Why do usay Cheran condemns vikram and other cine people ? Can you throw some light on it... im unaware of these things... to my knowledge Thangar Bachan did such things and got into trouble :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Aandavan
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Why do usay Cheran condemns vikram and other cine people ? Can you throw some light on it... im unaware of these things... to my knowledge Thangar Bachan did such things and got into trouble :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Aandavan
Andava,Quote:
Originally Posted by Aandavan
I repeat my eralier post here..
Personally ,I rate people only based on what they achived on screen ..Their off screen life,speaches ,good will ,bad things won't increase or decrease my admiration or dissatisfaction on them..That is my stand
correct ... but his attempt at acting is still irritating me... e could have easily casted another actor in maaya kannaadi... but why is he acting in it???Quote:
Originally Posted by joe
Cheran said "Rajkiran's performance in Thavamai thavamirunthu is better than Vikram's Anniyan Performance " ,For me I agree with him fully,though I like Vikram too. :)
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Originally Posted by joe
he really said that? :lol:
believable, very belevable - coming from chEran.
avar movies ellaam ippadi saathaarnamaa irukkumpOdhE ippadinaa... periya hittaa aanaa? :shock: aandava nenechu paarkka mudiyala!
no joe, he told Rajkiran in TT proved that he is a better actor than Vikram........that was pretty rude.....i dont like Vikram but surely he doesent deserve a comment like this on him......also, as selva said, he talks as if he is the only saviour of tamil cinema...........he also spoke somewhat ill of Deva to appreciate IR......i was relieved he didnt touch ARR......Quote:
Originally Posted by joe
and joe sir, i know we shuldnt mix personal life/interviews and works, but it makes me uncomfortable when i watch such ppl.'s movies where they actually think, they are doing some favor to me......i really dont deserve such egoistic persons movies....... i have choice from Steven Spielberg, Akira Kurusowa, Mani Ratnam, Raykesh Mehra, Bharathiraja who are 10 times better than him then y should i watch his movies........
in fact contrary to selva's opinion, I have very hgh regards for Visu who combines social themes with humour whch requires great skill.
I agree he makes them entertaining and not sober.... Vivek also tries to do that in comedy tracks :DQuote:
Originally Posted by NOV
ayam Ravi in Lage Raho Munnabhai remake
IndiaGlitz [Thursday, November 23, 2006]
Well, this is the question that has been doing the rounds in kollywood these days.
It is well known that the Gemini Film Circuit which remade with great success Munnabhai MBBS in Tamil, has bought the remake rights for the sequel Lage Raho Munnabhai MBBS too.
The film on Gandhigiri is being made in Tamil and Telugu.
Chiranjeevi is likely to be the hero in the Telugu remake. But it is in Tamil that there is a speculation.
Saran, who directed Vasool Raja MBBS, though being its producer may not direct Lage Raho.
Kamal has also indicated that he may not act in the Tamil Lage Raho. Sources indicate that Jayam Raja may direct the Tamil remake of Lage Raho.
So with Raja at the helm, there is intense speculation that Jayam Ravi may get to play the hero.
Raja has successfully directed his brother Ravi in remakes like Jayam and Unakkum Enakkum
Jayam Ravi :shock: :shock: :shock:
The guy is a very bad choice.... ok lets see... hope he does the role well :P
Having Jayam Ravi as Vasool Raja could work well. In fact, the writers can say that Vasool and Janaki's son is Jayam Ravi's character in the film while Prabhu will be around to superwise the dude (Or they could come up with excuse for his next of kin, might I suggest, Santhanam?)
This sequel could work VERY WELL, if the writers know what they're doing...
His Voice his flair for comedy are poor... i would prefer Kamal Again... or in young crop Jeeva or Simbu... Not Jeyam Ravi For Sure :P
prassana'z gt 5 votes? wow i never knew he was tht famous!!?
simba simba simba alll the way :thumbsup:
Atleast you were saved from CM that day :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by MADDY
And whats that bull shit about sympathy votes :roll:
I like the guy and so i voted for him..
Almost all young heroes are talented dude..Vishal,Arya,Barath,Jeeva..All are talented n their own way, but the point is that Barath has nothing special about him to sustain him..
Vishal has the dravidian looks and has already built an action hero image..
Arya is a heart throb, acts as well as barath,only downside is his voice modulation..
Jeeva is probably the most talented and daring of the lot, he has okay looks, the best so far in the acting dept and is very willing to try new scripts and change his get up (obviously not in all movies,but atleast once in a while) unlike barath (as A_A already pointed out)..
So I frankly dont see what makes Barath so special that you'd actually feel sad if he doesnt carry on for too long..
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Originally Posted by Aandavan
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Originally Posted by Aandavan
ChEran is one guy who is getting better with each passing film. Despite all the message business he brought so much nativity and intensity in movies like porkaalam. By the time he made paandavar bhoomi he had already had a decent grasp on the medium relying more on actors and background rather than long dialogues and overt preaching.
