ivvLo dhaana illai innum rendu advice edhaavadhu irukkaa?Quote:
Originally Posted by mohanraja
venumnaa naanum oru advice panren.
Thriuvannamalai ashramathula poi okkandhukkunga saar - velila manushan oruthanayum kaanala.
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ivvLo dhaana illai innum rendu advice edhaavadhu irukkaa?Quote:
Originally Posted by mohanraja
venumnaa naanum oru advice panren.
Thriuvannamalai ashramathula poi okkandhukkunga saar - velila manushan oruthanayum kaanala.
yoav kittu.
sogamana nerathulayum thevayaa un bittu?
Looks like a new movie, not sure it was talked here b4.
http://www.deccanchronicle.com/chann...appearance-149
layman,
Wow. This is definitely a new film. And the press should be told to stop the 'Raja makes a rare appearance' bit. Dei fellows, are you blind? He is there everywhere now :lol: Those rare days are gone.
Anway, the movie's premise looks interesting. The sort of emotional drama which Raja will love. Given that it is a Sreenivasan's film, the chances of release are bright. And to the those who seek humility you can check out what Raja had said here :)
ஒரு விஷயம். நானே சொல்லிக்கப்படாது. இருந்தாலும் சொல்கிறேன். சாரு, ஷாஜி, ஞாநி போன்றவர்கள் ராஜாவைப் பற்றிப் பொதுத் தளங்களில் அபாண்டமாகப் பேசியபோது மற்ற எல்லோரயையும் விட- நிச்சயமாகவே சொல்ல முடியும்- கடுமையாக எதிர்வினை செய்தவன் நான்.
ஒரு ரசிகனாக என்-நம் ராஜாவிடம் இன்னும் சில எதிர்பார்ப்புகள் உரிமையுடனான கோபங்கள் உண்டு என்ற வகையில் மிக மென்மையாக என் கருத்தை வைத்தால் கூட என்னை புறக்கணிக்க வேண்டும் என்று சொல்லும் அளவுக்கு ராஜா மேல் அநியாய பாசம் வைத்திருப்பவர்களைப் பார்த்தால் - எனக்கு உண்மையில் மகிழ்ச்சியாகத் தான் இருக்கிறது.
என் 'இசை அறிவு' பற்றி என் பதிவுகளைப் படித்தவர்களுக்குத் தெரியும். ஒரு முறை என் பதிவுக்கு வேறொரு தளத்தில் கடும் விமர்சனம் செய்த நண்பர் தான் என்னை புறக்கணிக்கவும் வேண்டுகிறார்.
மகிழ்ச்சி.
எல்லோரும் மகிழ்ச்சியாகவே இருங்கள். அதைக் குலைக்கும் எண்ணம் துளியும் எனக்கில்லை. Bye friends!
I thought people, by now, have got used to such stuff and have become pros in dealing with it (which means ignoring :-)). But whoever said that raaja did not achieve anything.. Is a genius! :-DQuote:
Originally Posted by Sureshs65
Raaja has all the right to speak his mind. We may like it or dislike it. If we like it, smile .. Else, move on and focus on music. Even i used to bother about other things once upon a time, but slowly, my perspective evolved. If there a god side of raaja manifested through his music, then there is a human side too, in his opinions etc. it's up to us what we choose and in what proportion. I am not saying that he is right or he is wrong. Matter of perspective! I'm only saying that his music will outlast everything that people complain about him and that's what will form his legacy in years to come. We need to talk about music. That's all.
வரவர இந்த திரிக்கு வரவே எரிச்சலாக இருக்கிறது! எப்டி இருந்த இடம் இப்டி ஆகிடுச்சு :(
Saami (Raaja) Varam Kuduthu poosari(GVM) Varam Kudukaliye?
Poosaari Engala kaapathu varatha(NEPV audio) release senju.
+1. Only raaja can help. sattu puttunu NEPV movie album release pannungappaQuote:
Originally Posted by sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
+100Quote:
Originally Posted by sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
Ditto. Very irritating and useless discussions. Really wish folks who want to discuss to a separate thread.
