Prabhu Deva is a dancer. Matter over
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Prabhu Deva is a dancer. Matter over
natural ok... but actor :?Quote:
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
as groucho said, he was good in yEzhaiyin sirippil..... one more movie is there... Ninaivirukkum varai....
MinsAra kanavu kooda oththukka maatteenga pOla thONudhu
Comedy kooda rejetted-A :huh:
PR, ennai porutha varai, blanket rejeet...thagara kiNNam kooda kedayadhu
Crikey, ambuttu long post panittum, innum Prabhu Deva patti pesikittirukkengga.
Minsara Kanavu, the man stole the show right under the "hero's" nose.
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Originally Posted by Sarna
Comedy :
Kamal: idhu en sundari
PD: idhu en ja ja...
Madanbob -Isabgol thick-friends conversation
Nam iruvar namakku iruvar
aamaam dA...inimE en kitte pEsAdhe dA..un uravE vEnAm dA....dA
Suyamvaram
sirukku 50 latcham paadhi poNNu
VIP and many more
seriyas dhaan vENumnA
veNNilavE pAttula Kajol paada aarambikkira idam oNNu irukku
One main important thing of Prabhudeva is that he never irritates in the name of acting(like old Surya in VA) or comedy(like vikram in majaa) or any other aspect ......
Groucho is the hero. Tamil film rules..one who gets the girl is.Quote:
Originally Posted by groucho070
annai indira....andha kaalathula mattum naan irundhirundhEn...vidha vidha vidhamE vettiruppEn :lol:
PD:indha black and black ellAm pOttukittu
AS: amaam
PD: brake :lol:
The scenes where he tries to wash his hands off Kajol, the burst-out in the hospital. Quite an unfilmy and convincing performance.
Back in the days, there are usually two negative complaints about him.
1. His look. Well, girls never took to that look, so he was shot down as lousy actor.
2. Dance. Yes, he is a dancer, that's all. So was Kamal before acting as an adult. As a dancer, he understands emotion and how to express them well. May not be perfect, but he has some understanding.
He is quite an original actor, never aspired to be Kamal or Rajini, never took their styles, ( he should know their approach better having had a hand in choreographing their dances.)
adhE adhE.
And to deny even 'thagara kiNnam' as if we are flooded with a sea of fluent stars who can emote and evoke laughs fluently is :x Most of those we have emote and evoke laughs simultaneously.
Plum,
Ulagam eppadi kettu poirukku paathela? :(
neenga solravangaLukku plastic kiNNam kooda kedyadhu.
ennamo, groucho and PR, indha PD payalai tolerate paNNa mudiyalai. Minsara Kanavula Aduppula Vendha Saamy-ai over shadow pandradhellam oru achievement-nu solla mudiyadhu.
Thankfully, I have 'surgically' erased all memories of PD's movies from my memory - something which, worryingly, I havent been able to do for Prashanth
adhe adhe CR. indha PR generation pasanga...hmmm...but then that doesnt account for groucho.Quote:
Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
I was an early supporter. PD's my age, by the way. Intrigued by his dance moves, I followed his career, and really liked him. I even liked him in that so called "vulgar" movie, Indhu. Total riot in there, nobody else of his age would dare to work in a film like that. Chinna vayasileyee risk eduttaaru...but again, all these are what happened beyond 10 years ago. Naama ippo, intha threadla irukkura candidates patti pesuvom, sorry for thisai tirupputhal of the thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
"sorry for thisai tirupputhal of the thread."
- Enna ippadi kettupteenga? Thread e thisai thirupparadhappathiyum, thisai thiruppuradhukkum dhaane :razz:
Anyway indha thread-ai poruthavarai not-versatile appidingradhai oththukkarEn
Surya
...
Madhavan
Vikram
....
Jeeva (katradhu thamizh and E, both script driven...more evidence needed to fix a spot. Excerpts seen from thenAvattu weaken his case)
Bharath (ippo konja naaLA sandhEgam...proven incapability in comedy. I doubt he can pull the general-geniality-without-doing-anything-at-all role Shahid Kapur did in Jab We Met)
indha periyavangalE ippidi dhaan kadivaaLaththai pOttukkittuQuote:
Originally Posted by Plum
PD interval scene in NINI
paadhaiyil kal.... enna ulagamadA idhu :lol:
groucho, ofcourse idhellam taste, preference, podalangainu pogum...so no hard feelings, I hope.
As CR said, and I am even one step further, thread-titlengaradhu oru starting point dhaan - digression-o, regression-o, interesting a matter irukkaradhangaradhu dhaan important. Appo appo thread-ai marubadiyum original direction-la kondu vandhukkalam. Adhukku naan guarantee.
Prabhu Ram - Ippo current candidate Madhavan. Avarai pathi unga karuthai konjam vevarama sollunga.
Grouch azhaga template-la nomination file panni irukkar. Neengalum adhe template-la podunga
1. Ability to blend into the film, irrespective of the film's milieu, mood, theme, setting
Reasonably good here. He hardly ever sticks out. Is almost never bigger than the film. He is as good or as bad as the film- which should be a reasonable explanation for his ordinary performances too :P
For all the charge against Inba in aayidha ezuthu I thought he did a good job. The post-abortion scene where we enter late (he is helping himself to a lunch after disappearing for weeks !) and finds out when fiddling with the bag. His fury, helplessness come out extremely well. He was the pick of the film. Yes agreed he didn't do the accent well.
2. Variety of roles - not sure what this means though - let's say ability to emote a range of emotions
Except Thambi he was been pretty much on the ball in the whole gamut
anger - InbA
disappointment- inbA and some scenes in MinnalE
ignorant and funny - ND
nonchalant and funny - bottle maNi in Ethiri
Pretty good in AnbE Sivam
3. Should we bring in ability to do any accent.
Bulb in AE
Passable in Dum dum dum.
Good job in ND.
Yes that is the crucial point. Often times the slip shows with Surya. He is not as consistently natural as Madhavan is. If at all madhavan comes across as over the top it is in roles that made such unreasonable demands: thambi and to some extent ND and AS.Quote:
Originally Posted by groucho070
Well said :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by groucho070
Exactly my thoughts on Surya...Neengalum avara nenachu than soneengala :?
He works hard, so hard that there is a sense of preparedness in his acting. Even while in conversation he seems to be getting ready with his next dialogue. Avara poi versatile...Mercantile nu sollitu
As Groucho says, Madhavan 'reacts' so well, looks so fluent and natural. Take 'Anbe Sivam' for example. Now, replace Madhavan by Surya and we'll get to know who is a fine actor between these 2.
But, is Madhavan versatile? I don't think so :oops:
aahaa, ingayum ooru onnu koodittaingappa :shaking:
Ok, strong case for Madhavan. Looks like a dark horse for winning the "critics award" for versatility :-)
I'd like to make a point here
Preparedness is not that bad a word as Hubbers seem to be insinuating here.
Surya slips ofcourse showing the effort- most notably in Ghajni but that shouldnt take away from versatility. versatility != spontaneity
I think we should judge Surya-Madhavan without taking into account 'natural acting' and 'spontaneity factor'.
Just saying.
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Originally Posted by groucho070
yup! He just lives the char so casually, like therez no screen involved. Therez no try. no effort at all. Therefore, THEREFORE, he performs anyrole with ease. (thats called versatile)
I was about to post something similar here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
I don't understand this obsession with "natural" or the bias against "trying".
Inbasegar in AE, Madhavan was *trying* hard to convince us that he is a baddie from North Madras. He was trying hard with the accent in Dum Dum dum (and failed. The point is not about accents, its about this 'look ma' offensive), he tried hard in ND. Heck, everybody tries hard i guess but importantly it shows in these films
And another thing: What is natural for A need not be natural for B. idha thaan comfort zone nu solrom.
Appadi paatha Arvind Samy must be the greatest actor ever, going by "natural", "dont look ma, i'm not acting" parameters
Dubbing Vikram-nga.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
:shock: PR...engayyA irukeenga? Unga account Hack aayita maathiri oru Feeling...
yArAvadhu Perazhagan Surya (The Boxer), Kaaka Kaaka (Very bad acting except a few sequences... ex: The scene where he screams with the plasters, glucose bottles), SOK (with Bhumika after return/ scenes in the rain/last fifteen mins with Jyo) kalaaichu udungapA... ivan imsai thAnga mudiyala...Quote:
Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
Venki,
Pls do the honors :P
correect'aa point'ukku vandhutteenga :clap: :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by Shakthiprabha
but in Ayan(only), Surya did everything with ease :thumbsup:
Dubbing Vikram-nA ?Quote:
Originally Posted by VENKIRAJA
Vikram Abbas-ku kooda dhaan dub paNNi irukkAr.
Vikram comedy paNNa sollunga pAppOm.
Simran is not a good actress-A ? Enna solla vareenga ?
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
Purila, enna solla vareenga? :confused2:Quote:
Originally Posted by VENKIRAJA
Two things:
1. I don't think Vikram dubbed for Prabhu Deva in 'minsArak kanavu.' I'm quite sure it was Prabhu Deva's voice. Venkiraja is perhaps confusing with 'kAdhalan.'
2. Abbas was funny (!) in PKS. (And no, Vikram didn't dub for him. It was one of the current regulars.)
Prabhu deva is in OK level :P avvalavudhaanga :) idhudhaan saakkunu innikku eththana hero OK level'ku mEla irukkaanganu kEkkakoodaadhu :notthatway:Quote:
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
vennilavE paattula PD was :2thumbsup:
Few Good things about PD are
1. Originality in ACTING
2. Ease in acting ( within his limits )
any more....
NeengaLum Surya Hater-A? There is a long list of 'sothai' and 'weak' performances from him. We can easily observe the contrast between Daniel Balaji and Surya in Kaaka Kaaka's final moments. Mayavi is a prime example of Surya's unimpressive slog. His commercial features show how pathetic he is Aaru(Songs esp. Paakadhe could have been better even with a expression-less J.Ravi) Vel(Both roles are plain :o His sheshtaigal in 1000 jannal veedu). Interview-la kooda he 'tries hard'. Karthi is much better- Looks wise as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
indha chennai poNNunga ellArumE Surya fans pOla... ivaLunga avankitta ennatha kaNdAingannE therla... Everyone are crazy about him. erichalA varum. adhula pArunga, ellArOda Caller tune/ ringtone ellAmE Munbe va thaan. :x
adhethan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
the efforts put into versatility takes a toll on spontaneity...is also an issue.
to do a role which is not within ur horizon and also with spontaneity....is difficult.most of the actors who have maintained the spontaneity in their charecters have not been versatile.
two different dimentions.
Mixed. Some parts PD some parrts VikramQuote:
Originally Posted by equanimus
unga kooda pEsaNumnAlE dictionary vachikkaNum pOla irukkE : Vikram voice
Annai indira: PD voice
IIRC of course
I mean. Vikram qualifies into the grand pool of 'Versatile actors' very broadly. Surya ellAm "sellAdhu.. sellAdhu" Deposit-E pOyirum case.Quote:
Originally Posted by crajkumar_be