irir, no such info. uploading the pics, not so good qualityQuote:
Originally Posted by irir123
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Originally Posted by sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
Not only bad quality of CD cover ( like Attai petti )..
I just noticed this.
When I opened the CD files in real player, the album name is shown as "Yeto Vellipoyindi Manasu" and all songs are listed in Telugu. I bought NEPV CD , not YVM !!
If Sony can be like this..What can we say !
2mn hits for trailer, that features ennOdu vA vA karoke for almost one minute
Internet claims apart, is it really a hit in patti-thotti of TN?Quote:
இப்படத்தின் பாடல்கள் தற்போது தமிழ்நாட்டின் நகரம் முதல் பட்டி தொட்டியெங்கும் ஒலித்து மிகப்பெரிய வெற்றி அடைந்துள்ளது
Those currently living in TN to confirm...
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Originally Posted by sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
yenna oru mega level madathhanam idhu ??
why would Photon Kathas spend money hiring Hungarian orchestra, Angel and Abbey Road Studios, and NOT use their names on the CD sleeve ??
total nonsense - idha kondu poi, "this was recorded in angel studio and mastered at abbey road studios" nnu naan sonnaa, adhukku atthaatchi yenga ?
this is where the albums of ARR and others are heads and shoulders above anything that IR comes up with
even smalltime local bands carry the names of the recording studio(s) etc etc on their CD covers/sleeve notes !
ippadi arayum kurayumaa seiyyaradhukkaa, GVM took so much time to get SONY to release the CDs ? and dont they have the common sense to release the CDs internationally (after negotiating international pricing criteria etc etc) even in a limited no ? wudnt that help their overall profits/sales ?
idhaiyellaam namma madhiri fans sollithaan SONYkku theriyanumaa ? illa therinjey, casualaa vittutaangalaa ?
enakku salippu thaan varudhu
ippadiye vizhaa nadathhunga, ella former directorsum vandhu Raaja thudhi paadattum, aanaa, indha madhiri CD product information levela sodhappala pannittu, kunduchattikkullaye kudhiraya ottunga
veruppum erichhalum thaan varudhu
ippadi thaan andha varaadha Symphony matterum nadandhirukkum! no wonder, its embroiled in all kinds of controversies!
I understand the 'CD cover paathu naan appidiyE shOck aittEn' reaction for I too felt exactly the same way when I saw it first.
But 'collectors edition' la indha sodhappals ellaam seri pannIdalaam :wink:
"சமீபத்துல கூட மேகா ங்கற படத்துல பாடல்கள் எழுதி இருந்தேன். நான்கைந்து பல்லவி எழுதி கொடுத்தேன், முதல் பல்லவியே நல்லா இருந்ததுன்னு அத ஓகே பண்ணிட்டாரு. மீதி பல்லவியும் படிச்சாரு. அதையும் ஓகே பண்ணாரு…நான் சீக்கிரம் ஓகே பண்ண மாட்டேன். இது எல்லாமே நல்லா இருககு…இத இந்த படத்துல இல்லன்னாலும், வேற படத்துலயோ, இல்ல தனிப்பட்ட கவிதையாவே பயன்படுத்துங்கன்னு சொன்னாரு….அதெல்லாம் எனக்கு கிடைச்ச பாக்கியம்தான்…"
Megha......? A new movie with IR music it seems. Can someone throw some light on this? Sakala sir you must have got some info...
Pudikala mamu-ku enna koraichal. Different standards apply panraingalE.
Btw 70 year old :shock:
Telugu CD ver is worstu..can easily pass off as pirated mp3 cd :banghead:Quote:
Originally Posted by KV
Btw a whole lot of songs are all very respectful of lyrics, intimately tied to orchestration, both play off each other, as someone said, even rendition is part of the orchestration. How could one demarcate it.. As usual, rembavE vettaiyadi vilaiyadi rasichu irukkaaru IR..
(K) - vijayr comes from the MSV melody school. OraLavukku 80sla orchestrationukku ticket vAnguvAr. At some stage, he got influenced by his performer friends in US, being introduced to pure performers' (Read SPB) songs which have a lot of twists and turns in melody. Since then, he has been looking purely for tune elements and geting constantly disappointed - although it is purely bias if he is nt enchanted by the tune elements of kaNNil pArvai etc.