IMO, there had been always such discussions :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
I'm seeing such ones for more than a decade :roll:
chummA pulambARatha vittuttu uruppadiyA news / thuNukku irundhA postunga :-)
இவரையும் துரத்தி விட்டீங்க போல.. அவரு அப்படி என்ன தவறாக கேட்டுவிட்டார்? வெள்ளந்தியா எதுனா சொன்னாலும், வெகுளியா எதுனா கேட்டாலும் வரிஞ்சு கட்டிக்கிட்டு சிலர் வருகிறார்கள். எதற்கெடுத்தாலும் மறுப்போ ஒரு மாற்று கருத்தோ இருக்க வேண்டுமா? புல்லி பண்ணாதீங்க சார். அது தப்பு. இங்கு நிறைய ராஜா சாரை பற்றிய விஷயங்கள் கொட்டி கிடக்கிறது. குடுக்க நிறைய பேர் இருக்கிறார்கள். அள்ளிக்கொள்ள பலர் வருகிறோம். அவ்வளவே.Quote:
Originally Posted by mohanraja
இதனால் யாரையும் புன்படுத்த வேண்டும் என்பது என் எண்ணம் இல்லை.
போஸ்டே ராஜாவை புல்லி செய்வது போல் இருந்தால் என்ன செய்வது?. மற்றவன் என்ன கதை, என்ன பத்திரம் என்றில்லாமல் என்ன இசை என்ன பாட்டும் வீம்புக்கு கொண்டு வந்து போடுவான். அனால் ஆயிரக்கணக்கில் பாட்டில், தன் மேதமையை தேவை இல்லாமல் கதைக்கும், பத்திரத்துக்கும், களத்துக்கும் முன் கொண்டு வராத மேதையை பற்றி பேசினால் (பாடகர் தேர்வு பற்றி) என்ன பொருள்?. புரிந்து கொண்டு தான் பேசுகிறார்களா?.Quote:
Originally Posted by rajaramsgi
I definitely agree that Reeta / Tippu / Prasanna / Yuvan etc., are not Raaja songs worthy but -
1. We are really scraping the bottom of the barrell in terms of quality singers these days
2. And its Raaja who has been consistently using the best singer of this gen ShreyaG. Not Rahman / Not Yuvan etc.
3. But how many producers can afford a ShreyaG or even a Karthik?
4. And keep in mind that Yuvan was director-ask, not Raaja's choice. Cunning choice of singer if I may say so - Yuvan's fans are expecting this album as much as we do.
5. We have 4500 other songs which are sung by better singers, why bother about 500 if you really do not care? :-)
Raaja sirs new malayalam movie
http://www.deccanchronicle.com/chann...appearance-149
ரீட்டா, திப்பு - ரெண்டு பேரும் ராஜாவின் இசையில் நல்லாவே பாடுறாங்க. ரீட்டாவின் குரலில் "காத்திருப்பேன் காத்திருப்பேன், என் உசிரு என்ன விட்டு, துக்கமென்ன துயரமென்ன, ஆதிசொக்கா " :notworthy: - திப்பு - சொல்லவே வேணாம். பொண்ணா பொறந்தா, என்ன செஞ்சாலும், எங்கு பிறந்தது, நிலவைச் சுற்றி, கேக்கலையோ, என் மனமே என் மனமே, ரெக்க கட்டி பறக்குது.. - :notworthy: சிறப்பாகவே பாடியிருக்காங்க. திப்பு பாவம். அவருக்கு சில நேரத்துல கூட்டத்துல கோயிந்தா போடுறமாதிரி அமைஞ்சுருது.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nerd
யுவனை இந்த அலை நீளத்துல சேர்க்கக் புடாது. அவரின் குரல் மெருகேற்றப் படாத, பயிற்சியில் உட்படுத்தப்படாத ஒரு குரல்.
