Chinna Kalaivaanar Vivek

Roshan,

Agree completely on your point on Vadivelu. But I guess I enjoy him more than you seem to have.

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NOV, you are digressing here too much :lol2: :P

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agree with you completely... :P

vivek would have said, "naattula ennanamO sirippaa sirikkidhu, ivanunga ennaanaa....."

whereas vadivelu would have said, "auuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu..."

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Prabhu,

But dont you think it's again all about a person's interest, liking, perception, prejudices etc?

You may find Vadivelu funnier than Vivek or even Nagesh but to be honest, the moment I see Vadivelu on screen I would immediately take the remote in hand to change the channel or put it on mute until something interesting, that I feel, comes on. To me even the most hailed 'pulikEsi', sounded mokkai in many scenes. But I have, to some extent enjoyed his sequences in movies like Kadhalan, Friends, London, Winner et al. However, I would rate his character role 'Esakki', in Devar Magan above all his comedy flicks.

Re Chaplin - to be honest again, I have not enjoyed his sequences mostly. Mr Bean pAthu vizhunthu vizhunthu sirrikkiravangaLa aacharyamA pArpEn nAn. It's not my cup of tea. I have no qualms in accepting that, even if my sense of humour is criticised based on my 'gender' :wink: :P :) 8-)

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pulikesi he got on my nerves :x

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NOV, check my post(s) (Don't point PR). :lol2:

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i was tempted to sing kamal pOtri after seeing your post but restrained myself.
when PR followed suit with his aamaa saami, i couldnt resist. sucker aint I? :cry:

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Come on Nov, I'm with you on Nagesh. I just find him a more complete actor after his association with Kamal. Well, ask Nagesh, he'll affirm!

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Thilak,

Just says that you have missed to watch 'proper' Nagesh flicks that are prior to his association with KH :( Konjam veLiya vanthu ulagatha pAkkanum neenga.

Re Nagesh affirming - Give me a break :evil: :lol:

Again, I have to completely agree with NOV in this regard.

IMO vadivElu is good at getting beaten from his fellow comedian how ppl bear watching at him I wonder.

The way he cries, he brings Fox in front of me, i get really irritated see him crying,at the same time i can't stop my other family members enjoying his jokes. i am reiterating opinions differ. peoples' taste differ, because of this difference in interest we have so many comedians, orelse eveyone would have enyoyed with one comedians

I am also now falling into the prey of this digrssion :lol2:

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NOV, you are digressing here too much :lol2: :P

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agree with you completely... :P

vivek would have said, "naattula ennanamO sirippaa sirikkidhu, ivanunga ennaanaa....."

whereas vadivelu would have said, "auuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu..."

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NOV, i was just kidding, felt i can take liberty on you :P

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IMO vadivElu is good at getting beaten from his fellow comedian how ppl bear watching at him I wonder.

The way he cries, he bring Fox in front of me, i get really irritated see him crying,at the same time i can't stop my other family members enjoying his jokes. i am reiterating opinions differ. peoples' taste differ, because of this difference in interest we have ao many comedians, orelse eveyone would haev enyoyed with one comedians

I am also now falling into the prey of this digrssion :lo12:

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Ennaiporuththa varayil---

Vadivelu innoru Rajini---Commercialaaa (fewtimes)...

Vivek innoru kamal---Tharaththil (many times).......

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NOV, check my post(s) (Don't point PR). :lol2:

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i was tempted to sing kamal pOtri after seeing your post but restrained myself.
when PR followed suit with his aamaa saami, i couldnt resist. sucker aint I? :cry:

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Come on Nov, I'm with you on Nagesh. I just find him a more complete actor after his association with Kamal. Well, ask Nagesh, he'll affirm!

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Thilak,

Just says that you have missed to watch 'proper' Nagesh flicks that are prior to his association with KH :( Konjam veLiya vanthu ulagatha pAkkanum neenga.

Re Nagesh affirming - Give me a break :evil: :lol:

Again, I have to completely agree with NOV in this regard.

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Please name them, I'll affirm whether I've seen or how I rate them. Come on, I say..

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For starters, compare how Nagesh carries himself or delivers his lines in Anbe Vaa, and later, in MMKR. He's much more subtle, and molded into the role!

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Such claims are not risible anymore to me....i have read some comments in this very hub in the past that the great NT sivaji ganesan was more refined and subtle in devar magan bcos of kamal.

Om kamalaaya namaha !!!!

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the moment I see Vadivelu on screen I would immediately take the remote in hand to change the channel or put it on mute until something interesting, that I feel, comes on.

