruments and looking at the way IR has instrumentated his songs one can sure know he does know how to play this instruments.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scale
PS: Scale JEOK audio album yeppo varum nu theriyuma ungalakku?
Have you watched/heard a jugalbundhi between a flutist (naveen) & ARR (piano) playing exactly the same chords. Do you mean to say Naveen knows to play piano EASE. For ex: How about Sivamani performing a concert with Guitarist Prasanna, kunnakudi vaidyanadhan, Sitar, ghadam, veenai, flutist, others, etc... Does it mean everybody knows to play the other instruments "EASE".
nuances of music theriyalana composerave irukka mudiyadhu. appa YSR/HJ kku ella instrumentsum ease vasikka theriyumnu solreengha. Cant you feel in what they really lacks/struggling ? Thats how IR/ARR stand as a successor.
vutruppa.. pls
>>PS: Scale JEOK audio album yeppo varum nu theriyuma ungalakku?<< theirjavudane solli anuppuren.
I meant in the context of composers...antha mathirina approm vera vishayamaayidum...naan thaan yega patta request anuppitaenae vidunga vidunga nu...yaaru nammai peichai keikura...kalavaram undakkamal irunthaal seri...:D
Seri seri solli anuppidunga...:)
thnx scale but u r very gud in bringing up links and making ppl. eat their words :D ....keep it up scale we need ARR fans like u here and i'm really proud that it was my thread that bought u here.... :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Scale
i too oppose it very strongly.........there has been too much of IR-fanatism here and everybody thinks, only they are rite......if there is a comment abt IR and some other actors, it is not taken lightly here........Quote:
Originally Posted by Scale
http://www.nilacharal.com/enter/celeb/ilayaraja.html
(Carnatic Music and western music, Gold medalist in classical guitar (Higher Local) examination conducted by the Trinity College of Music, London)
MADDY,Quote:
Originally Posted by the same rajasaranam
60's laye londonla conduct panna HL Examla Gold medala. yebba.... therama saalidappa. idhu mattum unmaiya irundha yennanamo TFMla nadathurukum.
http://www.goodnewsindia.com/Pages/c...ons/musee.html
Many notable names in Indian music have learnt their craft and appeared for examinations at Musee Musical, among them Ilayaraja, L.Shankar, L.Subramanyan and A.R.Rahman.
maddy remember>>> the same "psycho" :lol: will be back with more interesting stuffs.
I am a diehard ARR fan, but I prefer IR-Rajini combo to ARR-Rajini. Never been all that impressed with ARR's songs for Rajini, except for a few, but that may be the nature of the films. They don't really lend themselves to ARR's kind of experimentation like a Shankar or Mani Ratnam film.
Sivaji has the potential to be awesome because of the Shankar-ARR combo. Too bad ARR didn't do Anniyan. HJ did a good job, but ARR would have knocked it out of the park.
Actually Rajini post ANnamalai and before Annamalai are 2 different phases. He reached the next level in his career with this film. The emphasis on intro song etc.. was more only after this film. IR has done only Uzhaippali for Rajini after Annamalai, which IMO is below the 3 films by ARR, also how the hell can we compare someone like IR who has composed some 'n' no. of films for Rajini over the years with ARR who has hardly 3 films to his credit?
IR + Rajini combo is the best :thumbsup:
Phurrrrrrrrrrrr :rotfl: Laughing from somewshere else :rotfl: Keep up the good work this shows you dont even know what is Trinity college of music and wat are their examination procedures and who conducts the Exam in chennai on behalf of Trinity college of music.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scale
Google and search for more links and find out for yourself . :notworthy:
Iam Resigning from the job of teaching you :poke:
All the best for your future :thumbsup:
Rajasaranam and others.
IR is IR and ARR is ARR. they share mutual respect . why do you all fight on a dead issue now ? lets not exchange fireworks ridiculing each other's limitations or shortcomings
however, it was ARR who took over from IR ( which itself IMHO is a big achievement of sorts ) and changed the taste of music lovers.
both are legends in their own right . Teekhai ??
Taking over from IR is not a mere child's play. IR took over from MSV and made him retire in less than 4 to 5 years. Its almost 14 years after the advent of ARR...But IR is still here to Rule and there are many Film Directors and music lovers who wants IR 's music.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nakeeran
Read this review from Hindu for pithamgan
http://www.hinduonnet.com/fr/2003/10...3101210200.htm
You say about the change in taste of music lovers...Its not yet happened in full and IR's music is still captivating many or why else people who worked with both IR and ARR prefer to comeback to IR :huh: Because they know that the music that IR gives for films is not mere music but it elevates the movie to a different plane.Quote:
The king is at it again so keep away folks, says Ilaiyaraja's mesmerising rerecording feast. The captivating numbers vouch for the fact that the Raja reigns supreme.
Only one thing can be accepted in the whole perspective... ARR was able to encapture the minds of northies which no one else could dream off and its a great achievement indeed. But down south he could never win over IR such is the aura that IR has created here. ARR is just a small 'keeral' in the repertoire of Raja. It will go away but Raja will be still here.
'Singanthin Kaalgal pazhuthu pattalum Seetram Kuraivathillai' :)
Taking over from IR is not a mere child's play. IR took over from MSV and made him retire in less than 4 to 5 years. Its almost 14 years after the advent of ARR...But IR is still here to Rule and there are many Film Directors and music lovers who wants IR 's music.
Read this review from Hindu for pithamgan
Yes IR got couple of movies because ARR not concentrated much in Tamil that too he is scoring alongwith Harris jayaraj/Yuvan shankar/Bharadwaj etc. sorry he is not ruling those days are gone.
While MSV was force to retire after 4 years but IR case immediate. To be precise
After CHINNA CHINNA AASAI/URVASI URVASI/ANNAMALA ANNMALA.
RAJAVAI KANNAVILLAI
ramesh