Nadigar Thilagam Sivaji Ganesan - Part 4

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Originally Posted by Murali Srinivas

Dear Rahavendra,

What NOV says it correct. When it comes to performance, Vanishree is streets ahead of Manjula. But was Manjula there in the movie? Why I am having this doubt is, Manjula last did Shanthi Nilayam as a child artist and the movie was released in May 1969. If my memory serves me right, she was booked for Rickshawkaran in Dec 1969 (In fact she had not even become major to sign the agreement with Sathya movies and her mother signed on her behalf) and the main clause was she should not act in any movie till Rickshawkaran gets released. It got released in May 1971 and Kulama Gunama in March 1971. May be she must have acted before 1969 Dec but was Kulama Gunama on floors at that time? Probably, you should be knowing.
Regards

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Dear Murali,
You have touched the point. Why Manjula was not there in the movie Kulama Gunamaa - the answer is in your post itself. Actually it should have been the first film for her to act with NT. As I said a few schedules of the movie were shot with Manjula and in fact she was just crossing the childhood and was too young. But her performance in that role was exemplary. But because of her adodlescent like looks, (I heard, I do not know how far it is correct), it was decided that some senior artistes be approached and only after consideration of two or three names, it was narrowed down to Vaanisree. There is no doubt Vanisree has given one of her best performances in this film. But the pace was a little less than that was given by Manjula. The whole unit was very much pleased with her performance but in the rushes her looks - may be slightly immature for that character - might have been the minus points - what I mean is not about her personality, but the character needed a little more aged lady character. This was also mentioned by KSG during the shooting of Kulama Gunamaa (in the magazine Pesum Padam, around the later half of 1970). More so, when NT & Manjula were arguing, it seemed it looked like a verbal duo between a father and a girl rather than what it should have been. In fact I did not want to elaborate the reasons (which I myself am not 100% sure), but you have touched that point (childish look). After that I do not know if she got such a good chance to perform (even in NT's movies). She had plenty of scope in Dr. Sivaa, but gave very subdued performance in that movie, then Mannavan Vandhaanadi, had some scope. In Avan Oru Sarithiram she had some chance.
With regards,
Raghavendran.

Dear NOV,

உங்களின் 'குலமா குணமா' விமர்சனம் அருமை. ஆனால் இறுதியில் இப்படத்துக்கு நடிகர்திலகம் தேவையில்லையோ என்றொரு ஐயத்தை எழுப்பியிருப்பது போல் தோன்றுகிறது. நடிகர்திலகம் என்றாலே 'ஓவர் ஆக்டிங்' என்ற திட்டமிட்ட மாயையை மட்டுப்படுத்த இதுபோன்ற மிதமான நடிப்பைக்கொண்ட படங்களும் அவசியம்தானே.

குறிப்பாக நடிகர்திலகமும் வாண்ஷ்ரீயும் மோதும் அந்த வாக்குவாதத்தில் வாணியின் நடிப்பு நன்றாக இருக்கும். "ஆமாங்க... நீங்க சந்தனம்தான், நாங்க சாக்கடைதான்" என்று வாதிடும் சுட்டித்தனம் அபாரம் (அந்த இடத்தில் மஞ்சுளா எந்த அளவுக்கு பொருந்தியிருப்பார் என தோன்றவில்லை).

பாகப்பிவினை இடமும் சூப்பர். எல்லா சொத்துக்களையும் ஒட்டுமொத்தமாக ஒரே இடத்தில் வைத்து விட்டு, தான் தனியே நாற்காலி போட்டு அமர்ந்துகொண்டு... "சொத்துக்கள் இரண்டு பாகமாக இருக்கு. எது வேணும்னு முடிவு பண்ணிக்கோ" என்று நடிகர்திலகம் (அதாவது வசன திலகம் கே.எஸ்.ஜி.) கூற, அனைவருக்கும் குழப்பம். பஞ்சாயத்து பேச வந்தவர்களில் ஒருவர் "ஒருவேளை தலைவருக்கு கோப வெறியில் ஒண்ணு ரெண்டாக தெரியுதோ" என ஐயப்பட, நிலைமையை புரிந்துகொண்ட வாணி, கணவர் ஜெய் இடம் "ஐயோ, இது புரியலையா உங்களுக்கு. பெரியவர் சொத்துக்களை ஒரு பங்காகவும் தன்னை ஒரு பங்காகவும் வைத்து "நான் வேண்டுமா? அல்லது சொத்துக்கள் வேண்டுமா"ன்னு கேட்கிறாருங்க" என்று சொல்ல, பதறிப்போன ஜெய், 'எனக்கு சொத்து பத்து எதுவும் வேண்டாம், என் அண்ணன்தான் வேண்டும்' என்று நடிகர்திலகத்தின் காலில் விழுவது.... கே.எஸ்.ஜி.க்கு இந்த மாதிரி விஷயமெல்லாம் தண்ணி பட்ட பாடு.

:ty: saradhaa

indha padaththukku nadigar thilagam thEvai illai ena naan sollavillai. indha maadhiri characterisation ellaam avarukku jujubee. :D

maththappadi "overacting" engira kutrachattukkum enakkum udanpaadillai. vishayam theriyaadhavargal edhuvEnumnaalum sollittu pOgattum, namakkenna?

Read NOV's Kulama Kunama review with great interest. I am in the midst of re-watching it, just finished the first disc. As NOV said, simple story nicely spun into feature length by KSG. Actually, the film is fast moving, thanks to the tight script (and that good scene between NT and Vanisree is awesome) and wonderful performance.

My question is this: Why Jai Shankar? He was doing well on his own, wasn't he? Why did they rope him in this role, which can be given to good supporting actors like Muthuraman. He can be pretty interesting actor sometimes, but here he seems lifeless. Can anyone throw a light here?

Welcome Back Groucho :thumbsup: :cool2: :victory: :bluejump:

Welcome back Groucho bro ! :thumbsup: :D

Thanks, brother. What happened to your phone? Been sending a couple of messages and no reply. Intha sabai munnal ketkireen, hehe.


Back to the subject in hand.



I concur with NOV that this is the type of role, which we Malaysians would say, sap-sap-suey, for NT. Yes, it could have been done by anyone else (SSR? Eeek!) But it will lack the gravity that NT lends. Plus that time was NT at his peak, when he is churning out one brilliant performance after another. And this little bronze get to shine with the other golds.

So, NT at his peak. Jai already doing standalone film, with KSG directing. I bet the expectation must have been high for that time.

Another thing I realise from this movie is this: What a wonderful comedian Nambiar is! He excels in playing this kind of comedic bad guy, in a different vein than, say, MRR. This one echoes another favourite underrated NT flick of mine, Letchumi Kalyanam, playing Suruttu Sundaram Pillai. Thanks NOV for reminding us of this film.

P.S. I bought the VCD for my mom, who used to have a crush on Jai those days, hehe.

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Originally Posted by groucho070

Thanks, brother. What happened to your phone? Been sending a couple of messages and no reply. Intha sabai munnal ketkireen, hehe.

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<dig> :shock: Oflate, I was replying to all messages. did I miss anyone ? :(
Hope you would be doing great. :D I am fine here without any problems :D
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Jaishankar :roll:
I can never accept him as a good actor; wonder how he survived. Must be becos of fans like Groucho's mum. ;)

Now Muthuraman is one I would call an actor's actor. He even outshone NT in one movie :roll:

Nice to see you here Groucho. Next stop at hubbers lounge. :lol:

Welcome Groucho :D