Plus, ingE in this page, IR bhaktas got into fights with him, but due to circumstances, certain other fans started worshipping him. apdiYE andha fansOda kula deivamA form AyittAr. Kevin Pietersen thannOda dressing room hostilitynAla opposing dressing room playersku friend Anadhu pOla. apdiyE dhisai mARiya paRavai....
Basically, it just shows how much human ego needs to be massaged. isaiyai vida, uNmaiyai vida, namma ego massage AgudhA - idhu dhAn perumbAlum makkal pAkkaRadhu
That is why I have lot of respect for Hard Core Music Composer Fans - whichever MD they are a fan of, there is a point of view there - even i fthey cannot articulate, there is a certain sensibility that they are fan of. Which is more respectable than music appreciation that comes out of the person's ego ("anti-IR fans worship me, so let me (unconsciously) become anti=iR", "I want to prove I am neutral and unbiased, so (unsonsciously) let me appreciate all music" etc)
BTW, you were right. Some part of the movie atleast seems to take place in the 80s. That is what Na.Muthukumar says. Also says that he why he choose words like 'maamu' because they were popular in the 80s.Quote:
Originally Posted by kid-glove
Waiting with bated breath !!
Just had a meeting with a musician couple - Texas's leading flutist and her well-known oboist husband - abt NEPV ! and gave them SONY Music's youtube link - they agreed to listen to the album ONLY after I assured them that the youtube link is officially sanctioned and released by SONY Music South ! to quote the lady "we dont want to steal someone's music" - now thats integrity for you!
anyway, they are (hopefully) listening to the album in their studio (part of their home) in their state-of-the-art music system
this couple btw, introduced me to Brahms, Led Zeppelin et al
and they totally loved 'Nandalala'!
this is what I told them "fans like me are of the opinion that the composer has ventured into new territory - It feels like a judicious blend of jazz, rock, and orchestral genres! yet, as amateurs, we are not able to get a handle on what it is - your taking time to listen to this album and giving it an honest, heartfelt opinion/review of the same would be much appreciated"
and i convinced them to the extent that towards the end of our conversation, they asked me for the iTUNES link to buy the album online
by tomorrow, hopefully, they will let me know of what they thought of NEPV !
still a long way to go
tomorrow, after work am going to a jazz concert featuring an experimental guitarist-percussionist, who has already heard the youtube samples and fascinated by the sound! and has invited me over
anyone from the hub living in Germany ?
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Originally Posted by Plum
You nailed it Plum! Thanks for articulating it so well. Especially the last sentence... I see nothing but a huge ego in their preachy posts. That holier than thou attitude is quite sickening.
Happened to listen to Kumki this morning on Thiraipaadal. (although the template is similar to Myna, this surely is a laudable effort by D.Imman).
The album has 10 tracks in all of which 3 are karaoke versions. Now, these instrumental tracks, apart from ‘getting rid’ of the vocals, also help in getting a good look at the quality of orchestration done by the composer. Now, this album’s on Sony too. It got me wondering on why they didn’t incorporate this idea in the NEPV album, which perhaps is the sort of soundtrack that, by nature of its style, ‘commands’ something like this. And not just this aspect, imagine pengal endraal karaoke - it has everything to become a sarakku session karaoke classic! Angst-ridden ‘youths’ will mostly wail their hearts out with this one! (think Dev D’s emotional athyachaar)
Just think of some of the options available at Sony’s/GVM’s disposal:
1) demo versions (with Raaja’s vocals, guitars and drums)
2) karaoke tracks
3) BGM/soundtrack (of course, post movie-release)
4) Collector’s edition (a sumptuous offering with all elements they can think of)
The album can very easily be a cash-cow if they really want it to be. The first release, apart from the good recording quality, offers little else to brag about. Whether they’re planning some extended milking or if they’ll simply waste the opportunity will be interesting to wait and see.