A Looong writeup about Jency! -> http://www.facebook.com/notes/malini...00886876635740
I agree with Venki to a certain extent. I find Rita to have done a very decent job of 'kaathiruppen'. (I don't know why Baradwaj Rangan didn't like the voice!!!) And the song in 'Mayilu' is quite well done by her. Her urban style does come through in the 'Mayilu' song, which probably Janaki would have nailed perfectly, but to be fair Rita isn't too bad. And isn't she the one who 'unnai patri sonnal'? Again a job well done. Ofcourse, if you are comparing with legends like PS, SJ or KSC, then they may not reach those standards. But if you remove the comparison from you mind, she has been a decent job. So let us give credit to that.
I have had my problems with Tippu's voice in many songs and also his singing style but what he did in 'SreeRamaRajyam' was amazing. 'kalaya nijama' is something no one can complain about. I mean, in an album dominated by SPB and Shreya, Tippu's song stands on its own equivalent to any other song and his singing cannot be faulted here. He does a good job in the 'Thandavakone' and the 'Ayyan' song as well. I somehow don't like much of the youth / kuthu songs he did but surprising like his sings in songs which are more emotional in nature. I know that Jai has likened him to a modern day Malaysia Vasudevan, if I am not mistaken.
More importantly, as Nerd correctly pointed out, how many producers are ready to pay for Shreya or even Karthik. So if you analyze the songs, you will see that singers like Rita are more used in films where the budget is a big constraint. 'Mathiya Chennai', 'Mayilu', 'Sengaathu Bhoomiyile' etc. When the budget is better, like 'SreeRamaRajyam' or 'Prem Kahani', you can hear singer like Shreya. Infact Raja in many films had used Bela Shinde as a replacement for Shreya. Raja at his prime may have demanded the singers he wanted and got them. Now when he is helping out movie with low budget, he has to 'scrap the bottom' as Nerd says. That is the quality of singing we have. A pity but the reality is that.
I find many male singers, Unni krishnan, Tippu, vijay Yesudas to err, while, many female singers does better job. In ajanta movie, many places where unni krishnan sings, when he sings a complete line, he gives full throat ONLY during the start and end of the line and kind of mums in the total middle.
Been away for a week. I find it necessary to clarify some misconceptions before moving on.
1) rajarammsgi's "ivaraiyum thorathittingaLA" is a gross misrepresentation. From the tone and context, I presume he is pointing to the supposed fanatics here who have chased away mohanraja etc. However, the "ivaraiyum" in this context is misleading. Because, the only others who have been chased away recently are myself and V_S. And WE HAVENT BEEN CHASED AWAY BY THE SO CALLED FANATICS HERE but very much their antagonists.
2) To Softie's point, no I am not doing this out of character. I, in my arrogance as ever, have deemed that this forum is no longer of the overall quality of discussion required for me to participate and hence I am walking away. In saying this, I recognise that I am ignoring some wonderful individual posters like suresh, jai, git, kv, V_S, App, Nerd, wiz, P_R etc but the balance recently has been such that this part has become minority and a majority is a mind numbing, commonplace thinking majority that dominates in the real world too. Contrary to Suresh' claim, until recently, the balance was not so lopsided. So, softie, Plum is being arrogant as ever. Nothing out of character. In particular, outside the IR forum, this degradation is pronounced. Perhaps, the sports section still has some decent discussions going but that is not enough carrot for me.
3) IN short, like equa says artla democracy velaikkavaadhu. Likewise, democracy has become too much of a luxury to offer to a majority of posters here in my opinion. They dont simply deserve it. I recognise that the moderators have a different philosophy and have complete respect for the way they have conducted this forum, including banning me briefly, which I think was justified - and to clarify, it was for repeatedly questionin them publicly, which I now recognise was an ill-conceived thing to do. But, and this is important, their moderation philosophy of theirs is only ironically contributing to the reduction in quality of discussions in this forum. This is my opinion. It is possible for miscreants to apply NOV's signature, and drag down the quality of discussion, and then claim victory and these are the ones predominant in HUB now.
4) If and when this balance changes, I might be attracted again to post here. Until then, thanks to all the named and unnamed posters who have given me a lot of pleasure for over 14 years now in this forum. This was a great place to be. Hope it becomes a great place to be again in future.
Thanks in particular to the moderators RR, NOV, P_R and LM who have been even handed, fair and tolerant even of my stretching their limits of patience. They have done well - I just wish them more worthy participatns in future than they have now. They deserve better.
Goodbye and thanks for all the fish!
Good luck with the other good persuasions in life. Do visit when you're utterly bored. If not by posts, do PM, keep in touch (not in a dry real-life way, but in a more exciting virtual sense). I look forward to your thoughts. You will be utterly missed here.
I understand a lot of what you are saying, but I find discussions here to be pointless and immesurably shrinked in context of larger things. I might have sounded darn serious before. But things have changed. They found a giant sized tumor in my rectum.
I guess rajarammsgi's statement includes mottai dhasan too. rajarammsgi can confirm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
பொதுவாக ராஜாவின் ரசிகர்களில் அவரைப் பற்றிய தேடலில் உச்சம் அடைந்த பிறகு அவர் மீதான சமீபத்திய குற்றசாட்டுகள் குறைகள் பற்றி அக்கறை கொள்பவர்கள் மிகக் குறைவு. அந்த மனிதனின் திறமைக்கு இது சான்று எடுத்துக்கொள்ளலாம். அதே போல் பல தரப்பு ரசிகர்கள் உண்டு. ஸ்பீல்பெர்க் படங்களுக்கு இன்றும் ஜான் வில்லியம்ஸ் இசை அமைப்பதும் பல வருடங்களாக மிகச் சிறப்பாக என்னியோ மோரிகோன் இசை அமைத்து வருவதையும் போல் ராஜாவும் வளமான தனது இசைப் பாணியுடன் இசை அமைக்க வேண்டும். அவரை இன்றைய திரையுலகம் இன்னும் நன்றாகப் பயன்படுத்திக் கொள்ளவேண்டும் என்ற எளிய ஆனால் பேராசையைக் கொண்ட பாமர இசை ரசிகர்களில் நானும் ஒருவன். எனவே இன்னும் புதிதாக தெரிந்து கொள்ள இருக்கிறதா என்று 'சிலருக்கு எரிச்சலூட்டும்' இந்தத் திரிக்கு பல வருடங்களாக வருகிறேன்.
உங்களிடம் இருந்து இன்னும் செய்திகள் எதிர்பார்த்து தான் இன்றும் வந்தேன். ராஜா தான் என் வாழ்க்கையில் புதிய நண்பர்கள் பலரைத் தந்தார் என்பதால் ..எனக்கு இதுவும் ஒரு அனுபவம் தான்.
comeon guys - lets bring the focus back to music - but for music, none of would even be here in the first place!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwmkTWJndC0
'Thunder rolls' by country music artist Garth Brook - the opening (prelude ?) chords sound somewhat similar to the prelude of 'senthoorappoove' from' 16 vayathinile' - perhaps a good example of how IR has integrated western classical music chords system into tamil/indian folk and still make the WCM chords sound folkish and vice-versa! that i think is what we call the IR genre!
and also, in anticipation of NEPV, efforts are on to get as much exposure in the jazz/pop music world for the same - doing my best to get the groundwork/foundation laid - already the reviewers of IR's music in the jazz and film music sites here in the US have been alerted to NEPV having instrumental pieces (they made it very clear that they will not review albums that dont have soundtracks like they do here in Hollywood) - so fingers crossed!
a movie and music journal (specialising exclusively on how music is composed for moving images) has replied (so far) in the positive abt reviewing IR's works for HEY RAM, NAYAGAN, PAZHASSI RAAJA and NANDALALA - personally, am excited coz, this journal is not one of those read only by music faculty makkals - this journal is read by music faculty as well as regular composers in the classical mould and in the film industry! long for the day, when one Mr. John Williams will raise his eyebrows after reading abt IR's 'wagnerian' trumpet in HEY RAM!
irir123,
Superb. This is what was required here. Something to do to promote Raja to a larger audience. I know your passion well and I am very certain that you will succeed. Needless to say, any help from my side, feel free to ask.
The reviews of the 'Solla Solla', 'Fire Star' and the Chitra album were also very nice. It is good that these people are looking at Raja's music as 'alternate music' and are able to decompose the music as per their taste and still like it, though Raja predominantly composed for a Tamil audience and their sensibilities. Thalaivar lateA vandhaalum, unga maadhiri aatkalaala latestA varuvaaru.