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I have seen few of my friends do the same :)

Btw, Though I like vadivelu (less than vivek) ,putting him beyond Nagesh :oops: May be i am biased :)

Roshan,

Chaplin is much more than slapstick, I think he's the first real pioneer of satirical and tragicomedy. More than acting, his direction is an integral element. Behind all those leftist claims, his polemics, both politically and humanistic, is unparalleled!

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NOV, check my post(s) (Don't point PR). :lol2:

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i was tempted to sing kamal pOtri after seeing your post but restrained myself.
when PR followed suit with his aamaa saami, i couldnt resist. sucker aint I? :cry:

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Come on Nov, I'm with you on Nagesh. I just find him a more complete actor after his association with Kamal. Well, ask Nagesh, he'll affirm!

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Thilak,

Just says that you have missed to watch 'proper' Nagesh flicks that are prior to his association with KH :( Konjam veLiya vanthu ulagatha pAkkanum neenga.

Re Nagesh affirming - Give me a break :evil: :lol:

Again, I have to completely agree with NOV in this regard.

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Please name them, I'll affirm whether I've seen or how I rate them. Come on, I say..

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Neer Kumuzhi
Ethir Neechal
Kaadhalikka NEramillai
ThillAna MoganambAL
Major Chandrakanth
Sarvar Sundaram
ThiruviLaiyaadal
ThAmarai Nenjam

To name a few :)

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NOV, check my post(s) (Don't point PR). :lol2:

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i was tempted to sing kamal pOtri after seeing your post but restrained myself.
when PR followed suit with his aamaa saami, i couldnt resist. sucker aint I? :cry:

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Come on Nov, I'm with you on Nagesh. I just find him a more complete actor after his association with Kamal. Well, ask Nagesh, he'll affirm!

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Thilak,

Just says that you have missed to watch 'proper' Nagesh flicks that are prior to his association with KH :( Konjam veLiya vanthu ulagatha pAkkanum neenga.

Re Nagesh affirming - Give me a break :evil: :lol:

Again, I have to completely agree with NOV in this regard.

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Please name them, I'll affirm whether I've seen or how I rate them. Come on, I say..

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Neer Kumuzhi
Ethir Neechal
Kaadhalikka NEramillai
ThillAna MoganambAL
Major Chandrakanth
Sarvar Sundaram
ThiruviLaiyaadal
ThAmarai Nenjam

To name a few :)

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Oru paanai sotrukku oru sor padham... :D

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NOV, check my post(s) (Don't point PR). :lol2:

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i was tempted to sing kamal pOtri after seeing your post but restrained myself.
when PR followed suit with his aamaa saami, i couldnt resist. sucker aint I? :cry:

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Come on Nov, I'm with you on Nagesh. I just find him a more complete actor after his association with Kamal. Well, ask Nagesh, he'll affirm!

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Thilak,

Just says that you have missed to watch 'proper' Nagesh flicks that are prior to his association with KH :( Konjam veLiya vanthu ulagatha pAkkanum neenga.

Re Nagesh affirming - Give me a break :evil: :lol:

Again, I have to completely agree with NOV in this regard.

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Please name them, I'll affirm whether I've seen or how I rate them. Come on, I say..

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Neer Kumuzhi
Ethir Neechal
Kaadhalikka NEramillai
ThillAna MoganambAL
Major Chandrakanth
Sarvar Sundaram
ThiruviLaiyaadal
ThAmarai Nenjam

To name a few :)

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Seen 'em all(except for Thamarai Nenjam), and found his style pretty much confined. From the dialogue delivery to body language..

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Oru paanai sotrukku oru sor padham... :D

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அதுல 8 சோறு இருக்கே! :roll:

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NOV, check my post(s) (Don't point PR). :lol2:

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i was tempted to sing kamal pOtri after seeing your post but restrained myself.
when PR followed suit with his aamaa saami, i couldnt resist. sucker aint I? :cry:

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Come on Nov, I'm with you on Nagesh. I just find him a more complete actor after his association with Kamal. Well, ask Nagesh, he'll affirm!

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Thilak,

Just says that you have missed to watch 'proper' Nagesh flicks that are prior to his association with KH :( Konjam veLiya vanthu ulagatha pAkkanum neenga.

Re Nagesh affirming - Give me a break :evil: :lol:

Again, I have to completely agree with NOV in this regard.

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Please name them, I'll affirm whether I've seen or how I rate them. Come on, I say..