irir123,
Superb. I hope the musician couple gives you some nice feedback. As usual, if you need any help from here, like buying and sending CDs, will be more than happy to help
Thanks. Yes, it seems that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sureshs65
Also this might be a film more about memory of that period, GPM's fondness for the period might translate in to a love story. Don't expect a rigid time slot. Actually not a lot of us could demarcate the period from mid-80's to mid-90's easily, our memories seem clustered by Raaja's songs. Only in 90's, did we get the extended distribution of VHS tapes of 80's films. (here, I'm not referring to songs alone. Which of course were always accessible with tape cassettes. But the images together with songs slot in to our memory better). 80's IR infested School functions, cultural programs of 90's (90's does really seem a confused period, sandwiched between 80's and then 00's, even private channels didn't break out until late 90's, even in cities), the radio days (from street speakers, to Tea shops to Household). Raaja's the subconscious unifying phenomenon in many ways. Even if this section might be in 90's, it can't help but harp back to the warped 80's..
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Originally Posted by Plum
what say! Awesome Plum !
from the first listen itself i could understand that it was an 80/90s song... with the tune, arrangements and the choice of words... thats why i mentioned like its an Yethi Yethi kind of song from Raja while the fact is, Yethi Yethi by itself is a 80/90s Raja wannabe song from HJ(something like a oororamaa aatthuppakkam...)... one full cycle...Quote:
Originally Posted by kid-glove
Yethi Yethi was intentionally made to tribute IR by GVM + HJ. And as far as picturisation concerned it was for Kamal
i always saw agninatchathiram karthik in that..Quote:
Originally Posted by San_K
raaja... raajaadhi raajanengal raaja...
yes yes musicwise raaja raajathi raajan intha raaja was the inspiration and picturisation wise Aboorvasa sagathathargal kamal (raja kaiya vacha) and also sathya kamal was shown. karthik also.
NEPV Audio Launch telecast in Jaya TV 16th Sunday. Timings changed to 2.30PM. It was shown as 3.30PM till ysterday's Ads
Can't express better than this!. :notworthy:Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
Coming back to Saayndhu Saayndhu (I don't know how long I will come back like this :wink:), that electric guitar at the end of 1st interlude and how it leads into the charanam with that bounciness/jumpiness, ezhuthum bOthe pullarikkuthu. One of the best leads to the charanam ever. The charanam tune also starts in the same fashion as the guitar which makes the tune, delectable. Th guitar also makes inroads when during the first two lines of charanam, making it sweeter and sweeter. The rhythm pattern supporting this tune is another goosebump stuff. Yuvan's lazy singing fits the tune perfectly with great mood. Never thought Yuvan can sing this casually, yet bring the expected emotions and mood. Ramya's 'oho' in the second line, what a beauty there! I would even say that this should be Yuvan's best song. eppadi sir ithayellaam minutes'la conceive paNNaar. Indha paattu muzhuka avvalavum azhagu!. I still can't come out of this song. sokkuthE manam!
I have just registered with SONY Music an elaborate and sharp comment abt including recording studio names on the CD cover - and how it is important for the CD/album to gain credibility !Quote:
Originally Posted by Sureshs65
hopefully their second batch of CDs will have those details!
my question is, WHY GVM cud have been this careless ??
if i am not wrong, its the music directors who are responsible for the credits in the cds...Quote:
Originally Posted by irir123
or as a producer if u r saying gvm could have forced IR to put this in, then i agree... but he is not to be blamed is what i mean...
One of the so soothing rhythms ever :notworthy:Quote:
Originally Posted by V_S
Only one complaint from me about this song is, the very slow starting. Sometime i could enjoy but sometimes not. But it may be very good for the situation of this song. I can't remember any other song for this situation which is - a love couple inside the car, but the girl just told "I love you" to boy and outside raining. Probably the situation is the real key for IR. The only song so far for such situation?
It cannot get better than this for a louuu song. CannooooooooooQuote:
Originally Posted by San_K
irir, I couldn't locate a website for Sony India South. Only Social media(tw/fb/yt) Shouldn't they put a website which is linked with the main Sony Music Global's website?!? And list the albums they release in South?!? What kind of prefessionalism is this?!?