Sureshs65 - nandri hai!
aanaa, intha GVM yaen NEPV patthi onnumey sollaama ipdi imsai paduthaaraaru ??
if by any remote chance, if he ends up dropping this - some of us might become 'thuravis'! no response from SONY, or GVM on their respective tweets, no announcements either!
but he is promptly announcing new projects!!
as it is, NEPV's shoot was 50% plus done when he even approached IR, right ?? plus, does this film need SFX like Viswaroopam ?? why so much time for post-production ? and even then, why this delay and silence abt the audio release ?
anticipation buildup kooda, appappa yedhavadhu release panna vendaam (however annoying they might be) ?!
For me Thippu sealed his place in Raja's studio with "idhu varai naan oru pazhaya manidhan" in konji pesalaam (anyone care to remember - including raaja's advisors on public speech and humility?) . true he has been given some pedestrian tunes and awkward situations by raaja - but that doesnt make him a bad singer. first of all ppl ought to come out of the "nostalgia" about chitra-spb-sj-mv-ps days. because raaja has moved on and many here need to move on - if it is to a different composer - it is OK - instead of "ennaathaa paadi ennaatha kaettu".Quote:
Originally Posted by Sureshs65
ungal edhirpaarppai solvadhil thavrondrum illai - aanaal thevai illaamal - raajavin "oyndhu ozindha Kaalam" idhu endru kudharkamaana sol prayogam seidhaal adharkku "erichchalaana" badhilayum neenga edhirpaarkka vendum. adharku mael enakku ungaLidam solvadharku edhuvum illai.Quote:
Originally Posted by mohanraja
i feel that quitting is never a solution. if this is the right decision, then raaja should have quit much before (like his advisors are telling now).Quote:
Originally Posted by kid-glove
irir123,
Heard from a person yesterday that the audio rights were sold for 1.8cr and that GVM has taken all the tunes Raja had composed (alternate tunes for same situation) saying that he wants to use all of them in the movie. He also said that a person known to him heard the full 'Saindhu Saindhu' and was pissed with GVM because the charanams are supposed to be terrific. I don't think this will be dropped. GVM being a good businessman will try to extract maximum mileage. My feeling is something is happening and we will probably get to hear about the music soon.
Jai,
Well said. Singers have changed now and no use saying 'Oh, SOB is missed' and all. Ofcourse there is none in the new gen who happen to have a stature or talent to maych SPB but as you said thing have moved along and so has Raja. The surprising part is that Raja seems to be more ready to move forward than us fans :) Whether it be the synth or the choice of singers.
Sureshs65 - you poured milk n honey in my tummy! danke, dhanyavadh, shukhriyaa!
aanaa namma aalu oru situationukku 10 tune podara aalaachhey!! eppadi GVM took all the tunes and gonna use them in the film ?? enakku therinju, 'saantha chakkubhai', 'aayiram thalai vangiya aboorva sigamani' - indha madhiri padangal had 30 plus songs and the movies had 3-4 intervals! and makkals found time to watch them in touring talkies!!
irir123.
:) I don't think Raja would have composed the full songs. Maybe only the pallavi lines would be used by him in the movie.
awesome..what is the going rate for movies..like GVM's ? Maybe the other tunes will be sold as ringtones :-(Quote:
Originally Posted by Sureshs65
~Video~ Maestro at Ramanashram Lucky are those who sang along with Sir!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shrrRXOnBxk
http://www.sriramanamaharshi.org/pho...images/015.JPG
http://www.sriramanamaharshi.org/pho...images/010.jpg
Btw, கூட்டத்தோட கூட்டமா தான் நிற்கிரார்! திரி தப்பிச்சுதுடா சாமீ :lol:
idhukku enna arththam?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sureshs65
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Originally Posted by jaiganes
Adhukku enna arththam enraal : Suresh has just copy-pasted the info written in some another forum :)
The real meaning was ( as I also follow the same "another forum" ) : that person felt why GVM did not release the full song as teaser ( when it has such a nice charanam ).