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Neer Kumuzhi
Ethir Neechal
Kaadhalikka NEramillai
ThillAna MoganambAL
Major Chandrakanth
Sarvar Sundaram
ThiruviLaiyaadal
ThAmarai Nenjam

To name a few :)

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Seen 'em all(except for Thamarai Nenjam), and found his style pretty much confined. From the dialogue delivery to body language..

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AaLa vidunga saami :yessir:

NOV you are RIGHT :notworthy:

In "Kaadhalikka NEramillai" Nagesh wld narrate a story to his dad, it was a splendid performance from him. :thumbsup:

IMO we can't/should not compare any comedians, everyone has their own style which some pople like some may not, it doesn't mean that one is greater than the other

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Oru paanai sotrukku oru sor padham... :D

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அதுல 8 சோறு இருக்கே! :roll:

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Nagesh sir'kku adhu oru soru dhaan--- :D :D :D

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AaLa vidunga saami :yessir:
NOV you are RIGHT :notworthy:

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NOV yaaru :yessir: vEcha :P

I agree with you :D
Letz enjoy talking about VIVEK :D

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NOV you are RIGHT :notworthy:

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:D

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Oru paanai sotrukku oru sor padham... :D

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அதுல 8 சோறு இருக்கே! :roll:

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"adhu 8 paanaila irundhu eduthadhu" - ippadi answer panradhu namma annan Gounder style (now i am using Gounders name here bcoz every one bringing others like nagesh, vadivelu, chaplin, kamal :wink: )

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Oru paanai sotrukku oru sor padham... :D

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அதுல 8 சோறு இருக்கே! :roll:

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"adhu 8 paanaila irundhu eduthadhu" - ippadi answer panradhu namma annan Gounder style (now i am using Gounders name here bcoz every one bringing others like nagesh, vadivelu, chaplin, kamal :wink: )

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Vivek-thavira matha ellor pErum varudhu :roll: :lol:

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Oru paanai sotrukku oru sor padham... :D

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அதுல 8 சோறு இருக்கே! :roll:

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"adhu 8 paanaila irundhu eduthadhu" - ippadi answer panradhu namma annan Gounder style (now i am using Gounders name here bcoz every one bringing others like nagesh, vadivelu, chaplin, kamal :wink: )

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Vivek-thavira matha ellor pErum varudhu :roll: :lol:

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anyway, I just realised that just as all roads lead to rome, all adulations lead to kamal

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:D I was sure you would react thus to Thilak's post.

Thilak only said Kamal was able to bring out more variety in Nagesh's comedy. AnbE Vaa, Dharumi, TM's Vaiththi, Kadhalikka Neramillai Chellappaa are all Nagesh's best. And undisputable Tamil Cinema classics. But there is an observable similarity in Nagesh's performance. Similarity can be replaced with "style" too !
But Nagesh's performances in MMKR, Avvai etc. were so unlike his earlier style and indeed brought out another dimension of him. avvaLavu dhaan sonnOm.

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anyway, I just realised that just as all roads lead to rome, all adulations lead to kamal

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:D I was sure you would react thus to Thilak's post.

Thilak only said Kamal was able to bring out more variety in Nagesh's comedy. AnbE Vaa, Dharumi, TM's Vaiththi, Kadhalikka Neramillai Chellappaa are all Nagesh's best. And undisputable Tamil Cinema classics. But there is an observable similarity in Nagesh's performance. Similarity can be replaced with "style" too !
But Nagesh's performances in MMKR, Avvai etc. were so unlike his earlier style and indeed brought out another dimension of him. avvaLavu dhaan sonnOm.

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Diplomatically worded but this can be applicable even to Kamal Hassen's classics.

When Thilak says he found Nagesh's performances in Neer Kumizhi, Thirvilaiyaadal and Ethirneechal to be similar - he simply defeats his own argument on MMKR, Avvai Shanmugi or even Nammavar IMO :)

Watching some Vivek scenes from Boys :lol:

The wine shop scenes :lol:

Siddharth : Hello Saar, I am Munna

Vivek: ennA??

Sidharth: MunnA

Vivek: irunthuttu pO :lol:

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Watching some Vivek scenes from Boys :lol:

The wine shop scenes :lol:

Siddharth : Hello Saar, I am Munna

Vivek: ennA??

Sidharth: MunnA

Vivek: irunthuttu pO :lol:

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U tell Vivek Better than Vadivelu---Accepted

But not better than Nagesh---he should go a long way for comparing with Nagesh

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Watching some Vivek scenes from Boys :lol:

The wine shop scenes :lol:

Siddharth : Hello Saar, I am Munna

Vivek: ennA??

Sidharth: MunnA

Vivek: irunthuttu pO :lol:

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Diplomatically worded but this can be applicable even to Kamal Hassen's classics.