SKV - unprofessionalism is the hallmark of developing countries like India and China - we dont do anything in a streamlined/refined smooth manner - its not surprising therefore that many western companies are afraid/hesitant to do business here - the situation gets worser when it comes to the Indian film industry!
neither IR nor Kamal Hassan have their respective websites! the same logic is perhaps being followed by Sony Music South, which, by all means is a franchisee outlet/chain, run very similar to how Kamat and Saravana Bhavan hotels are run! the brand name is the same, but run by different managers independently! so its not surprising that the CD cover/inlay sheets are incorrectly put in Tamil for a Telugu release and vice-versa!
if you ask me, the entire blame should go to all of us - because we do NOT demand quality
1. we download movies/MP3s illegally
2. we host/upload media files illegally
3. we waste time, money, energy on putting up huge cutouts, and squabbling with fans of other celebrities, when the same time can be spent constructively educating ourselves on professional standards!
4. we simply dont respect/value copyright laws - reiterate that, read my posting abt how my musician friend couple insisted they buy the original ITUNES album of NEPV !!
5. oru sarakku party vechhaa, namma makkal kottamaa thirandu varuvanga - adhuvum OC sarakku! sondha kaasa pottu music kekkanumnu varumbodhu mattum namakku valikkum!
in this regard, am very happy to learn that Thiraipaadal.com is either going away, or to be banned - i heard it from someone
appadiyey aagattum - similarly, i would want to see illegalities banned in every other manner - that way we can ensure quality in the near future
there is nothing called a free lunch !
irir123,
Very good, I understand your concerns. It is a big slip by a company like Sony. They could have done it, no two thoughts about it. If they are doing sincerely for other soundtracks, they could have done for this too. But I could not understand how this is linked to people (consumers) mentality. Again, we cannot put the blame entirely on people and also cannot generalize US trend based on couple of people. I know so many here, who never bought any music/movies, all torrents download only. I cannot generalize all US people are like this, definitely they have better sense in this aspect. Just because we cannot showcase Maestro's credibility/capability to our neighbours, we cannot blame every one, my humble opinion.
On point #5, I strongly condemn and disagree, we don't have any right to say this, and I don't see this trait only in India.
More importantly, this is one South Indian film marketed, promoted only to our audience, not even up North. And we are explaining something to a person in US, who never care ever to listen to other music unless we tell them. They don't have any interest (except very few who practice music, not the average listener, reviewers) and don't go all the way to listen to any music outside their country. If we take in India, everyone (the person having least music interest) has much better music sense than anyone else in the world, not just the music within India, but open to listen to any music with open hands and heart. Most of our albums are meant for our audience, rather than world market and world audience. Yes I know this is a special album, but somehow Sony treated this as another album, not even cared to take a note of how it was composed, very shame on them.
While I appreciate your humongous effort in taking Maestro to the world, to be honest I expected the same not from a fan, from a person who worked closely with Maestro and who knows Maestro's working style and who have enjoyed his compositions when playing/conducting, which include those famous Lazlo kovacs, Attila, John Scott and so on. We keep praising them as they all have worked with Maestro. Maestro has worked with some biggest names, which other Indian composers have never worked. Do they not know what Maestro is capable of? What do they do? Do they really care? Did they take him to the next level? This is my biggest question. This is the reason for my previous post about the mentality of westeners in listening/promoting our music which has huge potential (I am not even talking to promote every one of them). I tend to think this way as it seems to me that, you pay money I will play for you and go back. When you ask me to come again, I will come.
IRIR,
You are calling for the banning of thiraipaadal. Well why do you even post youtube links then? I have seen you post the YT links of songs from abhinandana for one. Was that video uploaded by the producers of that film? Or did you pay to watch it? That is no different from listening to songs from thiraipaadal or downloding mp3s. I really don't know when will you stop accusing *Indians* when you are no better.
Can you stop this nonsense already? What has this got to do with anything??? And how is it an India only thing?Quote:
Originally Posted by irir123
It comes off as news to me that piracy doesn't exist outside India/Indians.
valid point Nerd - its my mistake and i take back that statement - its all out of a moment of frustrationQuote:
Originally Posted by Nerd
Yeah, try going to any damn apple store on Sep 21 when the iPhone 5 comes out. You ll see loads of people queuein' up to grab the phone. And you should listen to the noise when they finally open the door to the stores. And in US you ll see so many people supporting college sports for God's sakes. Sporting gear, body painting what not?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bala (Karthik)
Exactly. Try searching for torrents of new English/European music/movies too.Quote:
Originally Posted by kid-glove