ChEran's movies are greater than the sum of their parts.His movies may not stand up to critical dissection. But in Tamil films, except the obvious exception, no-one else's does. There are several parts of Autograph are highly appealing. TT was even more aesthetically developed.
Same pinch. In fact as a selfish film lover I'd go one further step and say I'd rather prefer a brute who makes better films than a saint who makes trash.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe
ChEran has said time and again how he has had problems trying to find heroes to act in his films. Apparently he only wanted to direct TT. But no hero was willing to play a the role of a guy who had a pre-marital relationship and ran away from home leaving his parents in the lurch. So ChEran did it himself. It was definitely a mediocre performance, even by his own admission.Quote:
Originally Posted by selvakumar
I don't agree Joe. TT was really well made. The cinematographer M.S.Prabhu, was literally the second hero of the film. IMO Prabhu's work here was as good as (am even tempted to say better than) his debut film (Mahanadhi). You will literally feel the dusty village, the crammy Madras flat, the relaxed comfort of the Madurai apartment, even the echo in the Azhagappa college classroom.I thought the art direction was good even in PorkAlam, pAndavar bhoomi. He is getting better in all aspects with each film.Where ChEran stands tall is the great acting he gets from his entire cast, even the minor characters.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe
To highlight this I quote a couple of scenes from TT, where Rajkiran borrows money from the moneylender. The first time the moneylender will in fact come across as someone really harsh putting down Rajkiran and his business prospects.
Meanwhile he will be counting money and he will pass on an instruction to his assistant
veLiya ukkaandhurukkira rice-mill kaarar kitta, kaiyezuthu vaangikkittu indha paNathai kudu.
Then he will turn to Rajkiran and say
vevasAyiyE kadaila arisi vAngi sAppidurAN , idhula arisi-mill enga Odap pOguthu ?
So he lends fully well knowing that the loan won't be repaid and he can covet the security.That was a subtle and beautiful social commentary of the kandhu vatti situation without getting into long dialogues like Vetri kodi kattu. That is how ChEran has evolved as a film maker.
Several scenes later, the moneylender is now seen as an older man (gold-framed glasses and sandhana kungumam etc) and is more relaxed and even has some positive assuring words to say to Rajkiran. All this is brought out with very few lines of dialogue but just excellent casting and good direction.
ChEran is the guy I expect a lot from.
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Originally Posted by NOV
what do you mean? Thavamai Thavamirnthu ,Autoraph,Boondavar Boomi are great movies ..when everybody promoted Vikram saying his performnce in Anniyan deserves Nationa Award ,Cheran said Rajikiran's performance in TT desrves more ,IMO ,It is true
Re-watch "M. Kumaran" again. His comedy timing is great.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulb_mani
That line was :notworthy: :clap: I agree with him since that is the truth ! He referred to the world underrating his performance. But he shouldn't be that much harsh. :roll: Anyway,Quote:
Originally Posted by joe
Coming back to the topic,
I don't think people in the list will make it big. This period is an intermediate period between two generations. RK - KH in their 50s. Ajith and Vijay still ruling in terms of mass.
So, STAR OF THE FUTURE >> will be someone who gets introduced into the industry after the next 15 years ! :)
Exactly Joe. The same with me. He did not underestimate Vikram.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe
Showing 3 different stages of a person's life is much difficult than acting as 3 different personalities. That is what he said.
What he wanted to convey was, we give more importance to popular actors but tend to forget some great performances from not so popular actors. This was tilted by people and showing Cheran as aggressive or rude person is not acceptable.
After all he is not attacking directors/ actors directly or indirectly in the name of punch dialogues in his movies. Whatever the opinion he has, he says openly.
Whatever it is, he is the one among very few who does not depend on mass songs, punch dialogues, Cheap glamour, depending popular actors.
Still he is one among the top directors now.
As far as performance in box office..
2 Superhits, 4 decent hits among 7 movies he directed. That is indeed a great achievement considering the kind of movies he take.
2 movies won national award too :clap:
PrabhuRam,
That was a great post :clap:
Thiramaigalai varavaerkka manasillainaalum thurathurathula kuriyaa irukaatheenga. :cry:
potkaalam-sangavi :rotfl:
Me too :P I would like to see him doing different variety of movies including full length action(KuruthiPunal kind), comedy, etc... and like to see his way of handling different themes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
But the possibility is very less in near future. :(
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Originally Posted by MADDY
Reflected my thoughts too :)
If we call someone as a Good director, we should Compare him with good directors. If I believe anyone as a good director, I will never compare them with the present generation of directors (masala). BTW, Tamil Film industry requires commercial films too for its survivial. It is mixed in the main bloodline of our audience taste. To change that: We require lot of efforts and in the process we should concentrate on *our goal*. I have never seen even a director like MANI doing these kind of things. :oops: He sticks to his objective and executes them. :clap: after all one should learn to respect basic human values and priorities.
In that case, at any day, I would prefer a good - human giving his best to a egotistic guy giving BETTER IN THE NAME OF ART !
PR, what I meant to say there was: Even good directors have faced these kind of situations. An actor can act in any films provided he likes the script. The duty of the director is to find a suitable character. IN that case, Cheran could have preferred any new comer for those roles and definitly he could have extracted something better than what he did. Especially the people who acted in brother & brother-in-law roles. IMO, that girl did an awesome job compared to Padmapriya and Cheran combo. Anyone in Cheran's place (a good director) would not have acted in that and would have gone for a new comer. :) This is my opinion.Quote:
ChEran has said time and again how he has had problems trying to find heroes to act in his films. Apparently he only wanted to direct TT. But no hero was willing to play a the role of a guy who had a pre-marital relationship and ran away from home leaving his parents in the lurch. So ChEran did it himself. It was definitely a mediocre performance, even by his own admission.
prabhuram,
i never degraded the greatness of any cheran movie... i just dont like that fellow acting, and he is behaving so haughtily, and is very disrespectful of others...
hmmmmmm.......yendha hero pullayo/perano adhu??? :lol: .......Quote:
Originally Posted by selvakumar
Exactly :clap: ..This is my point here.Cheran may not be the best ..But does he deserve to be thrown out or called as Joker or Buffon ? The whole aruguement starts here only .Quote:
Originally Posted by Thirumaran
If we treat Cheran (who gave Autograph,TT,Bondavar Boomi ,Porkalam) as a joker ,I wonder whether Tamil cinema standard reached that much height ?
And ,mixing personal behaviour with art is something I can't buy ..The relation between me and artist is just art only ..I don't bother how good he is in his personal life ,How many wifes he has ,How he act innocent infront of others...I prefer to buy vegitable from a vendor who is honest in his business and deliver good,fresh vegitable ..Do I need to make sure how good he is in real life? I don't think so
yes.....must appreciate Kamal in this aspect,...... :clap: .......he has achieved so much for Tamil and Indian cinema but i have hardly seen him speaking like that........infact he still holds so much respect for his seniors like Shivaji and contemporaries like Rajini and encourages the next gen like Maddy.......Quote:
Originally Posted by Aandavan
Anaithum arindhavan pesa maattan
Arai gurai arindhavan pesamal irukka maattan....
(its something else, but hope i got the meaning right)
joe, please have a look at some of the stills from the movie maaya kannaadi... :oops: :cry: thaangalmudiyala ......Quote:
Originally Posted by joe
1. He is quite okay on the characters he chose so far. We had been tolerating several mass actors mediocre acting in several movies but not giving much chance to prove Cheran's worth in acting Considering he had given some really good movies and not getting enough support from actors to act in his movies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aandavan
2. I would only see his proudness on his products same way as IR and Kamal. I know people used to say Kamal and IR in the same manner.
3. Not really aware on this except on his comparision on Vikram and Rajkiran performance. That too as i mentioned his words were taken in different sense. It would be helpful if someone bring exact words he throw mud on other. Links would be helpful :wink:
I was watching his program in Jaya TV(Celluloid Cheran) last week. He was in praise of directors like Gautham, Selva, Bala, etc...
u got it spot on maddy..... :thumbsup: :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by MADDY
no joe, its not abt being good/bad........this guy is directly indimidating the viewers........he is like "naa ungalukaaga padam panrathu unga bagyam"......... :oops: ........i dunt want to watch such haughty ppl.....and mind u he is not a IR also for whom we will sacrifice our egos....... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by joe
Andava,Quote:
Originally Posted by Aandavan
I have seen few..But before the movie release,before I know what is his character in that movie ,I don't want to comment ..
Ippadi paarthutae irunthaa naama yaaroada padamum paarka mudiyaathu :(Quote:
Originally Posted by joe
MADDY, all I will say is Kamal is one of the subtlest people in the industry :PQuote:
Originally Posted by MADDY
Joe put it better than I could ever hope to.
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Originally Posted by Joe
this arguement is never going to end...
on one side, u people are saying that his movies are too good to avoid him for other minuses....
on the other side, we are saying that his acting and his behaviour are reasons, enough to avoid him.....
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Originally Posted by Aandavan
I could not see one actor who can talk that CHENNAI thamizh perfectly after kamal Hassan :lol:
Jeyam Ravi is going to act in Lage Raho Munnabhai :cry: It wont suit him... Kamal is the best choice :P
Andava,
You argue like this ,since it is cinema ,people invlove in this industry are so popular and we know their faces..
Let us say ,You like a writer's writting very much ..You don't even bother to know his personal life ..I know some people who like sujatha's writings very much ,but they think 'sujatha' is a female. You are a kamal fan ..One day you happen to meet Kamal ,he didn't treat you well as you expected ..Will you change your admiration on kamal's movies ..If Yes,I can't argue with you ..I am also a kamal fan ,If it happens to me ..It won't affect a bit of admiration on kamal.
i agree joe..Quote:
Originally Posted by joe