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Yes Roshan, it can be said of Kamal too. There is a lot of similarity in Kamal's acting style across many of his movies ('thud' of NOV swooning as he reads this :-).)
But he has managed to show so much vareity that this is ignored.

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But dont you think it's again all about a person's interest, liking, perception, prejudices etc?

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Aamaam. But Thilak's statement was an observation. And I feel the reactions to it (and mine) are driven by emotion and nostalgia.

What would be a good counterargument is an example of two different films for Nagesh's heydey which were from completely two different styles.

By the way I am not even saying 'variety' is the only yardstick. I am only clarifying Thilak's point that Kamal indeed brought out many dimensions in Nagesh's comic performances.

The 'comic' performances in all the films mentioned had a similar style. Not the movies nor his role/performance in entirety. I don't see where Thilak's argument stands defeated.

And I am not bringing in the humanism,leftism stuff about Chaplin. I mean as pure slapstick genius he was phenomenal. There a scene (I think in the movie 'The General', Iam not sure) where Buster Keaton tries to walk against the wind. Unbelievably funny.
Which is why I am sorry those who prefer only wit are missing.
Like the old malt-drink commercial...yOsikka vENdAm..appidiyE rasikkalaam.

I have some my opinions about this sirikka-sindhikka. And again I feel Vivek does a better job of this than NSK. Today seems to be sacrilege-day I guess :-)

One thing for sure.

Vadivel >>>> vivek :yessir:

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Watching some Vivek scenes from Boys :lol:

The wine shop scenes :lol:

Siddharth : Hello Saar, I am Munna

Vivek: ennA??

Sidharth: MunnA

Vivek: irunthuttu pO :lol:

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sorry to interfere: :(

Sooriyan:

omakuchi: idhukku poyi pitchai edukkalam

gounder: poyi edu yaaru vendanna

just pointed the similarity / style of the Boys scene with a gounder scene

Back to vivek :)

R_R inge vENdAm, ange pEsuvOm ;-)

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One thing for sure.

Vadivel >>>> vivek :yessir:

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Ofcource----Vivek'ku appuram dhaan vadivel

ivanunga Ayyappan cassette pOduRathukku yenna Nadarajar service AakkittAnga .. munnEruna seri :lol:

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Oru paanai sotrukku oru sor padham... :D

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அதுல 8 சோறு இருக்கே! :roll:

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"adhu 8 paanaila irundhu eduthadhu" - ippadi answer panradhu namma annan Gounder style (now i am using Gounders name here bcoz every one bringing others like nagesh, vadivelu, chaplin, kamal :wink: )

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Vivek-thavira matha ellor pErum varudhu :roll: :lol:

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i said that in vivek's thread all other names are given so i too add gounder's name (i know i am the one started it)

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R_R inge vENdAm, ange pEsuvOm ;-)

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adhudhan namakku sari pattu varum.... adhukku sirikkiranga (:lol:) idhukku sirikka mattangala-nnu solla vandhaen (:lol:).... ippadi solla vandhudhan 2 pagela ketparatru irundha thread-a 14 pakkam izhuthuttoam :)

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R_R inge vENdAm, ange pEsuvOm ;-)

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adhudhan namakku sari pattu varum.... adhukku sirikkiranga (:lol:) idhukku sirikka mattangala-nnu solla vandhaen (:lol:).... ippadi solla vandhudhan 2 pagela ketparatru irundha thread-a 14 pakkam izhuthuttoam :)

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What would be a good counterargument is an example of two different films for Nagesh's heydey which were from completely two different styles.

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I am confident that I have done that :)

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Yeah true, if that is the yard stick then no body can be spared :wink:

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I understood that point of yours :)

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Oru paanai sotrukku oru sor padham... :D

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"adhu 8 paanaila irundhu eduthadhu" - ippadi answer panradhu namma annan Gounder style (now i am using Gounders name here bcoz every one bringing others like nagesh, vadivelu, chaplin, kamal :wink: )

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Vivek-thavira matha ellor pErum varudhu :roll: :lol:

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i said that in vivek's thread all other names are given so i too add gounder's name (i know i am the one started it)

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RR don't be serious, I was just kidding, as u have given so many sames :P
oru comedian thread-en evvalau serious-a eruku :roll:

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RR don't be serious, I was just kidding, as u have given so many sames :P
oru comedian thread-en evvalau serious-a eruku :roll:

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naana..... serious-ah.... never.. never... :)

ok... vivek fans.... when is "Solli Adippaen - who ever it may be" (who ever it may be - is the tag line for the film) is getting released :wink: