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njv, if ilayaraja would have been demotivated after listening to the stories in 1980's we probably wudnt have had any films in those era except from balachander, bharathiraja, rajini and kamal :)
if rahman would have been demotivated after listening to stories, we wouldnt have had kangalal kaithu sei, paarthale paravasam, kaathal virus etc.,
sanjeevi.......... we feel delighted to give u the "ulaga maga samalippu thilagam" pattam
agree. etho sanjeevikku konjam aaruthalaa irukkumaennu post panninaen, thappa nenchukaatheenga sir.Quote:
Originally Posted by rsubras
May be Yuvan gave the worst music to popcorn. (I did'nt see popcorn movie).Quote:
Originally Posted by rsubras
But you are claiming that paarthale paravasam having good BGM.
Rahman gave the worst BGM for that movie. i think he let down the movie. for that matter BABA also having worst BGM. Kumutham described the baba's BGM like "oruvelai yarum padathai rasichura porangannu, rahman BGM panniyirukkar". i seen kadhal virus little bit TV. that's BGM also not good. (I did'nt see KKS.)
but one good thing is KKS has the excellent songs.
Rahman gave extraordinary BGM for Manirathnam movies only.
for example Bombay,Roja. what a music!!!!!!!.
He played with hindustani in Bombay.
He also gave good BGM for shankar movies.
other than their (manirathnam, shankar) movies, if you drag rahman in to the BGM area, then You will fail. (I am considering TFM only.). after 2000 his BGM is not good.(For example alli arjuna, parthale paravasam, baba. i didn't see parasuram, udhaya). there are roumours like ARR will not score for BGM. his assistants will take care of BGM. because ARR is not interested in BGM. somewhere i read it in web. is it true?
IMHO,
rahman's BGM is very well suited with fast paced movies.
but his BGM is some what suitable for soulful movies. not that much great.
IR's BGM will suit for all type of movies.
but IR's BGM is very well suited with soulful movies.
(IRkku romba periya manasu. 80's vantha dabba padathukkellam porumaiya ukkarnthu BGM panniyirukkaru.)
Yuvan is improving in BGM area drastically in all type of movies.
i think Yuvan is having better BGM composing skills than songs composing skills.
vasanth, i was referring only to the songs..... BGM's i have no idea coz i have not seen any of these films..heard those were duds
and for majority of the films mentioned (Alli arjuna, Parasuram etc.,) the bgms were scored by sabesh murali or pravin mani
njv na appo rightnga than na :)Quote:
agree. etho sanjeevikku konjam aaruthalaa irukkumaennu post panninaen
i dunno who has quantified that BGM is the only parameter to judge a MD??? in IR's style - endha komban BGMa oru paramtera nirnaiyachidhu :lol:
i dunno i've always loved ARR's BGMs and agreed that his BGMs are not as gr8 as IRs but that doesen't make ARR a lesser MD than IR or YSR......if ARR is bad in BGM, then i can say IR was pathetic in recording quality.....his songs are sometimes inaudible......
so every MD is special in their own way, so to put down ARR on BGMs is not at all happening.....
Maddy,Quote:
Originally Posted by MADDY
If u consider Film music, then BGM is as important as songs.
BGM gives the life to the Movie. you take examples like Nayakan, muthal mariyathai,bombay, roja, kadhal kondaien, 7GRC. without BGM, that movies may look like the ordinary movies.
May be fans not realise the importance of BGM. but the major directors like manirathnam, bharathiraja known this.
if u consider album music, there is no BGM at all. so there is no need to discuss about BGM. but if u take as film composer then the BGM is also one of the main criteria.
then coming to recording quality, ya i accepted that rahman has the better recording quality than IR.
Yuvan is improving in that area also.same like rahman Yuvan also having good recording skills. you can see the difference between aranvidhan and recent pudhupettai,AIBI etc.
Maddy
dont you think the 'recording' is due to catch up of various technological advancements? IR probably was more concerned with his composition than to dwelve into recording. but if you see other recordings like his thiruvasagam they are pretty good, coz the work was somehow distributed or delegated properly.
Now there are better recording centers in Madras than it was when IR in his element, there was more the TAPE now there is the digital CD's,DOBLY,THX. My thinking is if he keeps composition and conducting to himself and elegates other technical details to other people, it would be much better
so i dont think IR's poor recording quality is detriment to his statute in TFM.
At sometimes i feel, just by having a superior recording quality has more noise at a higher decibel.
this is a YSR VS HJ VS ARR forum. so I will stay away from my opinions on IR, but still wanted to point out.
Which one out of 5000+ songs. In 70s & 80s you dont have digital audio. IR is the first one to introduce Stereo sound in TFM.Quote:
Originally Posted by MADDY
Moreover IR dont need huge technology to back him up since he is a natural music composer.
IR = R&D
Rest = T&E (Trial and Error)
My fav list of songs has now been 7G, Pattiyal, Arinthum Ariyamalum and Kanda Naal muthal..they are brilliant, and evoking so much of feel to each song.
sorry njv, if u wanna appeal to ppl. beyond musical circles then u need gud sound quality cos its got to be new sound and clear one........if this was the only way for gr8 composing then y is his own son not following his steps and following his rivals' trend??? the trend that he and his camp criticised verhemently......thanthaikku ethirana thanayan??? :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by njv
IR=R&D
rest = T&E
ARR= fusion of R&D and T&E......
MIL, IR had the option of opting for better technlogy cos during that time how pink floyd, Micheal Jackson and others had better sound quality and y ARR's quality is as gud as the Metallica's and boyzones now??? i believe that ARR always cared abt better end-product than IR, infact if YSR can blend his father's natural flair and rahman's techno feel the he can become to TFM wat federer is to tennis...